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MINUTES OF REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING
Village of Arden Hills
Monday, November 25, 1985, 7:30 p.m.
Village Hall
Call to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Woodburn called the meeting to
order at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Call
Present: Mayor Robert Woodburn, Councilmembers Thomas Sather, Gary Peck,
Nancy Hansen, Dale Hicks
Absent: None
Also Present: Engineers Donald Christoffersen and Wilbur Liebenow, Treasurer
Donald Lamb, Steve Mattson (Juran and Moody), Public Works
Supervisor Robert Raddatz, Clerk Administrator Charlotte McNiesh,
. Deputy Clerk Dorothy Zehm
Approval of Minutes
Sather moved, seconded by Peck, that the minutes of the November 12 Council
meeting be approved as amended. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Business from the Floor
None
REPORT OF VILLAGE ENGINEER DONALD CHRISTOFFERSEN
Water Tower Needs Report
Christoffersen introduced Engineer Liebenow (SEH) who is familiar with the Arden
Hills and Roseville water systems; noted that Norm Hendrickson (SEH - now
retired) prepared the 1984 report based on 1983 Arden Hills and Roseville records.
Council was referred to Christoffersen's letter of 11/22/85, and Liebenow
reported their findings, after review of 1984 and 1985 records from Arden
Hills and Roseville, compared with the previous report. Liebenow explained
that they compared peak days, August 6, 1983 to July 16, 1985, finding that
the total amount pumped on 7/16/85 exc"eded the peak day in 1984 or 1983;
reported that if Roseville should experience a complete power failure, its
tank would be empty in 1-1/2 hours and the Arden Hills tank would be empty
8 hours, 20 minutes later.
Liebenow noted that Roseville pumped 13,095,000 gallons to Arden Hills and
Roseville on 7/16/85; Arden Hills' use that day was 1,990,000 and Roseville's
tank reached a minimum volume at about 5:00 p.m. 0,217,000) . Liebenow noted
from this comparison that the time it takes to empty the Arden Hills' tank
has been reduced by 3 hours, 10 minutes from August 1983 to July 1985.
In discussion of whether a 1 million or 1-1/2 million gallon tank is recom-
mended, it was noted that this is a judgement call which is based on water
demand and water usage experience. Christoffersen said bids can be taken
on both tank sizes; noted that a 1 million gallon tank is considered the
minimum; recommends the 1-1/2 million gallon tank if it can be secured at
a reasonable cost; noted the determination of size is not an "exact science";
guidelines are based on averages, lawn sprinkler potential, usage experience,
potential development.
It was noted that the hourly consumption in Arden Hills on July 16, 1985
was about 40,000 per hour; a 1-1/2 million tank would provide the City with
. about 18-24 hours of stored water.
Woodburn noted that, at present, if a worse situation occurs, Arden Hills
would be in an emergency situation in 7 to 7-1/2 hours.
Hansen asked the feasibility of an emergency connection to an adjacent water
supply. Liebenow said this has been done by other communities; said the
adjacent community would have to be able to provide the water and Arden Hills
able to receive it; noted that Shoreview does not have a lot of heavy water
users across from our Lexington Ave. industrial area; consequently, probably
does not have large mains. Arden Hills could feasibly have an emergency
connection a block or so west of Lexington and obtain 3,000 - 4,000 g.p.m.
at a given point.
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Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, November 25, 1985
Page two
Christoffersen said a cross-connection may require approval of the State Board
of Health: said he does not know the pipe capacity in Shoreview - Arden Hills
,has 12" pipe along Lexington south of 1-694 and 16" through center of indus-
trial area.
Peck asked if the cost estimates given are realistic. Christoffersen said
he believes they are "in the ballpark".
Hansen said she feels we need water to fight fires; asked if another tower
will lower our classification and result in reduced ~n~urance rates. Liebenow
explained that the fire classification is one factor used by insurance com-
panies when analyzing individual businesses for risk.
Council was referred to the recommendations of the Public Works Committee
(minutes of 11/20/85), suggesting another opinion, in addition to that of .
SEH; recommending that Council move rapidly but cautiously to ensure ade-
quate water supply.
Hicks said he is not opposed to another opinion; feels Arden Hills needs
a tower; seems the decision for Council is a matter of size.
