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MINUTES OF REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING
Village of Arden Hills
Monday, May 13, 1985 - 7:30 p.m.
Village Hall
Call to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Woodburn called the meeting
to order at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Call
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Mayor Robert Woodburn, Councilmembers Dale Hicks, Nancy
Hansen, Gary Peck, Thomas Sather
None
Engineer Donald Christoffersen, Planner Orlyn Miller,
Treasurer Donald Lamb, Public Works Supervisor Robert Raddatz,
Clerk Administrator Charlotte McNiesh, Deputy Clerk Dorothy
Zehm
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Approval of Minutes
Peck moved, seconded by Sather, that the minutes of the April 29th Council
meeting be approved as submitted. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Business from the Floor
None
Lake Josephine
Petition Opposina Lake Treatment and Bost Launch, Rice Creek Watershed
Grant
Thomas Lynch, 3220 N. Hamline Avenue, presented s petition to the City
Council, signed by about 60 residents of Arden Hills living on property
adjoining Lake Josephine, opposing the proposed program for treatment
of Lake Josephine by the Federal E.P.A., Minnesota P.C.A., Minnesota D.N.R.,
Rice Creek Watershed District, and the Ramsey County Parks and Recreation
Department, making the following statements:
1. Lake Josephine is cleaner now, and with less algae than in past
years; therefore, leave the lake bottom alone, no calcium nitrate
needed.
2. Let the sunfish, crappies and northern pike exist with the carp
in Lake Josephine as they are today. Forego any restocking.
3. Without the restocking of the lake, we see nO reason for a public
boat access with six (6) auto parking places with the ongoing cost
to police the lake surface.
Lynch reported that the D.N.R. proposes
kill all the fish; noted that the lake
the only way to rid the lake of carp.
re-stock the lake.
to poison the lake, which will
has a lot of carp; and this is
Lynch noted that they will then
Lynch said Lake Josephine is 118 acres in area; therefore, according to
D.N.R. it has the authority to build a public access (any lake of 100
acres or more in the metro area). Lynch noted that the only public property
on the lake is at the beach location, which means the boat access will
be adjacent to the beach area, a very dangerous combination of uses.
Lynch explained that County Ditch 4 needs upgrading. Federal government
will finance the upgrading only if the public access on Lake Josephine
goes in. Lynch explained that their biggest concern is that Lake Josephine
is too small for six additional power boats next to the public beach -
concern is for safety.
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Sergeant Bergeron, Ramsey County Water Patrol, noted the proposed access
point on a map of the lake, just north of the public beach; noted that
boats pick up and drop off skiers; noted that the boat access, beach
and area where skiers are dropped off, is in a small, congested area.
Hansen noted that Lake Johanna has a similar situation; asked how Lake
Josephine differs from Johanna - both are small lakes; noted that the
residents of Lake Johanna were opposed to boat access also, but could
not stop it; noted that water surface controls were imposed for safety.
Minutes of Regular Council Meeting. May 13
Page two
Peck noted that he understands the lake treatment is optional; DNR can
put the boat access in at any time - City has no control over this aspect.
Hicks said it is his understanding that DNR can put in the boat launch;
lake treatment will be studied I if people do not want the treatment, they
won't do it.
Lynch said the residents do not oppose access for fishing boats, canoes,
small motor boats and sail boats by non-residents; noted that the lake
is too small for additional power boats; stated that 80 acres of the lake
is less than 15 feet deep.
Woodburn said he feels it is a zoning problem; stated that people bought
property because of the existing conditions I feels that three power boats
on the lake at one time is the limit for the lake.
Gloria Kennedv. 1280 InRerson Road, stated that the DNR said Lake Josephine ~
is nota high priority lake for installation of a boat ramp.
Hansen said that City has no power to stop boats on Lake Johanna; said
she doesn't want a boat launch either; suggested that maybe a small boat
launch ia all rilht.
Gloria Kennedy said that Hansen can realize then how upset we are.
Hansen said she has sympathy. but a ramp on Josephine may take some of
the boat traffic off of Johanna.
