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Minutes of Regular Councl I Meeting
Village of Arden Hills
Monday, February 13, 1984 - 7:30 p.m.
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Call to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Woodburn cal led
the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Call
Present
- Mayor Robert Woodburn, Councllmembers Thomas
Mulcahy, Michael ChrIstiansen, Kathleen
Rauenhorst, Dale HIcks
- None
- Attorney James Lynden, Engineer Donald
Christoffersen, Planner Orlyn Miller, Treasurer
Donald Lamb, Clerk AdmInIstrator Charlotte
McNlesh, Deputy Clerk Dorothy Zehm
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Absent
Also Present
Approval of MInutes
Hicks moved, seconded by Christiansen, that the Minutes of the
January 30, 1984 Council Meeting be approved as amended.
MotIon carried unanimously. (5-0)
Ro~er Blomquist, President, Ramsev Countv Leaque of Local
Governments
Mr. Blomquist distributed R.C.L.L.G. materials to Council and
briefly described the objectives and structure of R.C.L.L.G.
Blomquist encouraged the support of Arden Hills In the
or~anlzatlon; Invited Council to attend the February 15th
meeting In Shorevlew.
Business from the Floor
None
REPORT OF VILLAGE ATTORNEY JAMES LYNDEN
Status Report - Assessment Appeals
Lynden reported that nIne of the 10 appeals are represented by
Attorney Bruce Malkerson, who has requested a postponement
until next fall; reported that 1 appeal Is on the calendar for
April 18th (George ReIling, represented by Attorney John
Daubney) .
Lynden said he would like Council approval to hire an appraiser
or two; suggested Blake DavIs and Mike Bettendorf; cost for
appraIsal of land - approxImately $385/parcel, land with
buildings approximately $700/parcel. Lynden reported that
some of the appellants are the same as In Shorevlew - 3 have
settled with Shorevlew. Lynden reported no response to
Interrogatories from the nine appellants; Reiling argues
"no benefit".
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After dIscussion, Hicks moved, seconded by Rauenhorst, that
Councl I authorize Lynden to prepare motion to compel discovery
and to seek continuance untl I next fal I. Motion carried
unanimously. (5-0)
(Lynden withdrew request to hire appraisers.)
REPORT OF VILLAGE PLANNER ORLYN MILLER
Case No. 83-29, Preliminary Plat of Roval Hills North -
Marcel Elbenstelner
Woodburn explained that he and the developer had been optomlstlc
that the i road could be negotiated, after their meeting with
Reiling, but the negotiations have deteriorated.
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Miller referred CouncIl to a transparency of the proposed plat;
noted the * road proposed at the north boundary of the property,
antIcIpatIng the other * road on the ReI ling property. It was
noted that * roads are frowned upon; the Comprehensive Plan
IdentIfies a publIc road right-of-way precIsely where It Is
shown, and It Is considered to be In the publIc Interest to
obtaIn this land for a road.
MIller noted that for plannIng and engIneerIng reasons, shifting
of the road Is not practIcal; road should be located as IndIcated.
Lynden explaIned that If public benefIt can be shown and the
road Is necessary and It Is In the publIc Interest to obtain
thIs land for a road, City can condemn It.
MIller recommended that approval of the PrelIminary Plat be
deferred pendIng resolutIon of the followIng:
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1. ElimInatIon of Arden View DrIve r.o.w. west of Royal
Hills DrIve.
2. ProvIsIon of InsIde r.o.w. radius of at teast 25
feet at the turn In Arden VIsta DrIve.
3. SatIsfactory resolutIon of storm water storage at
the southwest portion of the site.
4. ProvIsIon of a 20' wide park dedIcatIon along the
east boundary of the property.
5. Renaming of Arden VIsta DrIve to Arden VIsta Court.
HIcks moved, seconded by Rauenhorst, that Council authorize
Lynden to determine publIc benefIt and to commence condemnatIon
for road purposes.
In further dIscussIon, Lynden noted that the CIty may have
to JoIn In the plat; noted that costs of the condemnatIon are
agaInst the developer (part of project costs). HIcks noted
that he would not be In favor of the motIon If. the City has
to bear the cost of the proceedIngs. MIller noted that the
plat Is based on the Comprehensive Development Plan, whIch
Identifies a collector In thIs area where It connects to
exIstIng Arden View DrIve.
ChristIansen asked If alternate routes have been explored to
connect Arden VIew DrIve to SnellIng Avenue; saId he feels
there are other alternatIves for thIs road, not necessarIly
as proposed.
