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Minutes of Regular Council Meeting
Village of Arden Hills
Monday, January 31, 1982 - 7:30 p.m.
Village Hall
Call to Order
Pursuant to due call and,notice thereof, Mayor Woodburn called the
meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
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Roll Call
Present - Mayor Robert Woodburn, Councilmen Thomas Mulcahy,Michael
Christiansen, Diane McAllister, Dale Hicks.
Absent - None
Also Present - Engineer Donald Christoffersen, Treasurer Donald
Lamb, Clerk Administrator Charlotte McNiesh,
Deputy Clerk Dorothy Zehm.
Approval of Minutes
Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, that the Minutes of the Jan-
uary 11th Council meeting be approved as submitted. Motion carried
unanimously (5-0).
Business from the Floor
None
~~oposed Lexington Avenue Reconstruction to County Road G2
Wayne Leonard, Ramsey County Coordinating Engineer, displayed
plans for the proposed Lexington Avenue reconstruction from a
point approximately 700' north of County Road F to 200' - 300'
north of County Road G2, providing for two lanes northbound and
two lanes southbound with concrete medians for left turn lanes
at Control Data, Hwy. 96 and Shoreview Shopping Mall, where road
widens to 68' face to face, from 48' in width.
Leonard noted that a detached pathway is proposed on the esst side
to Victoria where it is proposed to croas to the west side north
to County Rd. G2; reported that Shoreview's pathway committee has
suggested that the path cross to the west side at County Road F
(at semaphore) instead of at Victoria; noted that this can be done,
if this is desired.
Leonard explained that the cities are responsible for acquiring
necessary construction and r.o.w. easement, 3/4 of curb and gut-
ter costs, storm drainage costs (anticipates this to be minimal);
estimated detached pathway cost at $34,000; $20,000 to be paid by
Ramsey County; balance by municipalities.
Leonard reported the following schedule in order to have the re-
construction under contract by July 1, 1983:
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-municipal public hearings in February
-plans to highway department in early March
-municipal approval by mid-April. at latest
-County approval in May and advertise for bids
-bid opening in June
Christoffersen noted that the drainage was studied when the Karth
Lake area was developed; noted that internal drainage was designed
to carry drainage from Lexington Ave.; referred to his letter of
1-27-83 re cost estimates by County of Arden Hill's share of the
project:
-curb and gutter
-bituminous walkway
-right-of-way and tempo-
rary construction easements
-drainage
Engineer's estimate of
-administration, engineering,
legal costs @ 15%
Total improvement costs
~34,500
7,700
10,000
5,000, plus
8,580
$65,780 ($66,000)
Minutes of Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1982
Page Two
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Questions and Comments:
1. Why 1s concrete curb and gutter necessary north of Hwy. 96
On west side?
Leonard explained that the cost of concrete curb and gutter vs.
cost of extended shoulder with bituminous curb is about the same;
concrete curb is better and more permanent and therefore cheaper.
It was noted that the cost of curb/gutter is paid 3/4 by the city,
with probably no cost for shoulder extension and drainage ditch.
2. What is height of proposed retaining walls and fencing?
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Leonard explained that in some areas the yards are low in compar-
,ison to the roadway and pathway; timber walls, with chain link
fence on top are propoaed as a barrier; noted that rock wall and
split rail fence could be substituted if desired. (About 3~'-5~')
3. Concern was expressed re proposed pathway crossing at Victoria
at point of poorest visibility; also of concern was the need for
a considerable amount of fill at pond area; to create pathway on
west side.
Leonard explained that the pathway was requested on the west side
for access to the park; also is considered preferable because of
existing adequate r.o.W. on the west and steep driveways on the
east side. Buckley said there is a real need for access to Cum-
mings Park from the northeast corner of Arden Hills.
4. It was queried whether the County will use its entire $20,000
pathway budget on this pathway.
Leonard said the entire amount will go into this project.
,5. Maintensnce of the pathway was queried.
Leonard said the pathways will be dedicated to the municipality
in which it is located, after which it will be the municipality's
responsibility to maintain,police, repair, replace etc. Leonard
noted that pathways are usually considered "seasonal", and are
not kept clean all year.
