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MINUTES OF REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING
Village of Arden Hills
Monday, June 25, 1984 - 7:30 p.m.
Village Hall
Ca II to Order
Pursuant to due cal I and notice thereof, Mayor Woodburn called the
meeting to order at 7:34 p.m.
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Roll Call
Present - Mayor Robert Woodburn, Councllmembers Dale Hicks,
Michael Christiansen, Thomas Mulcahy, Kathleen
Rauenhorst (8:15 p.m.>.
Absent - None.
Also Present - Attorney James Lynden, Engineer Donald Christof-
fersen, Treasurer Donald Lamb, Cable TV Committee Chair-
man William Bauer, Clerk AdminIstrator Charlotte McNlesh,
Deputy Clerk Dorothy Zehm
Approval of Minutes
Hicks moved, seconded by Christiansen, that the Minutes of the
Councl I Meetings of June 11th and June 20th be approved as amended.
Motion- carried unanimously, with Mulcahy abstaining on the approval
of the June 11th Minutes because of his absence from that meeting.
(4-0-1 and 5-0>
BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR
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REPORT OF VILLAGE ATTORNEY JAMES LYNDEN
Resolution No. 84-18, Approving Cable Communications Offering
Amendment Agreement No. I and Authorizing Mayor and Clerk Adminis-
trator to Execute the Same on Behalf of the City.
Ordinance No. 233 - Amending Ordinance No. 226, Cable Communica-
tions Ordinance, by Altering the Provisions Therein Relating to
Channel Capacity, Two-way Capacity, Facilities, Special Channel
and Access Requirements, Construction Completion Date, and Rate
Change Procedure. '
Council was referred to draft of Resolution No. 84-18, and to
draft of Ordinance No. 233.
Wm. Bauer explained that ~ channel chart wi II be forthcoming for
attachment Which will list channels 2 through 16.
Lynden suggested that paragraph 4 of the Resolution be modified
to add "and that a channel chart should be attached as Appendix 3."
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Lynden recommended approval of the Resolution and Introduction of
the Ordinance by title; noted that Councl I can waive the 1st
reading If there Is an urgency. Bauer stated that there Is no
urgency; does not affect service or construction.
Council was referred to page A-5 (0) Group W's financial goals
and the methodology to arrive at such goals. Bauer explained
that some of that language developed around the proposal to act~-
vate the second cable, If and when It became necessary, and/or
desirable. Bauer noted that there were al I sorts of trigger
mechanisms discussed; al I sorts of discussion of language, to try
to ascertain what sort of a rate Increase - the basic bargain
was, If the second cable were activated, they should be able t~
have an Immediate rate Increase to be able to recoup that In-
vestment; additional franchise language was worked on to Identify
and quantify what that rate Increase would be. Creighton decided
that the existing rate change language, and rate of return pro-
visions In the franchise, has provided an adequate basis with these
amendments, for determining how much of a rate Increase would be
obtainable If the second cable were actIvated, or for any other
major change In the system.
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Minutes of Regular Council Meeting
Page two
June 25, 1984
Mr. Roger Franke, Cable Administrator, said that the concern of
the accountant was that Group W might look to this system as a
unique system, and therefore look for a unique way of arriving
at certain goals that are unIque to this system only. The
accountant suggested that some language be put In that says "If
the Company has a goal of a certain return on Investment, what
they do here must be consistent with what they do other places.~
e.g. If a cable company has a style of Increasing subscribers,
of going out and buying smaller and newer systems, and then as
soon as the tax advantages are gone, they sell them to some-
body else. Franke said he Is not criticizing this practice, but
that's what they do. They'll look for and buy systems for this
purpose. Group W/Westlnghouse has another approach. We are not
sure what It Is, but when the time comes for rate changes, we'll
expect them to tell us, and show us, that It Is consistent with .
the other cable activities that they have In the United States.
Franke explained that our goal was that we are not treated differ-
ently in the north suburbs than the other service territories
they provl de.
