HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-07-24 JDAJoint Development Authority
Monday, October 7, 2024
Arden Hills City Council Chambers
Minutes
5:30 pm
Roll Call
Joint Development Authority: Chair Jon Wicklund, Commissioner Nicole Frethem,
Commissioner Victoria Reinhardt, Commissioner Tom Fabel, Commissioner Tena Monson
Also present: Jessica Jagoe (Arden Hills); Ella Mitchell (Ramsey County)
Roll call taken.
Approval of Agenda
Motion by Commissioner Fabel seconded by Commissioner Frethem to approve the agenda as
presented. Motion carried.
Approval of Minutes
Motion by Commissioner Fabel seconded by Commissioner Monson to approve the August 5,
2024 JDA meeting minutes and September 10, 2024 JDA worksession meeting minutes as
presented. Motion carried.
Public Input
None.
Consent Agenda
None.
Old Business
None.
Public Hearings
None.
New Business
a. Update on Communications
Larina DeWalt stated Goff Public has been working with Ramsey County to develop content for
a fall 2024 newsletter to be sent via email to the Rice Creek Commons subscriber list in
October. The newsletter will share updates on several topics including infrastructure, as well as
green energy and sustainability. Goff Public has also been discussing communications
opportunities with County staff to prepare for future development updates. There have been
no recent media inquiries, and no media coverage has run since the July update. There have
been no recent inquiries through the Rice Creek Commons microsite contact portal.
Commissioner Fabel questioned if any communications have been initiated with the US Army
regarding Building 116. He stated this building had to be demolished as it was an eyesore. Ms.
DeWalt reported this building houses the TGRS that was used by the Army. He indicated this
building was on property owned by Ramsey County and reported there have been discussions
about the movement of this building.
Commissioner Reinhardt commented further discussion will occur regarding this building,
especially given the geothermal and solar potentials on this property. She explained this
building was not just an eyesore, but rather was necessary for the Army and their water
treatment facility.
Commissioner Frethem indicated Building 116 was brought to Senator Klobuchar’s attention
and the Biden administration. She asked if Goff did any press release regarding the LEED
certification direction. She stated she did not want the green efforts to be lost in the agreement
negotiations. Ms. Mitchell reported she had not done anything to date, but noted the County
was working with Goff on an overall green initiative release and this should be completed in
November.
Commissioner Frethem requested a separate press release be created to address the green
initiatives being pursued for Rice Creek Commons. She believed it was important to maintain
the momentum that had been achieved in this area. Ms. Mitchell reported the LEED for
Communities would be the focus for the upcoming newsletter.
b. Green Energy Presentation
Ms. Mitchell stated Ever-Green Energy has analyzed the Rice Creek Commons development
plan to understand the energy needs of the site and options for renewable energy sources to
meet those needs, in alignment with the JDA Green Energy Vision. Their presentation outlines
potential thermal energy solutions for the development.
Ryan Johnson, Ever-Green Energy, introduced himself to the JDA and provided the group with a
presentation on the potential thermal energy solutions that were being considered for Rice
Creek Commons. He reviewed the green energy strategies in further detail noting this included
fulfilling the green energy vision on both the demand and supply side, pursuing LEED for
Communities, demand side strategies to reduce energy needs, and supply side strategies that
would create carbon free energy. He commented on the energy efficiency strategies that would
be pursued for buildings. Potential thermal energy solution and decentralized electric options
and costs were discussed with the JDA.
Commissioner Monson reported the hope would be to have community-wide geothermal
available throughout Rice Creek Commons.
Mr. Johnson reviewed the 30 year life cycle cost analysis for the different scenarios. He
explained it was feasible to have an all-electric, carbon free heating and cooling within Rice
Creek Commons. He reported a community district energy system would allow the use of
heating and cooling equipment that was familiar to developers, require less in-building
equipment, share heating and cooling energy between buildings, improve efficiency, enable
higher equipment efficiencies, eliminate cold weather equipment packages, eliminate air
source condenser units while freeing up roof space for solar.
Mr. Johnson explained the next steps were for the JDA to consider adopting a policy for a
carbon free site. Staff and consultants will then coordinate with developers to incorporate in-
building costs into life cycle cost analysis. He stated EAC, staff and consultants will discuss
sustainability design guidelines with developers. The JDA will determine the preferred
organizational structure and financing strategy if pursuing a community district energy system.
He noted a LEED for Communities kickoff meeting would be hosted by the EAC.