Bill Klatt. 1208 EdRewater, asked the size and depth of Lake Johanna -
Hansen said it is about twice the size of Josephine - is 35 feet at the
deepest point - averages 10 to 15 feet deep. Klatt said if the boat ramp
is a problem on Johanna, it doesn't make sense on a smaller lake; noted
that six parking spaces are proposed, but we will have more boats; people
will drop boat off and leave with the car.
Hansen noted that Johanna residents asked far the Iske surface regulations
because of the boat ramp.
Bergeron said the Ramsey County'Water Patrol also polices White Bear Lake
during certain hours; noted they cannot guarantee they can be on hand
at all times when the need for assistance arises.
Hicks moved, seconded by Peck, that Council adopt Resolution No. 85-23,
apposing the public access on Lake Josephine for safety reason,
because of size and depth of the lake and the lack of ability
to control traffic; opposing the flah kl I I which I, not deemed
necessary; opposing treatment of the lake with calcium nitrate
whIch Is considered to be experimental, with no proof of Its
effectIveness. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0>
Ad Hoc Committee Appointments
Woodburn appointed two residents, Maurice Johnson and Thomas Lynch, and
two Councilmembers, Dsle Hicks and Thomas Sather, to represent Arden Hills
on the Rosevi1le/Arden Hills Ad Hoc Committee.
REPORT OF VILLAGE ENGINEER DONALD CHRISTOFFERSEN
Resolution No. 85-20. APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY LAYOUT FOR THE IMPROVEMENT
OF HIGHWAY 694 FROM THE WEST EXIT RAMP AT RAMUNE AVENUE TO FLORAL DRIVE
Christoffersen displayed the Preliminary Layout, and noted the alignment .
changes proposed by the State. Christoffersen indicated the curved access
ramp, instead of the right angle ramp, proposed by the City; noted that
the curve arrangement indicates a "Yield" rather than a "Stop" from 1-694
at Ham1ine Avenue. Christoffersen explained that the State had a problem
with sight distance and prefers this alignment to the plan presented by
the City for approval; noted that, except for the curved access, it is es.
sentially the same plan.
Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, May 13
Page three
Tom Rockne said he feels the proposed layout will move the danger farther
down the road; why not stop for traffic on Ham1ine?
Hicks noted that the Council considered four alternatives and selected the
one it preferred. Christoffersen said the original City-designed plan was
rejected by the State; State proposes this plan as a better layout.
Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, that Council adopt Resolution No. 85-20,
APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY LAYOUT FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF HIGHWAY 694 FROM THE
WEST BOUND EXIT RAMP AT HAMLINE AVENUE TO FLORAL DRIVE. Motion carried
unanimously. (5-0)
REPORT OF VILLAGE PLANNER ORLYN MILLER
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Case No. 85-4. Special Use Permit - Satellite ReceivinR/TransmittinR Dish.
Northwestern Col1eRe
Miller explained that the applicant is proposing to install two satellite
dishes, one for receiving and one for transmitting.. on the Northwestern
College campus. Miller explained that prior to recent Zoning Ordinance
modifications. satellite dishes were treated as accessory structures; noted
that the recent revisions define dishes, over 30 inches in diameter, as
"miscellaneous towers" requiring a Special Use Permit. Miller explained
that this change was made to give the City the opportunity to assess the
visual impact.
Miller reported that a Public Hearing was held by the Planning Commission
at which time the Commission considered the impact of the dishes on the
neighborhood as well as on the campus; reported that potential hazards were
also discussed. Miller reported that the Planning Commission recommends
approval of the proposed satellite dish location subject to Northwestern
College dropping the grade within the walled area. if feasible. to hide
more of the dishes; (this was preferred to a higher wall).
Paul Ramseyer (Northwestern College) distributed copies of a letter from
Racom Service Corporation (5/6/85) re Uplink Antenna Foundation Considera-
tions. advising that "any decrease in overall antenna height which could
be gained by lowering the foundation would come at the expense of future
flexibility should the need arise .to acquire other space craft. The letter
also stated that "the proposed site will afford maximum flexibility in
space craft arc coverage, and will be the easiest site of all considered
to secure and maintain".