Hicks moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Councl I Introduce Ordi-
nance No. 233 by title, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 226,
THE CABLE COMMUNICATIONS ORDINANCE, BY ALTERING THE PROVISIONS
THEREIN RELATING TO CHANNEL CAPACITY, TWO-WAY CAPACITY, FACILITIES,
SPECIAL CHANNEL AND ACCESS REQUIREMENTS, CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION
DATE, AND RATE CHANGE PROCEDURE.
In discussion, Mulcahy asked If approval of the Ordinance or
Resolution affect the City's rights for breach of the original
agreement. Bauer answered "Yes"; said that one of the provisions
of the Agreement Is to waive penalties and sanctions that might
have accrued since November 12, 1983, and until November 12, 1984
(one year's worth of sanctions); noted that It contains many
other provisions that reduce Group W's commitment to provide
service; to that extent, It drastically changes Commission's
ability to enforce the original c9ntract.
Mulcahy stated that, on that basis, he is opposed t6 the motion.
Woodburn noted that there Is a $150,000 Indemnification, in lieu
of penalty. Lynden noted that this $150,000 is not an advance on
past or future franchise fees. Bauer said he has been told that
Group W does not like the word "fine" or "sanction"; they'd
rather make a lump-sum payment In exchange for othe~ things, In
addition to waiver of fines; stated that the $150,000 Is not speci-
fically Identified as "In lieu of fines" or "other sanctions".
We would be agreeing not to fine them If this motion Is passed.
Motion carried (Hicks, Christiansen, Woodburn voting In favor of
the motion; Mulcahy voting In opposition). (3-1)
No action was taken on Resolution No. 84-18.
Cable TV Complaint re Overhead Cable Lines - Cost Estimates to
Relocate Lines
Councl I concurred to defer action untl I Mr. Taylor can be present.
REPORT OF VILLAGE ENGINEER DONALD CHRISTOFFERSEN
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Feasibility Report, Impr. No. SS-W-P-ST 84-1, Royal Hills North -
Resolution No. 84-19
Council was referred to Feasibility Report (6-21-84) and to
letter supplement (6-25-84) on Royal Hills North Addition, City
Improvement SS-W-P-ST 84-1.
Christoffersen explained that the report shows the streets and
utIlities In the development; noted that we have to obtain a 30'
wide strip of property for Arden View Drive r.o.w.; noted that the
only other unusual thing Is the dralnageway near Snelling Avenue.
Woodburn asked the required procedure, If the Council would think
It equitable and reasonable to Include some lots on the north side
of Arden View Drive In the assessment; we then do not have a 100%
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Minutes of Regular Councl I Meeting
Page th ree '
June 25, 1984
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petition for the Improvement. McNlesh explained that If the Im-
provement Is not 100% petitioned, Councl I action would be to
receive the Feasibility Report and provide for a Public Hearing;
at that Public Hearing the Councl I mayor may not order the Plans
and Specs. McNlesh explained that the only other public hearing
required Is the Assessment Hearing.
Christoffersen said the cost estimate does Include the portion of
Arden View Drive that has to be re-bullt.
Mayor Woodburn asked if the major petitioner feels the 511,520/10t
cost Is considered acceptable. Christoffersen said he talked to
the petitioner today, and he thought this is a reasonable number;
reported that he did bring to his attention that he did not Include
the 7 lots north of Arden View Drive (reason for the supplement
ton I ght).
George Reiling (owner of property to the north of Royal Hllis North
Addition) verified that he would not petition for the Improvement;
stated that he wi I I give the land only If he Is not to be assessed
for street, sewer and water.
Woodburn noted that it Is his understanding that It was determined
previously that the value of the assessment Is In excess of the
value of the land; therefore the need for condemnation. Lynden
reported that he was advised that Counci I authorized condemnation
. for the road on Feb rua ry 13th.