Commissioner Reinhardt commented the Xcel Energy grid was excepted to be carbon free by
2040. She indicated this was 16 years from now. She supported this group making smart
decisions in order to be a part of this change because this was an opportunity like no other. She
commented on how a geothermal solution would be an economical solution over the years. She
believed this was exciting and doable, and she looked forward to seeing what decisions were
made by the JDA.
Commissioner Fabel questioned if being carbon free would mean all power would be created by
solar and wind. Mr. Johnson explained this could be achieved through solar and renewable
energy (wind).
Commissioner Fabel inquired if any portion of the community system would be utilized by the
residential homes. Mr. Johnson reported the full scenario would have the distribution water
loop through the residential neighborhoods.
Commissioner Frethem asked who would be paying the capital costs for the community system.
Michael Ahern from Ever-Green Energy explained there were a number of scenarios that will be
discussed with Alatus. He indicated options will be laid out to the JDA and developer for further
consideration.
Commissioner Frethem stated there would need to be negotiations between public entities and
the developer on who pays the capital costs. Mr. Ahern reported this was the case, noting there
was value to having this type of system in place to the entire development.
Commissioner Frethem commented between scenarios 1 and 2, what does that do to the cost
for single family homes that are part of the district wide energy. She questioned if prices would
rise for the homes if included in the energy system. Mr. Johnson stated this could have an
impact on home prices.
Commissioner Frethem discussed how homeowners may pay more up front for their home, but
over time, the thermal costs would go down because of the energy system that was in place.
Mr. Johnson commented on how the tepid water loop would have a meter along with a meter
for the home itself.
Commissioner Frethem looked forward to learning more after discussions are held with the
developer. She indicated she did not want the energy solutions to make the residential homes
cost prohibitive.
Commissioner Monson commented on the energy discussions that have been held to date by
the EAC. She explained the EAC was trying to remove natural gas for cooling and heating. She
stated if the development were to be entirely electric people would still have to heat and cool
their homes. She anticipated a geothermal system would be a better option than the electrical
resistance system. She explained she would like to see a comparison between all of the costs in
order to properly inform decision makers. She reported Xcel Energy has an RFP for a
geothermal or community district system that was 500 tons. She noted this would be a $10
million geothermal investment and would be a good opportunity for this project.
Commissioner Monson requested further information on the geothermal that was pursued for
The Heights development. Mr. Ahern provided further information on the geothermal system
that was installed in The Heights development. He discussed how the capital costs for the
system had been paid by a third party that would own and operate the system.
Commissioner Monson stated she looked forward to hearing how the conversations go with the
developer.
Chair Wicklund questioned if this was one of the largest projects Ever-Green has worked on.
Mr. Ahern stated this project was on the smaller side in comparison to other projects he has
worked on.
Chair Wicklund asked how long Ever-Green has been working on projects of this type. Mr.
Ahern reported he has been working on projects of this type for the past 10 years.
Chair Wicklund inquired how many systems Ever-Green has installed in the past 10 years. Mr.
Ahern estimated he has developed 10 systems in the past 10 years.
Chair Wicklund questioned what the increase cost would be to go entirely electric for a
residential home. Mr. Johnson estimated there would be 10% cost increase just for the
mechanical equipment.
Commissioner Reinhardt stated there would be an increased cost for the equipment, but noted
there would also be a quick payback for the investment.
Ms. Mitchell reported she would be bringing an action back for the JDA to consider at the
November meeting after holding conversations with the developer.
c. Update on Development Agreement Discussions
Ms. Mitchell provided the JDA with an update on the development agreement discussions. She
noted conversations continue surrounding the purchase and sale agreement between Alatus
and Ramsey County on the California parcel of Rice Creek Commons. She explained the last
conversation was held on Thursday, October 3 and she expects to continue discussions over the
coming weeks.
d. Review Road Map
Ms. Mitchell reviewed the Road Map with the JDA.
Commissioner Frethem requested staff reassess the proposed dates for community
engagement.
Chair Wicklund commented on the proposed JDA budget for 2025 and asked if this would be
discussed in November to be approved in December. Ms. Mitchell reported this would be the
case.
Administrative Director’s Report
Ms. Mitchell had no further comments.
Development Director’s Report
Director Jagoe explained there would be a special City Council workshop on Tuesday, October
15 at 5:30 p.m. to discuss Rice Creek Commons.
Commissioner Updates
Commissioner Monson if that staff find dates and include Building 116 in the Road Map.
Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 6:47 pm.
Approved _____________________________________ _______________________
Jon Wicklund, Chair Date
12/2/24