Miller explaIned that engIneering and topography Indicate thIs
Is where the road belongs; explaIned that followIng a prop~rty
lIne Is what Is normally done; noted that needed ReIlIng r.o.w.
can be reduced by movIng the road to the south. Needed ReI lIng
r.o.w. would be Increased If road Is moved to the north.
HIcks amended hIs motIon to add, contIngent upon Council
approval of the PrelimInary Plat of Royal Hilts North. MotIon
on amendment was seconded by Ra uenhorst a nd carr I ed. (H I c ks, .
Rauenhorst, Mulcahy, Woodburn votIng In favor of the motIon;
ChristIansen votIng In opposItIon. (4-1)
Amended motIon carrIed. (Hicks, Rauenhorst, Mulcahy, Woodburn
voting In favor; ChrIstiansen votIng In oppositIon.) (4-1)
Case No. 83-13, PrelImInary Plat of McClung ThIrd AddItIon -
John McClung
A transparency of the PrelimInary Plat of McClung ThIrd
AddItion was shown. MIller noted that the plat Is dependent
upon the approval of Royal HI I Is North, for access; noted that
the PrelImInary Plat could be approved contingent upon approval
of the Royal HIlls North Plat, but he Is reluctant to recommend
approval because of the unknowns In the Royal HIlls North Plat.
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Page Three
Hicks moved, seconded by Rauenhorst, to table actIon on the
Preliminary Plat of McClung Third AddItion. Motion carrIed
unanImously. (5-0)
Case No. 84-2, Minor Subdivision - Gary Rlppentrop
Miller revIewed the proposed spl It of Outlot A, ValentIne Lake
View No.3, and consolIdatIon of the two portIons with Lot 6
and Lot 7, ValentIne Lake VIew. CouncIl was referred to a
transparency of the proposed lot spl It and consolidation and
to the MInutes of the Planning CommissIon Meeting (2-1-84)
and Planning Memo (1-20-84).
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Hicks moved, seconded by Mulcahy, that Council approve the lot
spilt and consolidation (minor subdivision) as proposed.
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Case No. 84-1, Amended SpecIal Use PermIt - Mounds View HIQh
School
MIller reported that a publIc hearing was held by the Planning
CommIssIon on February 1st; reported the Commission's recom-
mendation Is for Council approval of an Amended SpecIal Use
Permit for construction of the gymnasium, and for the future
addItions In accordance with the overall site plan, with the
contIngencies listed In the Minutes of 2-1-84.
Architect Bill Martin Introduced Paul Donley and John Ostrand
(MVHS) and John Torseth (ATS & R). MartIn presented large
scale drawings of the proposed gym structure and Indicated Its
relationship to the existIng school building. MartIn descrIbed
the exterior to be of brIck, matching the exIsting school
exterior; explained the hIgher mass of the gymnasium Is at 30'
and lower portions at 12'. The Interior of the gymnasium was
described to be of paInted concrete block with acoustical
panels; the proposed gymnasium wi I I have no spectator space;
wll I be used strictly for phy. ed. and practice.
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Miller noted that one of the Planning Commission's recommended
contingencIes of approval Is resolution of the water availability
problem, which Is a dead-end water lIne. It was explained
that. the Fire ChIef feels a hydrant Is needed.south of the
building. Miller noted that landscapIng of the parking area
along County Road F Is also recommended as a contingency of
approval, wIth plan approval prIor to occupancy.
A sketch of the area, IndIcatIng possIbilitIes for another
water connection point was Indicated on County Road F, west of
the school with a lIne to a hydrant south of the buildIng;
two alternate routes from Gramsle Road were also noted, both
of whIch require easements.
John Torseth saId the PlannIng CommIssion expressed concern
relatIve to the boiler room access to the courtyard. Torseth
explaIned that the Fire ChIef sees no problems for fIre fightIng
If doors through the arcade are keyed for fIre department use.
Torseth said the landscaping wll I be resolved with the PlannIng
CommissIon/Planner; noted that the school wants to screen the
parking area, but It also has a safety concern for drivers
coming out onto County Road F; suggested this may also be a
pol Ice concern, but feels It can be resolved satisfactorily.
Torseth explained that the BuildIng Inspector and Fire Chief
have requested a hydrant at the rear of the building; options
are from County Road F (west of building), two points on Gramsle
Road, or across the athletic field to Falrvlew; noted that their
choice Is to Gramsle Road. Torseth explained that the existing
road at the east and south of the buIlding Is proposed to be
extended to the southwest of the building, so fire trucks will
have access to the rear of the buildIng.