Christiansen moved, seconded by Mulcahy, that Councl I adopt
Resolution No. 84-19, Receiving Report and Providing for Public
Hearing (Monday, July 30th). Motion carried unanlmousiy..:-(4-0)
(Rauenhorst arrived whl Ie vote was being taken)
Resolution No. 84-20, ApprovlnQ Plans and Specifications and
OrderlnQ Advertisement for Bids, Impr. No. SS-W-P-ST 84-2. Lamettl
Addition
Christiansen moved, seconded by Hicks, that Council .adopt
Resolution No. 84-20, APPROVING' PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS AND
ORDERING ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS, IMPR. NO. SS-W-P-ST 84-2,
LAMETTI ADDITION. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
(Bids to be opened at 2:00 p.m. on August 9,1984 at the Village
Hall. )
Karth Lake Water Level
Christoffersen reported that In 1974 the lake elevation was 929.8;
later on in July, 1977 It was 929.7; In June 1978, during con-
struction, the level was 931.27. Christoffersen noted that
these were the only substantial high elevations he could find.
Christoffersen reported that Bob Todd's letter Indicates the
elevation Is at 936 now; noted that the weather bureau reports
18" precipitation this year; 11.9" Is considered normal. noted
that the lake has bounced 2-3 feet and has not gone back down.
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Christoffersen noted that if the lake Is to be pumped, the maxi-
mum amount of pumping that we could achieve would be 1000 gpm -
water would be pumped to a high point In the street and water
would then run down the gutter lines to catch basins; the closest
catch basin Is a few hundred feet down the street.
Christoffersen figured, at 1000 gpm, It would put about 2" of
water In the street (curbs are about 4" high). To pump 6' 111000
gpm would take about 20 days; 3' about 10 days.
Christoffersen recommended that DNR be contacted re a permit for
the temporary pumping, and also advise RCWD. Christoffersen said
the water from the lake will be relatively clear; wil'l be dis-
charged to the north side of Highway 96 to Marsden Lake and then
to Rice Creek. Christoffersen advised that a generator would be
Minutes of Regular Councl I Meeting
Page four
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June 25, 1984
used, and It Is noisy - will be hea~d 24 hrs/day; noted that the
alternative would be service from NSP, which could be a 6-week
walt.
A resident said their spokesman Is not here yet; he has Information
relative to the high and low water levels of the lake; residents
consider the pumping a short-term solution to save some of their
property; are looking for a long-term solution to maintain lake
at a certain level - a level we can all agree upon. Christoffersen
advised that the DNR wi II establish the level; residents wi II
not have that option.
Keith Enrooth (spokesman for the Karth Lake residents) arrived at
the meeting, and Christoffersen summarized the lake level and
pumping data given earlier In the meeting.
Johansen referred Councl I to estimated pump costs obtained from
three companies; noted they are rough estimates, nothing concrete-
were obtained over the phone; stated the costs would probably not
exceed the maximums quoted.
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In answer to a resident's question as to the location of the pump-
Ing site, Christoffersen Indicated the anticipated pumping loca-
tion on Karth Lake Drive, from which the lake water would be
discharged Into the gutters at a rate of 1000 gpm to the nearest
catch basins; noted the water wi II be running down the street
~4 hrs/day; generator noise will be heard 24 hrs/day for about 8
days, If lake Is to be lowered li-2 feet. Christoffersen traced
the route of the water from the Karth Lake Drive location to Its
eventual discharge Into Rice Creek.
Some of the concerns expressed by residents present were:
- anticipated run-off from Lexington Avenue Improvement;
will It Increase over what It was before?
- anticipated run-off from Hamllne Avenue when road Is up-
graded?
- why doesn't Kar~ Lake have an outlet?
- some of the riparian landowners now have portions of
their previously dry land under water. ~
- trees are in Jeopardy.
Christoffersen responded to the run-off questions; explained the
storm drainage routes northwest and south of the Karth Lake
District which Is through storm sewers and then via surface
drainage north to Marsden Lake and Rice Creek - west across Hamllne
and then surface drainage to Round Lake, south to County Road F ~
and then surface drainage to Valentine Lake. Christoffersen
explained that the Karth Lake District drains Into Karth Lake which
Is an Isolated body of water that does not have a direct outlet.