An~Holewa, 4480 Pleasant Drive, asked if the road is designed
for four lanes (two lanes each direction)?
Leonard said two lanes each way can be accommodated; can be oper-
ated and striped for one lane each way, with parking if desired-
County can control two or four lanes; when four lanes are needed,
will operate as a four lane road. Leonard said it is not the
County's intent to stripe with left turn lane in center, but it
can be done; noted this would not be appropriate from Victoria
south - balance can be striped as it is south of County Road E.
Jerry Meyer, 4414 Amble Circle, said he has a line of fir trees,
about 7' high, on, or within his property line. Leonard said
a construction easement would be requested; can make provisions to
transplant or replace trees or reimburse for trees; noted that if
County transplants or replaces trees, they are guaranteed for one
growing season beyond the time planted (e.g. Sept. '83 thru '84
growing seasons). Leonard explained that the specifications will
address the agreement (a joint acceptance arrangement).
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Meyer asked if County will repair fence if it is broken by County
plows. Leonard explained that the County will repair damage to
fence caused by plows.
Don McAdams, 4460 Pleasant Drive, asked if the proposed wall will
give the appearance of "Fort Apache". Leonard described the walls
to be of timber, smooth side to the residence (rock wall would
also be acceptable); noted that the cost difference is insignifi-
cant. Another alternative would be a sodded 3-1 slope between path
and residential property if desired; noted that options will be
worked out.
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January 31, 1982
Page Three
Mr. Perry Lippert, 4466 Pleasant Dr., asked about the completion
date, detours, torn up roads etc. Leonard explained that deep
cuts are not anticipated; therefore the inconveniences experienced
to the south are not expected. Leonard explained that from July
to October, driving will probably be on temporary surfaces; access
will be provided to all side streets between 3:30 p.m. and 9:00
a.m. (probably closed from 9:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.). Leonard said
it will be nOisy, dirty and inconvenient, but it only occurs once
in 40 years.
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The length of the wall was estimated to be about 600 feet (Amble
Drive to Pleasant Circle) as indicated. Leonard noted that an
alternative to the wall is to depress the path; wall is intended
to direct drainage to the street and to provide more privacy.
Leonard said the yards get some surface drainage now; proposed
wall should remedy this situation.
Holewa said he does not agree with the elevations shown south of
Pleasant Circle. Leonard agreed to meet with him on this matter,
and with other residents relative to their concerns. (Leonard
advised of meetings scheduled with residents at 2:00 p.m. on Wed.,
Feb. 2nd and on Saturday a.m. Feb. 5th).
Leonard Gallos, 1104 Amble Drive, asked about speed on Lexington
Ave. after the reconstruction. Leonard said no significant change
of apeed is anticipated; noted that immediately after completion,
there will be those who will test it for speed, but experience
has been that once the driver's attention is taken away from the
road, he will not drive as fast as he did when he was having to
fight with the road. Leonard explained that cities may request
speed changes if they feel it is warranted. /7, , ;/'
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Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, thatvt'ounc11" authoriz.he
City Engineer to prepare a feasibility report for the Lexi~ton
Ave. reconstruction project. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
(Council will decide on Public Hearing date at its February 14th
meeting).
County Rd. E Speed Limit - Status of Request for Reduced Speed
Leonard referred council to January 13th letter from MnDOT in re-
sponse to the County's request; noted that the State establishes
speed limits; usually recommend speed at 85% of speed traveled.
County is then authorized to post at that speed.
County TowinR Contract
Leonard reported that this matter is to be discussed at a Shore-
view meeting tonight; suggested this is an appropriate time to
direct concerns of Arden Hills to Engineer Weltzin and/or Commis-
sioner Orth.
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Recommendations re County Road E Bike Lanes
Council was referred to Nov. 5th letter from Ramsey County Public
Works recommending that the city construct a detached sidewalk.
Leonard explained that the road can be striped for travel lanes
and 10 foot wide shoulders, but it would not be signed as a bike
facility; noted that if the road is not posted "'No Parking" park-
ing is permitted on the roadway.