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Engineer Christoffersen explaIned the loop system, which would
be a connection from Gramsle Road to a hydrant at the rear of
the school and a connection at County Road F, northwest of the
school. Christoffersen said some fire flow tests were conducted;
feels a hIgher fIre flow Is required than we have In thIs
location; said he feels something must be done to get a better
fire flow In the high sChool area, which Is now a dead-end
system; noted you get more water from a loop than from a one-
way system; explained that the Arden Hills water system was
not designed with Mounds View HIgh School In mind (annexed from
New Brighton).
Mulcahy suggested that the problem of water avaIlabilIty Is
for the SChool to resolve; should not be a contIngency of
Council approval of the gymnasium construction; would lIke to
see the prOblem decided by the school distrIct and the
suggestions come from the school district.
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Woodburn explained that the school apparently cannot resolve
the water connection to Gramsle Road wIthout the City's help
In getting the necessary easement(s).
Miller noted that the Planning CommIssIon recommends no new
constructIon until the water problem Is resolved. Miller
noted that whIle the gymnasium does not Increase the fire danger
on the sIte, the PlannIng CommissIon feels the water problem
should be resolved,
Rauenhorst asked what the motIvatIon would be to resolve the
water problem If not made contingent upon occupancy of the
buildIng. Mulcahy said It Is the responsIbility of the school
distrIct; If the school wants the CIty to do something, we'll
listen; feels the City should not design the system.
Paul Donley explained that the school's concern Is the fIre
safety of the building; feel we are under-protected and we want
to correct It. Donley said we are also concerned about the cost;
want to provide the up-graded system at the lowest possible
cost; feel a loop Is not necessary; but the school needs the
CIty's help to get a second source of water from Gramsie Road
(not necessarily a loop). Donley saId they are concerned about
tyIng the resolutIon of the water system to buildIng occupancy;
feel the buildIng and water system can be on separate time
schedules; noted that obtaining easements can be time-consumIng.
In discussion, Woodburn noted that the Fire Chief has required
a hydrant; has not Indicated a flow rate; suggested the building
could be approved with a hydrant as Indicated.
John Torseth saId they propose completion of the gym by the
fall of '84; anticIpated about a month construction for the
water connection, would have to determine whether we can get
the necessary easements at least by July.
Mulcahy moved that Councl I approve an amended SpecIal Use
Permit for Mounds VIew High School approving the master plan
and construction of the gymnasium, contingent upon the
following:
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1. RevIew and approval of a landscape plan by the
PlannIng CommIssIon and Council.
2. Occupancy of the gymnasium to be contIngent upon
a satisfactory progress report concerning adequate
water availabIlity for fire protection.
3. Approval of the boiler room access by the Fire ChIef.
Motion was seconded by Hicks.
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After further dIscussion, Hicks moved to delete revIew of the
landscape plan by the Planning Commission and Council,
substituting approval by City Planner, prior to buIlding
occupancy. Amendment was seconded by Mulcahy and carried
unanimously. (5-0)
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Original motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Proposed Waste Enerqy Plant In New Brighton
Council was referred to letter from New Brighton Planner Krueger
and to the recommendation of the Arden Hills Planning Commission.
Miller briefly descrIbed the proposed waste energy plant; noted
construction of steam lines In Arden HII Is, to serve Mlnneapol Is
Hide and Tallow, may be considered an encouragement for the
contInued operation of a non-conforming use.
After a brIef discussion, Councl I concurred to communicate Its
concerns to Bob Curtis to represent the Interests of Arden Hills
at the New Brighton contInued publIc hearing on February 21st.
REPORT OF VILLAGE ENGINEER DONALD CHRISTOFFERSEN
Request to Ramsey County for Variance from Master Street Plan -
Woodbrldqe Properties
CouncIl was referred to letter from Woodbridge Properties to
County EngIneer (2-7-84) requesting a variance from the Major
Street Plan.
Hicks moved, seconded by Rauenhorst, that Council supports the
request to the County from WoodbrIdge Properties for a varIance.
Motion carried unanImously. (5-0)
Approve Final Payment and Accept Red Fox Road Sanitary Sewer
Impr. No. SS-83-2
Christiansen moved, seconded by Mulcahy to accept Red Fox Road
Sanitary Sewer Improvement No. SS-83-2, and to approve Final
Payment to H.B.H. ConstructIon, Inc. in the amount of $1,093.00.
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Park Dedication - J.L.N. Development Co., 1315 Red Fox Road
Council was referred to Zehm's memo (2-10-84) re Interpretation
of OrdInance 175 as It relates to re-developed land.