Ramseyer explained that satellite up-linking has definite advantages to
their system; displayed an artist's rendering of the dishes as seen above
the 6' high brick wall (protruding about 4' above the wall).
Hicks asked the color of the fiberglass. Answer was diffused white - not
shiny. Hicks asked if the color could be changed to more closely match
the ~lor of the brick. Answer was that this off-white is standard for
light reflection; does not believe there is other diffusing-type paint.
Maurice Johnson. 3124 Hamline Avenue. said he has seen two dishes that were
a light tan color. It was surmised that the tan dishes were probably
receiving dishes, not up-link.
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Sather moved. seconded by Hansen. that Council approve a Special Use Permit
for the receiving and transmitting satellite dishes on the Northwestern
College campus as requested (Case No. 85-4). Motion carried unanimously.
(5-0).
Case No. 84-21, Planned Unit Development. StaRe 1. General Plan Approval
North HeiRhts Lutheran Church
Council was referred to Planning memo (4/19/85) and Planning Commission
minutes (5/1/85). Miller explained that Stage 1 is in conformance with
the concept plan approved in August of 1984. but has been reduced to a 2.000
seat worship center and support facilities (previously proposed 3.000 seats)
and parking for 700 cars (previously proposed 1,000 spaces). Miller reported
that some modifications have been made to the plans submitted for Stage
1; noted that the applicant has submitted a great deal of documentation
and a refined plan in an effort to address the concerns expressed by the
Planner as well as their own consultants.
Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, May 13
Page four
Miller reviewed the primary concerns of the Planning Commission and reported
that the Planning Commission recommends approval of the Stage 1 General
Plan, subject to review of the exterior building surface material if it
is not to be brick, and subject to Planning Commission review of detailed
plans of the proposed symbol.
Reverend Peterson said that North Heights Lutheran Church has appreciated
assistance from Orlyn Miller, the Parks Committee and the Planning Commission
in refining their Stage 1 development plans; feels they have a good relation-
ship which they want to continue through all phases of development.
Peterson said Stage 1 is proposed for 1985/1986 construction; noted that
they are proposing to defer the additional 1,000 seats to a later construc-
tion stage, probably Stage 2 (3,000 seat - maximum of 5,000 seat total);
Stage 3 is anticipated to be the 8 acre commercial area at the northwest
corner of the site; Stage 4 (1994/1995) is the Prayer Retreat House. 4It
Peterson reported that North Heights proposes to dedicate 4.57 acres of
land, at the south of the site, for City park purpo~es, as recommended by
the Parks Committee.
In review of the Stage 1 plans, Peterson explained that they have changed
the parking lot configuration and grading; proposes 700 paved parking spaces
(667 required); have reduced the grading limits from the earlier proposal -
are deferring the cut area at the east of the site to stay about 175' -
200' from Snelling in an effort to leave the mature trees and a natural
berm at the north; noted they may have to encroach on this setback in later
stages of development.
Peterson noted that the Snelling access drive has been moved to the north;
refined plan provides for more efficient traffic flow on the site and greater
on-site stacking of cars exiting the site.
Peterson noted that they now plan to retain the natural 60' - 70' wide swale
(west of the south parking lot); propose to do more field adjusting at the
time of grading, to save more trees in the parking areas. Peterson indicated
overflow parking area for about 200 cars at the northwest of the site, and
parking around the perimeter of the south parking lot. Peterson said they
want to retain the wooded appearance of the site and propose to plant more
trees.
Peterson reported that they have made application to several other regulatory
agencies:
DNR ... have verbal assurance of no problem with the Northwest wetland
area.
Corp of Engineers ... have verbal assurance of no problems.
RCWD ... no approval to date.
MnDOT '" no approval to date - Peterson reported that MnDOT is willing
to talk about a median cut at the Highway 96 aCcess drive; the
Church is requesting it be moved toward the west.
In discussion, it was queried how the building will be enlarged to accommodate
the additional 3,000 seats. The outward expansion was described, noting
there will be no change in the height of the structure. The heights of
the various portions of the building were noted (major portion at 46', 24' -
26' as seen from Snelling Avenue; symbol will not exceed 90'). The depth
of the symbol was estimated at 40' x 4+' by Peterson.