Christoffersen explained that a direct outlet for Karth Lake was
not anticipated because the storage capacity of the lake was con-
sidered to be sufficient to store all of the drainage from Its
relatively small tributary area; noted that a 100 year storm could
bring It upA4"; reported that the trees were not taken Into con-
sideration, only the houses.
Christoffersen explained that lake level control can be achieved
by Installing a storm water pumping station and forcemaln which
would discharge flows Into Marsden Lake District; this permanent .
outlet would probably Involve an area assessment and approval
by DNR.
Enrooth ~eported that the matter of assessment was discussed at
their meeting; some agreed to an assessment and others did not -
feel they are already paying high taxes.
Rauenhorst moved, seconded by Mulcahy, that Councl I authorize the
pumping of Karth Lake, lowering the lake level 18" at a cost not
to exceed $4,000.
Minutes of Regular Council Meeting
Page five
June 25, 1984
In discussion, Christiansen suggested that the DNR be contacted
for approval. A resident suggested that the storm sewers should
be raised; noted they are under water now. Christoffersen explain-
ed that storm sewers wi II function under water. Enrooth reported
that Paul Chadbourn, 1220 Karth Lake Drive, suggested that the
pump and generator could possible be located on the vacant lot
next door to him (would need an easement from owner) or can use
his p rope rty .
Mulcahy suggested that Councl I proceed with the pumping as soon
as possible; delay can be extremely serious. It was suggested by
Hicks that the pipes not be removed when lak.e Is lowered 18", pend-
Ing response from the residents at that time.
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Rauenhorst amended the motion to notify DNR of the City's Intent
to pump Karth Lake because of the emergency. Mulcahy agreed to
the amendment. Motion, as amended, carried unanimously. (5-0).
It Is Councl I 's understanding that costs exceeding $4000 wi II be
paid by the Karth Lake residents. Hicks noted that he supported
the motion, but Is not wi I ling to spend City money to pump It
again; feels citizens should be prepared to bear the cost of
solving the problem on a long-term basis.
A resident asked If City has sufficient hydrological Information
as to what the lake wi II be over the next 10 years; noted this
'can be predicted If we have enough data. Christoffersen noted
that the ground water may also be rising.
Rauenhorst moved, seconded by Christiansen, that Councl I refer
the permanent solution of the ~arth Lake water level to RCWD and
DNR, with In-put from Engineer Christoffersen. Motion carried
unanimously. (5-0)
(Karth Lake residents said they plan to form an association.)
REPORT OF VILLAGE TREASURER DONALD LAMB
In vestmen t
6/18/84 - $202,016.67 at First Federal 8 11.85% Interest for
6 months, maturing 12/18/84.
Christiansen moved, seconded by Rauenhorst, that Councl I ratify
the Treasurer's Investment. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Approval of Swlmmlnq Instructor
Council was referred to Buckley's memo (6/21/84).
Hicks moved, seconded by Rauenhorst, that Councl I approve the
hiring of Tracy Overmoen as swimming Instructor, as per memo.
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Approval of Arden Oaks Park Gradlnq
Councl I was referred to Buckley's memo (6/22/84) and to attached
memo from Planner Orlyn Miller (6/15/84) relative to re-gradlng
of the Arden Oaks Park site to a lower elevation.
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Rauenhorst moved, seconded by Mulcahy, that Council approve the
change of grade as recommended by Planner.
In discussion, concern was expressed relative to changing grade
from the approved plan, without contacting residents in close
proximity of the park, and at least the Chairmen of the Parks
and Planning committees.
Hicks meved to amend the motion to refer the proposed grading
to the chairmen of the Parks Committee and Planning Commission for
recommendations to Council, and to defer Councl I action until the
July 9th meeting. Amendment was agreed to by Rauenhorst and
Mulcahy. Motion, as amended, carried unanimously. (5-0)
Inquiry re Antennas on Water Tower
Councl I was referred to Planning Memo (6/14/84) relative to possible
Minutes of Regular Councl I Meeting
Page six
June 25, 1984
request for construction of telephone transmission tower (New
Vector Communications).