Liebenow said the critical months are June, July and August, which are only
critical if we have dry periods; noted that there are usually 2, 3 or 4 days
of extreme situation. Water storage should be designed for the peak days,
plus the possibility of fire.
Hansen noted that Arden Hills has the potential of adding the following to
its water system:
- 500+ residences currently on private wells,
- 300 mobile homes,
- large Church complex,
- several industrial developments,
- an apartment/townhouse development,
feels Council needs to think positively about a water tower adequate in size
to serve these developments.
Tom Mulcahy, former Councilmember, offered his observations; noted that Arden
Hills has been careful about the tax dollar; suggested that Council obtain
an assessment of needs and then determine the financing of these needs; said
he is not convinced we need a water tower; feels the needs are over-stated;
feels an up-to-date comprehensive study should be made; feels it prudent
to get a second opinion.
Mulcahy said the feasibility of a permanent pipe connection to the Shoreview
system should be investigated.
In discussion relative to how to proceed, it was noted that the data received
by Council is reaffirming the need for additional water storage, and Council
will have to find the financing for this need. Some of the matters to be
resolved were:
- Are there piping problems from Shoreview to Arden Hills for an emergency
connection?
- Will such a connection be approved by the State Board of Health?
- How large a tank do we want?
- If another opinion is requested, how soon can it be obtained? (takes
one year to build a tower).
- What is the time line? .
Liebenow and Christoffersen outlined the following time schedule:
- Feasibility Study - November, 1985
- Public Hearing (if cost assessed) - January, 1986
- Order Plans and Specifications - February, 1986
- Award Contract - May, 1986
- Construct April to November, 1986
- Paint - Spring 1987
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Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, November 25, 1985
Page three
After a poll of the Council, it was the general consensus that a second opinion
would result in the same need - a water tower. Peck said he'd like a feasi-
bility report prepared and the options reviewed, and the need identified.
Lamb suggested the possibility of an alarm, notifying high water users to
restrict their water usage during an emergency. Sather said he'd like to
get a second opinion on the tower need; would like the feasibility of obtaining
water from another community investigated; feels this is the quickest way
to resolve the problem. Hansen said she'd like a feasibility study prepared,
including optional 1 and 1-1/2 million gallon tower and covering the other
options. Hicks said he'd also like a feasibility report; feels Arden Hills
should be relatively independent for its water needs; noted that peak times
in Arden Hills will also be peak times in our surrounding communities; feels
relying on a cross-connection is not in the City's best interest.
. Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, that Council authorize SEH to prepare a
feasibility report for a 1 or 1-1/2 gallon water tower; feasibility to include
emergency connection with Shoreview and/or New Brighton and a time schedule.
Motion carried (Hicks, Hansen, Peck, Woodburn voting in favor; Sather voting
in opposition). (4-1)
(Anticipate report at last meeting in January.)
Advance Refundin~ Bonds
Council was referred to Treasurer Lamb's memo re Savings Concept (11/22/85)
and to letter from Steve Mattson, Juran and Moody, Inc.(11/22/85) re $2,200,000
General Obligation Advance Refunding Bonds of 1985 City of Arden Hills,
Minnesota.
Mattson referred Council to the updated transaction summary (11/22/85) noting
that the average coupon rate dropped to 6.455%; explained that the interest
rate fluctuates and the transaction will be based on the situation on the
day of sale, presently scheduled for December 3.
Ted Brownell (Juran and Moody computer specialist) noted that at 6.45% interest,
the net savings to the City would be $38,000 (about 1!% decrease in interest).
There would be additional savings since there will be no paying agent fees
for the old or new issues.
Mattson said the final computer runs on the day of sale will be available
to Council; stated that the City will then know "to the penny" exactly what
the savings are and when they'll occur.
Mattson explained that Council can make its decision on December 3. with
no out-of-pocket costs to the City.
Public Safety Committee Recommendations
Council was referred to Public Safety Committee minutes of 11/18/85.
Petition for Street Li~ht on"Arden View Court
Hansen reported that the Public Safety Committee recommends Council approval
of a street light for this area, with the cost of power billed to the
Homeowner's Association.
Public Safety Committee Chairman Timm stated that there are 162 homes in
this area; estimated about 1,000 cars/day travel this road which is curved
and very dark; stated it is a hazardous curve (public street and driveway
intersection) .
. Bill Krummel, resident of the area, said the curve and intersection is
worse at night; curve is hazardous even in daylight.