Peterson said North Heights definitely wants the exterior surface of the 4It
structure to be brick in the areas that are not to be removed for expansion
purposes; noted that "dry-vit" panels or wood panels are proposed, in warm
colors, to harmonize wich the earth-tone brick.
It was asked if the future stage building pads will be changed from the
concept plan. Peterson said they will not move closer to the east or north,
but will probably be closer to Highway 10; noted that one of the buildings
shown on the concept plan encroaches on the area proposed for park dedica-
tion.
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Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, May 13
Page five
Miller reported that the landscape plan identifies species and sizes proposed
around the building and parking lots; plan also shows lighting and signage
locations. Miller noted that the grading limits have changed since the
Planning Commission meeting; questioned whether the berm shown at Snelling
in the south area is really necessary - said he does not see much of a need
for this berm. Miller said he would like to see more planting in the northwest
area, but this area is a natural for snow storage and also a logical over-
flow parking area. Miller noted that most of the coniferous trees have
been deleted from the earlier plan.
A drawing was shown by Peterson of the areas where trees will be retained,
and where trees are proposed to be removed.
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The lighting plan was shown, as well as a drawing of the "shoe box" type
light on a 30' high pole. Miller said the lens is recessed into the box;
light is downward; poles are higher than in other developments in Arden
Hills; feels the height may be a problem in other stages of development,
but not in Stage I, because of the distance from s~rrounding roads. Spacing
was stated to be 180' - 200' apart, creating pools of light. Miller was
asked to determine the candle power which should not exceed 1 foot-candle.
It was asked if the symbol is part of Stage 1. Peterson said we are asking
for approval contingent upon Planning Commission approval. Peterson re-
ported that the Planning Commission wants more detail; noted that North
Heights has not decided how to put light on it; etc.
Hicks said he appreciates that North Heights want the structure to look
like a church; would like to see a re-design to bring the height of the
symbol down; feels the height is excessive. Hansen agreed that the symbol
seems too massive. Peterson noted that it is over 1,000 feet from Snelling
Avenue and 400 feet from Highway 10; advised that the symbol is a signi-
ficiant part of our development. Hicks stated that the colored rendering
from Highway 10 is. pleasing but very visible at 90' in height.
Miller noted that church spires, etc. are exempt from Zoning Code height
limitations; noted that other structures may be permitted to exceed height
limits if it is determined that fire protection can be acconunodated; there
is no negative impact on scenic view nor will it shut off light or air;
structure will not exceed a floor area ratio of 0.5 and structure will have
greater setbacks than the height. Hicks noted that the symbol appears to
be a structure plus a spire (cross). Peterson said they will make a full
presentation to the Planning Conunission; North Heights does not know what
they desire at this time.
Hansen moved to approve the Planned Unit Development, Stage I, General Plan
and issuance of a Planned Unit Development Permit, contingent upon Planning
Commission review of the detailed plans of the symbol and exterior building
surfacing materials and subsequent Council approval. Hicks seconded the
motion and moved to amend the motion to add Council's approval of the brick
exterior surface of the worship center, excluding the three expansion sides
from use of brick (approving non-brick on the expansion sides). Amendment
was accepted by Hansen.
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After discussion of the motion, Hansen moved to further amend the motion
to add that Council accepts the 4.57 land dedication to the City as
fulfillment of the park dedication requirements, as reconunended by the Parks
Conunittee; actual dedication to the City to occur prior to building occu-
pancy. Hicks accepted the amendment and the two amendments to the motion
carried unanimously. (5-0)
After discussion of the original motion, it was moved by Hicks that the
motion be amended to add that the following items be made conditions of
the Planned Unit Development Permit:
1. The Snelling Avenue exits shall be signed "No Right Turn".
2. North Heights Lutheran Church shall provide traffic controllers, at
their expense,' to prohibit left-hand turns from Snelling Avenue and
right-hand turns to Snelling Avenue from the east entrance if signage
alone proves ineffective.