Rauenhorst moved, seconded by HIcks, that Ordinance No. 175
does not apply to the J.L.N. Development Co. since It Is a
re-development of property at 1315 Red Fox Road. Motion
carried unanimously. (5-0)
Request to Support Minnesota Meadows Location for MetropolItan
Race Track
(no action taken)
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Solar Bank Deferred Loan Program - MN Housing Finance Agency
(no action taken)
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Comm I tte~-1J~~J~.E!'...~-Po 1 ntments
Mayor Woodburn made the followIng 1984 appointments:
- FInance Committee
- Ramsey County League of
Local Governments
- Cable CommunicatIon CitIzen
Advisory Committee
- PublIc Safety CommIttee
- Newsletter Committee
- Joint FIre Protection Board
Rauenhorst
Rauenhorst
Christiansen
Rauenhorst
Rauenhorst
RepresentatIve
Alternate
Christiansen
Woodburn
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- North Suburban Cable Commission
Representative
Alternate
Bauer
Woodburn
- Civil Defense and Energy Director
- R.C.W.D. Citizen's 509 Task Force
Johansen
(A notice to be placed In the Town CrIer advising of the vacancy
for appointment of citIzen representatIve to the Rice Creek
Watershed, CItIzen's 509 Task Force.)
Moto.!'~eh-'sJ~_Sound Meter Progr_am - League of MN CItIes
Rauenhorst moved, seconded by Hicks, that Council authorize
partIcIpation In the 1984 Motor Vehicle Sound Meter Program
at a cost of about $50. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Other BusIness
Ea<:jle Scout, DavId Reid, 1545 McClung Drive
Mulcahy reported that David Reid wIll receive the Eagle Scout
award at an Eagle Scout Court of Honor on Monday, February 20th.
Hicks moved, seconded by Rauenhorst, that Council adopt
Resolution No. 84-5, RESOLUTION CONGRATULATING DAVID REID FOR
ATTAINING THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT, which Mulcahy wi II present
to David ReId. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
JO<:jgers
Mulcahy reported concern from several residents that joggers
cannot be seen by automobIle drIvers; reported several near
accidents recently.
Council concurred that the Town CrIer Include a note to joggers,
advising them of the proble~
Ma rch 7th P I ~ n-"J_!IlL CommJ ss I o.n._.M_e.e!JJlg,
Hicks reported that he will not be able to attend the March
Planning Commission Meeting.
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Christiansen wIll attend as liaIson.
Water to Arsenal
Woodburnr:eported that he wll I meet with Engineer Christoffersen
and Mr. Oster on Thursday morning, February 16th, at 9:00 a.m.
re water service to the arsenal.
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REPORT OF VILLAGE CLERK ADMINISTRATOR CHARLOTTE McNIESH
Approval to Participate In Automation of ElectIon Records
Council was referred to letter from City of White Bear Lake,
and attachment thereto listIng proportioned costs for 18 Ramsey
County municipalities' participation In the proposed automation
of election records.
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Rauenhorst moved, seconded by Christiansen, that CouncIl approve
Arden Hills' participatIon, end authorIze McNlesh to execute the
AuthorizatIon Form. MotTon carried unanImously. (5-0)
Revenue_.2!l.9.LJ~Hand I capped R~~.I at IE.M.
Council was referred to draft of City of Arden Hills Notlce-
Revenue Sharing Handicapped Regulations.
Council concurred wIth the Notice and authorized publIcation
as drafted.
MunlcIBJ....J:_aucus - 1984 Dues
Hicks moved, seconded by Rauenhorst,
payment of the 1984 dues of $200.00.
(5-0)
that CouncIl approve
MotIon carried unanimously.
ApprOvjlJ_oLl<_etall Sales LIcense
Hicks moved, seconded by Christiansen, that Council approve the
1984 Retail Sales License for Tasha's Treasures. Motion carried
unanimously. (5-0)
Claims
ChristIansen moved, seconded by Hicks, that Council approve the
Claims, as submitted. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
1984 MInnesota PesticIde Ap~lEat~r Tralnln~: Horticulture
and Shade Trees
Councl I was referred to Buckley's memo (2-10-84).
Christiansen moved, seconded by Hicks, that Council authorize
the attendance of Dave Winkel and Fred Bell at the University
of Minnesota Seminar on March 8th at a cost of $20.00/person.
Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
Adjournment
Christiansen moved, seconded by Mulcahy, that the Meeting
adjourn at 11:02 p.m. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
(lJ~~dt!J~J
Charlotte McNlesh
Clerk AdminIstrator
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obert L. Woodburn
Mayor
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Notice of Meetln~
The next Regular Council Meeting will be held on Monday,
February 27, 1984 at 7:30 p.m. at the Village Hall.