In discussion.. it was stated that the rest of the street is well lighted
with association lights.
Krummel reported that the matter was brought up at a board meeting; stated ,
the Homeowner's ,Association is willing to be billed for the energy for the
light.
Hicks moved, seconded by Sather, that Council authorize the installation
of the light at the location designated on the map submitted, with cost
of energy billed to the Homeowner's Association quarterly. Motion carried
unanimously. (5-0)
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(Clerk's Note: Business Manager Fran Oberreit requested that installation
of the light be held in abeyance since the Homeowner's Association has not
reviewed or approved same.)
Improvement No. 85-3, Hamline Avenue, Phase II
Hansen reported that the Public Safety Committee reviewed the street im-
provement plans; felt there is a need to consider a semaphore at Hamline
and STH 96.
It was suggested that perhaps the wiring for the semaphores could be
installed as part of the street improvement.
Public Works Committee Meetin~
Council was referred to minutes of Public Works Committee meeting (11/20/85). .
Villa~e Leaf Pickup Service
Sather reported that the Committee's feeling is that the City not get into
leaf pickup; deferred its final recommendation to Council pending receipt
of Raddatz' report.
Woodburn read aloud the problems that Roseville has encountered with its
program:
1. Cost is prohibitive.
2. Schedule pick-up times in various neighborhoods so leaves are ready
at curb-side - often find that the leaves have been scattered before
they arrive for the pick-up.
3. Unpredictable weather - often find leaves frozen or under snow and
ice before pick-up.
4. Expensive equipment maintenance.
Water Tower
Sather reported the following Public Works Committee concerns:
1. Feel the present tower is inadequate if we have a very dry summer;
want a careful study to assure adequate storage capacity for future
years, and that the tower is located in the right place.
2. Want Council to explore the possibility of an emergency hook-up to
the Shoreview water system.
3. Suggested Council obtain another opinLon in addition to the SEH recom-
mendation.
Impr. No. 85-3, Hamline Avenue, Phase II
Sather reported the following Committee concerns, suggesting that:
1. If possible, all existing utility lines be moved from under the street
surface to the boulevard area (gas, electric, cable) .
2. All probable sewer and water stubs be installed before the road con-
struction is completed.
3. Snow storage may be difficult in the narrow boulevard; noted that the
sidewalk will be snow-covered as a result.
Combined Public Works/Public Safety Committees
Sather reported that the interface between the two committees was not clearly
understood. Concern was expressed relative to length of meetings - feel
one to two hours monthly is reasonable. Sather reported the Public Works
Committee members voiced no objections to a combined committee.
Jerry Timm, Public Safety Committee Chairman, said Public Safety members
expressed some adverse criticism; stated he personally feels a more active .
Public Safety Committee is needed; feels a combined committee would be a
ItGod-send".
. Council concurred that a letter be sent to both committees asking for member
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comment re a combined committee and their reasons.
Resolution No. 85-60, License/Permit Fees - Effective 1/1/86
Hansen said she has received comments that the proposed $50 retail sales license
is too great an increase (currently $30). $40 was suggested as a compromise.
In discussion, it was noted that the general concensus of Council, at previous
discussions of the proposed fees, was that the veterinarian license and pri-
vate gas pump license be deleted, that the hotel/motel fee not be increased,
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and that Mechanical/Electronic Recreation Devices licenses be amended as
follows:
$40/1 device
$80/2 to 4 devices
$240/5 to 10 devices
$500/11 to 15 devices
$800/over 15 devices
Hansen moved, seconded by Hicks, that Council adopt Resolution No. 85-60,
ESTABLISHING LICENSE/PERMIT FEES EFFECTIVE 1/1/86. Motion carried unani-
mously. (5-0)
Approval of Winter Parks and Recreation ProRram
Council was referred to Proposed Program Activities - Winter 1985-86.
. Hansen moved, seconded by Sather, that Council approve the Winter Park and
Recreation Program as presented. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
REPORT OF VILLAGE TREASURER DONALD LAMB
Investments
11/15/85 - $519,018.75 at 7.81% interest for 30 days at Twin City Federal,
maturing 12/16/85.
11/25/85 - $100,000.00 at 7.65% interest at Twin City Federal, maturing
6/19/86.
Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, to ratify the Treasurer's investments.