3. If weekday traffic through the adjacent neighborhood becomes a
problem, the Snelling Avenue entrance shall be closed except for major
events when traffic controllers are used.
Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, May 13
Page six
4. The use of the church and supporting facilities wit~the R-l Zoning
District shall be limited to those uses and activities normally
associated with a church operation. Extensive use of the church
facilities by rental or lease arrangement specifically for the purpose
of generating revenue for North Heights Lutheran Church shall be
prohibited, except as approved by the City Council.
5. The parking provided for Stage 1 shall be monitored by North Heights
Lutheran Church and the City to determine parking demand patterns
and adequacy of supply before additional expansion stages, as depicted
on the Concept Plan, are permitted. If parking demand increases to
a point that adequate spaces cannot be provided within site coverage
limitations, future enlargement of worship space and support facilities
may be restricted accordingly.
and that Council discussed the need for an E.A.W. and decided it is not
necessary. Motion on the amendment was seconded by Peck and carried
unanimously. (5-0)
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Sather stated that he feels the applicant has shown sensitivity for the
area and that Council appreciates this; expressed disappointment relative
to the discussion about the symbol; thanked the applicant for his work and
patience.
The original motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Case No. 84-5. Interpretation of Modification of Special Use Permit re Site
Plan (ParkinR and LandscapinR) - Arden Shoreview Animal Hospital. Dr. Richard
Routhe
Miller advised that a decision to approve or disapprove the site plan changes
is not requested tonight; explained that the animal hospital is currently
waiting for the site to dry out so paving and landscaping can be completed;
reported that the applicant has re-assessed the site plan and proposes to
re-arrange the parking and landscaped areas to provide a large space to'
exercise animals (west of the building) iustead of the narrow space at the
north between building and fence. Miller explained that use of the site
is not affected; Council is asked to make the determination of whether the
proposed site plan changes are deemed to be "insignificant"; if so, an
amended Special Use Permit (which requires the same procedure as a new SUP)
is not required, and the site plan changes can be reviewed without holding
a Public Hearing.
After discussion, Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, that Council interpret
the proposed changes as "not significant" and do not require an Amended
Special Use Permit. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Case No. 84-23, Shore land ManaRement Ordinance
Council was referred to Planning memo of 3/20/85, Planning Commission recom-
mendation (minutes of 5/1/85) and to Preliminary Request for Lake
Reclassification and Zoning Provision Modifications.
Miller reported that the Planning Commission, upon recommendation of the
Shoreland subcommittee, recommends Council approval of the changes in clas-
sifications and development standards as submitted. Miller noted that
after approval by City Council and subsequent approval by the DNR, a
Shore land Management Ordinance will be prepared for adoption by the Council.
Miller briefly reviewed the justification for the reclassifications re-
quested. After discussion, Hansen moved to adopt Resolution No. 85-22, .
RESOLUTION REQUESTING DNR APPROVAL OF RECLASSIFICATION AND ZONING PROVISION
MODIFICATION, AS SUBMITTED. Motion was seconded by Peck and carried
unanimously (5-0).
REPORT OF VILLAGE TREASURER DONALD LAMB
Investments
April 30, 1985
- $2.406,520.00at 1st Bank Mpls. at 7.34% to mature May I,
1985.
- $200,000.00 at First Federal at 8.20% to mature July 10,
1985.
$600,000.00 at First Federal at 8.4% to mature August 12,
1985.
$377,241.50 at First Federal at 8.4% to mature September
10, 1985.
May 1, 1985
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Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, May 13
Page seven
May 1, 1985 - $125,000 at First Federal at 8.65% to mature November 29 ,
1985.
Hicks moved, seconded by Sather, that Council ratify the Treasurer's invest-
ments. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
REPORT OF PUBLIC WORKS SUPERVISOR ROBERT RADDATZ
Informal Bids For Parks and Public Works Vehicles
Council was referred to Raddatz's memo of 5/13/85 listing six quotes received
for 1/4 ton, 1/2 ton and 1 ton trucks, and recommending the purchase from
Minar Ford, which he considers the best quote received.