Costs
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t2~Dange striping to three lane option was estimated at
'~'(revise signals, remove existing stripes and restripe);
road would not be signed as a bike path.
Leonard recommended a detached facility, at an estimated $10,000
cost (north side of street); noted that north side has about 17'
wide r.o.w.; south has sufficient r.o.w., but grade problems.
Leonard said, because of the turns at Old Snelling and at the
bridge, does not recommend 10' on street shoulder for bikes and
pedes trians.
Mul cahy des cribed the s tre t ch 0 f road as "wi de and ugly"; s ugges t-
ed that the width be modified to better accommodate off street
bike ways.
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January 31, 1982
Page Four
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Leonard said he would like to discourage the City from on road
bike lane striping; feels the appropriate solution would be an
off street sidewalk/bike path; acknowledged that the 6400 A.D.T.
could be handled on a narrower road; noted that the present width
will eventually be needed for 8000 A.D.T. Leonard noted that City
can designate 10' wide shoulders, but people will drive on them.
Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, that Council authorize the
City Engineer to prepare the necessary documentation for City'a
application to MnlDOT for bikeway funding for a detached bikeway
along County Road E, between Old Hwy. 10 and Highway 51. Motion
carried unanimously (5-0).
(Leonard noted that MnlDOT standards for bikeways are 8' in width).
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Petition for Street Lighting - Karth Lake Area
Jean Bey, 1157 Amble Drive, presented a petition to Council, which
she read aloud, requesting City paid street lighting for the east
portion of Karth Lake Estates; noted that the petition has been
signed by 50 families. Mrs. Bey said their area is extremely dark,
area consists of about 80.homes; explained that the request is for
ornamental 15' high decorative lighting. Bey stated that one or
two residents expressed a desire for lights but do not want to pay
for them.
McAllister referred the petitioners to Resolution 79-52 which
establishes the street lighting policy for Arden Hills; noted that
street lighting may be provided only if certain criteria are met.
Sue Knudson, 1130 Pleasant Circle, said she feels the area does
have some hazardous intersections which have "unusual visual
vehicular problems".
The cost of the proposed lights and how to pay for them was dis-
cussed. It was noted that the lights will be installed by NSP
at no charge; cost of energy ($13.00/mo./light) will only be bill-
ed to the City by N.S.P.; how to spread these charges to the
residents was of concern.
After discussion, Council concurred that it has no objection to
street lighting being installed and paid for by residents; re-
ferred the matter to the Karth Lake area residents to determine
how energy costs are to be billed and paid and to present a pro-
posed plan for the light installations. It was the general con-
census of Council that general City funds will not be available
for the street lights.
(It was noted that N.S.P. will assist the residents relative to
appropriate placement of the lights).
REPORT OF VILLAGE ENGINEER DONALD CHRISTOFFERSEN
Request to Extend Municipal Sanitary Sewer to 1315 Red Fox Road -
Jeffrey Nielsen .
Jeffrey Nielsen, President of J.L.N.Development Corporation and
Attorney Jerry Nowlin, were present relative to J.L.N. Development
Corporation's request that Council study the feasibility to ex-
tend sanitary sewer to 1315 Red Fox Rd., the site of the proposed
J.L.N. Development office/warehouse. Nielsen explained that the
existing house on the site has a septic system.
It was noted that J.L.N. Development is fee owner of the property;
property does not represent 35% of benefitted property owners;
therefore the il_ "'Ill. . " must be ~1';l8_" by the Council.
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George Reiling, owner of parcel to the east of J.L.N. Development site,
explained that his property is already served with sanitary sewer
by a north/south main; therefore his property would not be bene-
fitted. Reiling said that if he should want to use the proposed
sewer extension in the future he will pay a just compensation.
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January 31, 1982
Page Five
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Christoffersen indicated the location of the existing sanitary
sewer lines; noted that an extension from the existing north/
south line is approximately 1050' from the center line of the
J.L.N. property. Christoffersen noted that because of the depth
of the existing sewer, a pumping station may be needed to serve
the J.L.N. site.