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
November 21 Fire Board MeetinR
Hansen reported that some firefighters feel an additional station is needed
by Arden Hills; reported that she advised the'Board members that Arden Hills
does not have an interest in an additional station at this time. Hansen re-
ported that some firefighters have expressed a different opinion of need from
that of Chief Koch; suggested that Council may wish to consider getting
another opinion; noted our ISO rating would probably go down; reported Shoreview
is proceeding with a fourth station, probably north of 1-694 and Victoria -
noted they will look for a site closer to Arden Hills, if Arden Hills is
interested; assumes the south Shoreview station will probably be owned by
Shoreview and manned by LJVFD.
Hansen said she would like Council's input. The general consensus of Council
was that Arden Hills will have an interest in the south station if its location
will improve our response time; if not, nothing has changed.
OTHER BUSINESS
December 4 Plannin~ Commission Meetin~ and December 3 Council Meetin~
Hicks to be absent.
December 3 Closed Meetin~ - Union Ne~otiations
Sather reported that one meeting has been held with the union negotiatior;
will have a list of ideas and options for consideration at the December 3 meet-
ing.
. Hamline Avenue Improvement - Plannin~ Commission's Recommendations to
Council
Council concurred to defer this referral to the January Planning Commission
agenda (December Planning Commission meeting to be cancelled.)
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Ramsey County LeaRue Meetin~
Hansen reported the DWI law was discussed at the RCLLG meeting. Council
concurred that Attorney Filla be invited to a future Council meeting.
REPORT OF VILLAGE CLERK ADMINISTRATOR CHARLOTTE MCNIESH
Approval of 1986 Liquor Licenses
Council was referred to list of liquor license renewals for 1986.
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Hansen moved, seconded by Sather, that Council approve the following liquor
licenses, subject to approval of the Fire and Police Department reports:
1. Southmark Hospitality Management, Inc. d/b/a McGuire's Inn
1201 West County Road E
On Sale
On Sale Sunday
2. Big Ten Supper Club, Inc.
4703 Highway 10
On Sale
On Sale Sunday
Off Sale
3. GDM d/b/a Lindey's Prime Steak House .
3610 North Snelling Avenue
On Sale
Off Sale
4. Flaherty's Arden Bowl, Inc.
1243 West County Road E
On Sale
On Sale Sunday
5. Arden Hills Club, Inc.
4177 Fernwood Avenue
On Sale
On Sale Sunday
6. Blue Fox, Inc.
3833 North Lexington Avenue
On Sale
On Sale Sunday
7. Star Liquor, Inc.
3537 North Lexington Avenue
Off Sale
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Resolution No. 85-62, ApportioninR Assessments, Water 68-2 and 68-3, Ranallo
Sather moved, seconded by Peck, that Council adopt Resolution No. 85-62,
RESOLUTION RELATING TO APPORTIONMENT OF ASSESSMENTS RELATING TO CONSOLIDATED
WATER IMPROVEMENTS NOS. 68-2 AND 68-3. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
December Council Meetin~ Schedule
Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, that Council approve the following December
Council meeting schedule,
December 3 - Special Council Meeting, 5:30 p.m. at Village Hall
December 9 - Regular Council Meeting at 7:30 p.m. at Mounds View High School
Theater.
December 16- Special Council Meeting at 7:30 p.m. at Village Hall.
December 30- Regular Council Meeting at 7:30 p.m. at Village Hall.
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Sather moved, seconded by Peck, that a portion of the December 3 meeting be .
closed for union negotiation discussion. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Claims and Payroll
Hicks moved, seconded by Sather, that Council approve the Claims and Payroll
as presented. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Pull Tabs at Blue Fox
Council was referred to McNiesh's memo (11/1/85) re offer from Blue Fox that
Arden Hills Park Fund be the recipient of pull-tab charitable receipts.
After discussion, Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, that Council enter into
this operation with Park Fund as beneficiary, for a period of one year, provided
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the City is not responsible for the operation, subject to approval of the City
Attorney. Council to review after one year. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Adiournment
Sather moved, seconded by Peck, that the meeting adjourn at 10:47 p.m. Motion
carried unanimously. (5-0)
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Charlotte McNiesh
Clerk-Administrator Mayor
. Notice of Meetings
The next Special Council Meeting will be on December 3 at 5:30 p.m. at the
Village Hall.
The next Regular Council Meeting will be on December 9 at 7:30 p.m. at the
Mounds View High School Theater.
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