In discussion, Councl I comments were:
Rauenhorst - would like to listen to the presentation;
seems preferable to a separate tower.
Hicks
- would want to see a reasonable financial
advantage to the City, If water tower Is
utilized.
- feels the City does not legally have to accept
another tower.
McNlesh was requested to contact Mr. Vince Sedmark, representing .
New Vector Communications and relay response by Individual
Councllmembers to his Inquiry.
Mulcahy
Committee Resignation and Appointments
Finance Committee
At the recommendation of Finance Committee Chairman Carl
Rundquist, Councl I concurred to make no new appointments
to the Finance Committee until 1985.
Rauenhorst moved, seconded by Mulcahy, that Councl I accept,
with regret, Lee Starr's resignation from the Finance Com-
mittee. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
(Certificate of Appreciation to be prepared.)
Cable Communication Advisor Committee Resl nation
auenhorst moved to accept Mark ottinger s resignation from
the Cable Communication Advisory Committee, with regret.
Motion was seconded by Christiansen and carried unanimously.
(5-0) .
Human Rights Commission
Deferred appointments to the next regular meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Councl I Resignation
Councl Imember Christiansen presented Council his letter of reslg-
nation from the Council effective August I, 1984.
Mayor Woodburn expressed Council's very deep-felt sense of loss
that Christiansen Is leaving Arden HI I Is.
Rauenhorst moved, seconded by Hicks, that Councl I accept Chris-
tiansen's resignation from the Councl I effective August 1st.
Motion carried. (4-0-1, Christiansen abstained.)
REPORT OF CLERK ADMINISTRATOR CHARLOTTE MC NIESH
Claims and Payrol I
Councl I was referred to lists of Claims and Payroll.
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Hicks moved, seconded by Christiansen, that Council approve the
Claims and Payroll, as submitted. Motion carried unanimously.
(5-0)
July Council Meeting Schedule
Council concurred that Council meetings be scheduled on July 9th
and July 30th.
Utility Bill Notice
Councl I was referred to draft of Notice of Rate Increase to be
s e n t with J u I y u t II I t Y b I I Is.
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Minutes ot Regular Co~ncl I Meeting
Page seven
June 25, 1964
Council concurred with the notice as submitted.
Adjournment
Hicks moved, seconded by Christiansen, that the meeting adjourn
at 10:02 p.m. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
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Charlotte McNiesh
Clerk Administrator
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, Robert L. Woodburn
Mayor
NOTICE OF MEETING
The next Regular Council Meeting wi II be held on Monday, July 9,
1984 at 7:30 p.m. at the Village Hall.
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ADDENDUM TO COUNCIL MINUTES OF June 25, 1984
Request for Joint Powers Aqreement with City of Shorevlew
to Furnish Utilities for MnDOT Facilities on County Road I
Counci I was referred to letter from MnDOT (6/22/84.
Paul Jensen, Building Engineer, MnDOT Transportation Building,
reported that about three weeks ago the arsenal sewer main
collapsed, and the arsenal Is abandoning the I ine; reported
that no arsenal buildings are connected to this main. Jensen
explained that the only reasonable option they have Is to connect
to the Shorevlew sanitary sewer on County Road I at Schutta Rd.
advise~ that there Is a 9" sewer main and an 8" water main
which are quite convenient - about a 700' run.
Rauenhorst moved, seconded by Christiansen, that Councl I author-
Ize the City attorney to prepare a Joint Powers Agreement between
A~den Hi I Is and Shoreview for the provision of sanitary sewer
and municipal water uti litles to the MnDOT facilities on County
Road I by the City of Shoreview. Motion carried unanimously.
(5-0 )
It was noted by McNlesh that Shoreview has Its own wel Is and
have different water and sewer rates from those of Arden Hi I Is.
(It was the general concensus of Councl I that permits and in-
spections be by Shorevlew, billing by Shorevlew directly to
MnDOT, without the involvement of Arden HI lis, and that MnDOT
reimburse Arden Hi lis for Arden Hills attorney costs.>