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Christoffersen explained that the properties on the south side of
Red Fox Road are all served with sanitary sewer. Reiling referred
Council to a sketch of how he proposes to develop his property,
which he said can be served by the existing north/south line;
therefore, he does not need the proposed extension of the line on
Red Fox Road.
Nielsen explained that the purpose of the feasibility study we are
requesting'is to see how we can be served with sanitary sewer;
property has been assessed for sewer, water and storm drainage; we
are not asking people to pay for it if they are not benefitted.
Woodburn noted that this is an unusual situation; estimated cost
is $40,000.
Christoffersen explained that the north/south line was originally
installed to serve Control Data Corporation (north of 1-694);
noted that laterals were installed at later dates; said the north/
south line does not appear to be deep enough to serve the JLN
site by gravity feed only.
Reiling said he will agree to an easement on his property; will
agree to a future assessment if he should need to connect to the
line in the future. Reiling noted that the previous owner of the
J.L.N. site didn't want the sewer extended to his property.
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After discussion, Hicks moved, seconded by Mulcah~ C<>uncil..t
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authori~he City Engineer to prepare a feasibility study to
extend saHitary sewer to 1315 Red Fox Rd. and to report Bond
Counsel Popovich's alternatives for financing the project. Motion
carried (Hicks, Mulcahy, Christiansen, Woodburn voting in favor
of the motion; McAllister voting in opposition). (4-1)
(Christoffersen estimated cost of feasibility study at $200-$300
plus Bond Counsel costs).
Briarknoll Second Addition - Acceptance of Streets and Reduction
of Performanace Bond
Council was referred to Christoffersen's letter of 1-18-83.
McAllister moved, seconded by Hicks, that Council accept the
streets in Briarknoll Second Addition, except Norma Avenue south
of Dawn Circle, and authorize reduction of the performance bond
from $62,900 to $10,000. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
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Grey Fox Road Improvement - Accept Improvement and Approve Final
Payment
Couucil was referred to Christoffersen's letter of 1-19-83 re
Grey Fox Road Improvement 81-1.
Christiansen moved, seconded by Mulcahy, that Council accept Grey
Fox Road Improvement 81-1 and approve the final payment in the
amount of $100.00. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
Mn/DOT Agency Agreement - Federal Aid Urb~n Streets
Council was referred to Christoffersen's letter of 1-18-83 re
Mu/DOT Agency Agreement.
After discussion, Mulcahy moved, seconded by Hicks, that Council
delay execution of the Agreement until such time as need arises.
Motion carried (Mulcahy, Christiansen, Hicks voting in favor of
themotion; Woodburn and McAllister voting in opposition). (3-2).
It was noted that Arden Hills does not have any designated Federal
Aid Urban roadways at the present time.
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January 31, 1982
Page Six
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Report on Metro Council Hearing - New Brighton Interceptor
Christoffersen reported that the amendments to the plan are under
consideration; final decision On the New Brighton interceptor
should be known On March 9th.
Vaughan Park Easement - Motorola Tower Site
Council was referred to Christoffersen's amended map of the
Vaughan Park Easement which was drawn in accordance with certi-
fied survey. Christoffersen noted that as drawn, park is about
.04 acres short of the 10% dedication.
Council concurred to accept the park easement (Motorola Tower
site) as per amended drawing.
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REPORT OF VILLAGE TREASURER DONALD LAMB
Investments
1-17-83 - $100,000 at First Federal for 6 mos.
@ 8.50% interest, maturing 7-18-83.
1-17-83 - $206,635.42 at Twin City City Federal for 3 mos.
@ 8.10%, maturing 4-18-83.
1-21-83 - $1,202,902.63 at First Federal for 6 mos.
@ 8.85%, maturing 7-25-83.
Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, that Council ratify the Trea-
surer's report. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
Ordinance Interpretation re Amusement Devices at Colleges
Council was referred to Zehm's memo of 1-21-83
After discussion, Council concurred that the amusement devices are
intended to serve students and are not open to ~public~ use;there-
fore, an arcade license is not required, but the individual amuse-
ment devices license shall be requ~r,d.