Raddatz reported that Parks Director Buckley recommends the purchase of
one 1/2 ton pickup truck for the Parks Department and Raddatz recommended
that one 1/4 ton and two 1 ton trucks be purchased for the Public Works
Department.
Raddatz explained that he prefers a 1/4 ton pickup for his purposes, instead
of a 1/2 ton, because it costs less to run, will not be used for hauling
or plowing; will consequently last longer.
Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, to approve the purchase of one 1/4 ton
pickup truck from Minar Ford at $7,760.00 for the Public Works Department.
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, to approve the purchase of one 1/2 ton
pickup truck from Minar Ford at $7,780.00 for the Parks Department. Motion
carried unanimously. (5-0)
Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, to approve the purchase of a 1
from Minar Ford at $12,035.00 for the Public Works Department.
carried unanimously. (5-0)
ton truck
Motion
Hicks moved, seconded by Hansen, to approve the purchase of a 1
from Minar Ford at $12,035.00 for the Public Works Department.
unanimously. (5-0)
ton truck
Motion carried
Swmner Employees
Council was referred to Raddatz's memo recommending the employment of two
temporary, seasonal employees at $4.00 per hour, starting June 10, 1985.
Hansen moved, seconded by Hicks, to approve the employment of Tim Swenson
and Jeff Long, as temporary, seasonal employees, at $4.00 per hour, starting
June 10th. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Resolution No. 85-21, ESTABLISHING THE LAST SATURDAY IN APRIL AS "ARBOR
DAY" AND MAY AS "ARBOR MONTH"
Hansen moved, seconded by Peck, that Council adopt Resolution No. 85-21,
RESOLUTION ES1ABLlSHING THE LAST SATURDAY IN APRIL AS ARBOR DAY AND MAY
AS ARBOR MONTH. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
OTHER BUSINESS
Third Fire Station
Hansen reported that L.J.V.F.D. opposed the reversionary clause; Shoreview
Council requested City Manager Gary Dickson to start searching for a station
site in the north of Shoreview; apparently Shoreview will stay with the
contract cities in the south of Shoreview, and handle the north of Shoreview
alone. Hansen reported that the next Fire Board meeting will be on May
22nd.
Hicks suggested that L.J.V.F.D. be requested to divest itself of the land
purchased for the third station.
REPORT OF VILLAGE CLERK ADMINISTRATOR CHARLOTTE MCNIESH
Concession Stand License - Arden Hills Sportsman's Club
Sather moved, seconded by Peck, that Council approve the Concession Stand
Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, May 13
Page eight
license for the Arden Hills Sportsman's Club for balance of 1985. Motion
carried unanimously. (5-0)
Claims and Payroll
Hansen moved, seconded by Peck, that Council approve the Claims and Payroll
as submitted. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Arden Plaza Curb and DrainaRe
Council was referred to pictures of the west side of the Arden Plaza site,
showing sections of curb in disarray, area has not been maintained; dump-
sters have not been screened.
McNiesh was requested to advise C. G. Rein that the Council expects this
to be taken care of immediately, and that the area be sodded and main-
tained so that it will not .be unsightly and unreasonably detract from the
appearance of the surrounding area.
Gould and Company - Exterior StoraRe Area
McNiesh reported receipt of a complaint that the screening of the Gould
and Company exterior storage is in need of repair or replacement; detracts
from the appearance of the industrial area.
McNiesh was requested to advise Gould and Company that fencing and lands-
caping must be maintained so as not to be unSightly and detract from the
appearance of the area.
Street LiRht Request - Dr. Alper. 1600 Lake Johanna Boulevard
McNiesh reported that Dr. Alper has experienced vandalism and requests a
street light; reported she will send the request to the Public Safety Com-
mittee for its recommendations; reported that she explained to Dr. Alper
that, if the light does not meet the City's criteria for a street light,
an alternative would be to have the light installed and charges added tq
Dr. Alper's utility bill.
Adiournment
Peck moved, seconded by Hansen, that
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
the meeting adjourn at 11:39 p.m.
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~o ert L. Woodburn
Mayor
Charlotte McNiesh
Clerk Administrator
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