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Attorney's Opinion ~ Social Gambling
Council was referred to Lynden's letter of 1-17-83 re Opinion Re-
garding Social Gambling, and to letter from Flaherty's requesting
a determination on whether the type of gambling described is allow-
able by law, or not.
After discussion, Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, that Council
concurs that the activity described constitutes ~a bet~ as defined
in Section 609.75, subd. 2, therefore, is not allowable by law.
Motion carried (Hicks, McAllister, Woodburn, Christiansen voting
in favor of the motion; Mulcahy voting in opposition). (4-1).
Report on Finance Committee and Fire Board Meetings - Councilman
Christiansen
Christiansen reported that Shoreview feels there is a need for an
additional fire station to serve the north; are concerned that an
additional station will be needed soon; want to select a site
while land is still available. Christiansen reported that he sug- ...
gested a site close to Lexington Ave.' for secondary access to the
south.
Christiansen reported that an additional bay is also proposed for
Station #1, snd reported that a new pumper truck has been pur-
chased. It was noted that the additional station costs are appar-
ently costs to cities, over the Fire Contract.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mulcahy reported he will not be able to attend the February Human
Rights Commission and Parks meetings.
-Hicks will attend the Parks meeting
-Woodburn will attend Human Rights Commission meeting
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Janusry 31, 1982
Page Seven
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Christiansen reported that the Finance Committee is working on
projection on investments for 1983 budgeted @ 11%; may re-eval-
uate at 9% rate. Christiansen reported that the I Ii< I Finance
committee is looking for some direction from Council. In discus-
sion, it was noted that Council is waiting to see how Roseville's
experimental project works out; Council is looking for "seed
money" to conduct a similsr project, if feasible, possibly in
next year's budget.
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McAllister noted that Pilgrim House is apparently permitting meet-
in~of various organizations at its facility in Arden Hills; sug-
gested they be notified that these meetings are in violation of
their special sanitary sewer connection deferral.
Council concurred that Pilgrim House be advised of this violation.
McAllister reported that the Cable TV Citizen Advisory Committee
would like to know its goals; noted that the next meeting is
scheduled February 10th at 7:30. In discussion it was suggested
that it will be necessary for the Committee to first obtain the
time structure Arden Hills will have, and then fill the schedule
in the best interest of the City.
McAllister reported the Committee has scheduled the second Thurs-
day of each month for its regular meetings.
Hicks reported that he is on the YSB finance committee which is
currently determining the portion of the budget to be funded by
the cities; will be meeting with Chris Clausen relstive to Arden
Hills' participation. (Youth Service Bureau).
Woodburn referred Council to correspondence from Lynden (1-17-83)
re manufactured housing. Council concurred that a copy of the
letter be forwarded to Planning Commision Chairman Winiecki, sug-
gesting that the matter be deferred pending apparent further leg-
islation.
REPORT OF CLERK ADMINISTRATOR CHARLOTTE MC NIE~H
1982 Interest Rate on Temporsry Transfers
Council was referred to McNiesh's memo of 1-13-83.
Christiansen moved, seconded by McAllister that 11.4% be used to
calculate interest on temporary transfers and on the balance due
to Allied Painting. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
1982 Revised Use of Federal Revenue Sharin~ Monies
Council was referred to McNiesh's memo of 1-27-83.
Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, that Council schedule the
first hearing On the 1982 Revised Use of Federal Revenue Sharing
Monies at 8:30 p.m. on February 28th, as listed in memo. Motion
carried unanimously (5-0).
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Claims and Payroll
Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, ~hat Council approve the
Claims and Payroll as submitted. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
School Bus Parking
McNiesh reported that school buses are now lining up on County Rd.
&2 in the afternoons; Sheriff Deputy reports this does not seem to
create any traffic hazards or problems. McNiesh was requested to
check on the morning line up as well, which has apparently been a
problem on Old Highway 10.
Adiournment
Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, that the meeting adjourn at
12:40 a.m. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
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Charlotte McNiesh
Clerk Administrator
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Ro ert L. Woodburn
Mayor
Notice of Meeting - The next Regular Council Meeting will be held on
Monday, Feb. 14, 1983 at 7:30 p.m. at the Village Hall.
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