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MINUTES OF THE ARDEN HILLS WORKSESSION COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1990 - 4:30 P.M., CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor
Sather called the meeting to order at 4:30 PM_
. ROLL CALL The roll being called, the following members
were present: Mayor Thomas Sather,
Councilmembers JoAnn Growe, Nancy Hansen, Thomas Mahowald and
Paul Malone. Also present: City Engineer Terry Maurer, city
Attorney Jerry Filla, Public Works Supervisor Dan winkel, Park
Director John Buckley, city Treasurer Frank Green, City
Administrator Gary Berger, and Administrative Secretary Mary Ann
Hillyer. Mr. and Mrs. Mark Magers and their attorney Carol Ryden
were also in attendance for the Keithson Pond discussion.
INVESTMENT POLICY Treasurer Frank Green was present to review
his proposed investment policy. He stated
that it may be time to formalize investing and felt that staff
and the Finance Committee should review the policy to address all
areas and agree on wording for a reasonable objective and come
forward with recommendations for the City council. Councilmember
Hansen commented that an investment policy is very timely and
needed and this appears to be a good way to start and has her
support. Treasurer Green, in response to a question from
Administrator Berger, noted that the proposed policy is modeled
from the Municipal Treasurer's Association.
council concensus was to pass the policy to the Finance Committee
for recommendations which will be available in January, 1991-
. COMMITTEES Mayor Sather commented that perhaps now would
be a good time to consider putting the various
committees together as an Ad-Hoc committee on an "as needed"
basis. He expressed disappointment with the Planning commission
and Board of Appeals and their recent lack of a quorum to conduct
business, as this holds up applicants and does not reflect
positively on the city. Since these are statutory committees,
they should be sure to have a quorum at all times to conduct
business. The "convenient" committees (Public Safety/Works,
Finance, city Hall, Human Rights, Park & Rec, Economic
Development Committee, etc.) could be combined to form an ad-hoc
committee which could serve as needed, rather than on a monthly
basis.
Councilmember Hansen suggested increasing the number of
alternates to the Board of Appeals. It was felt that having the
same. people on the Planning commission as on the Board of Appeals
was not fair to the applicants if their case was denied by the
Board of Appeals.
Mayor Sather suggested that a stipend be paid to the Planning
commission members if they miss no more than two meetings per
year and also if they take some formal training sponsored by the
League of Minnesota cities or Government Training Service, which
. the city will pay for, and that they will be able to attend ,
on-going training as it becomes available in the future.
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October 22, 1990 Worksession Minutes, Page Two
. Staff was directed to research training materials and times
available. Committee liaisons are to ask their members what they
would like to become more active in.
Hansen noted that the Public Safety/Works Committee should fold
and be an ad-hoc committee. Mahowald felt that the Park and
Recreation Committee could hold quarterly meetings, rather than
monthly.
Mayor Sather suggested that department heads construct things
that need to be done for Council and present these items to the
various committees. Liaisons should poll their committees to see
what the major focuses are for 1991 and advise council in late
November or early December, before Committee lists are prepared
for the first meeting in January, 1991-
ASSESSMENT MANUAL City Engineer Maurer was present for dis-
cussion on the draft assessment manual his
firm had prepared for council review. Councilmember Malone noted
that everything that had been asked for previously was included
in this policy. Malone reviewed his comments and concerns on
several pages in the manual, noting a typo in the fourth line of
the first paragraph on page 1. Malone suggested the following
changes:
. Page 8 - last sentence of (m) should read "other than" instead of
"less than" two times the standard rate. Page 11 - 5. Corner
Lots, there should be a comma in the fourth line after the first
long side. In the last sentence of the first paragraph under 5,
the "l5" year period should be corrected to read "5" year
period. Page 14 (2a) , the last sentence should be eliminated.
On page 29, Malone noted that the Finance Committee recommended
the following under VIII, l, e, 2 for Street Lighting: They
call for assessing installation costs and billing operating
expenses. In general, we should assess the installation costs of
all ornamental lights and of any other lights beyond those shown
in our street lighting plan. Operating costs of lights of any
type beyond our plan should be billed, but this should be a
separate policy.
Page 30 (g) recycling should be added per Ramsey County.
Page 32 - the percentages assessed should be 50% residential and
70% commercial. .
Councilmember Hansen commented on the good job Engineer Maurer
had done on the manual and Maurer was directed to make the above
minor changes and come back with a final draft for the November
13 Council meeting.
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October 22, 1990 Worksession Minutes, Page Three
WATER TOWER Engineer Maurer reviewed the water tower study
STUDY noting that only two or three issues were
. significant. He noted that the system is
actually in pretty good shape, but that the report ignored the
Arsenal property. Maurer noted three areas in the line that are
short of pressure. They are Round Lake, the area around Mounds
View High School, and part of the Roseville connection on Hamline
Avenue. There is 800 feet of 12 inch section in this area.
Maurer suggested three ways to fill the water tower to capacity:
l. Build a booster station at the Arden HillsjRoseville border.
This would be very expensive.
2. Build a booster station at County Road E. Maurer felt this
would not accomplish much.
3. The most reasonable method would be to remodel the existing
lift station and expand the building. He proposed one pump,
not two, and upgrade the controls at the existing station and
replace the pumps.
Mayor Sather noted that Maurer should formulate a list of
chronological order and come back to Council with this
information. Hansen thanked Maurer for the good job he did with
the water tower study.
. KEITH SON POND Engineer Maurer reviewed the drawing of
Keithson Pond. Attorney Filla noted that the
pond was reconfigured in October, 1987, and there was no great
discussion on an outlet for the pond. Maurer noted the pond is
presently not doing the job. The question is what needs to be
done to the pond to make it work. Maurer suggested pumping it
from time to time, with a long term solution being a positive
outlet to the southwest as part of a City drainage plan.
Mayor Sather asked what a short-term solution would be. Maurer
responded that the pond would need to be shaped and expanded in
the easement area and to dig the hole deeper.
Attorney Filla stated in order to obtain an easement from George
Reiling, the City must:
l. Establish that this is a public improvement.
2. Council must authorize a portion of Reiling's property for
condemnation_
3. City must construct the project and outlet.
From start to finish, Filla estimated a six month or longer time
frame.
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October 22, 1990 Worksession Minutes, Page Four
KEITHSON con'd Mauer is to get the numbers on the water run-
. off for storage and will try to get soil boring
numbers from SEH. Filla is to investigate the possibility of
obtaining an easement from Reiling for an outlet.
Councilmember Mahowald suggested that a separate account should
be established for these costs.
Mr. Mark Magers, 4521 Keithson Drive, owner of Lot 4 of this
plat, stated he has waited a long time to have this matter
resolved and he is now hearing the same things he heard in July.
He stated he does not want to lose any more trees on his property
due to the pond water.
Staff was directed to obtain copies of the bond release and the
date the project was completed from SEH, as well as the date of
closing and the purchase agreement from Mr. Magers. Engineer
Maurer will obtain numbers on the percolation of the soil.
Carol Ryden, attorney for the Magers family, requested that all
parties be notified when the Keithson Pond topic will be
discussed again. city Administrator Berger stated he will notify
her in writing when this will take place again, noting that this
was scheduled for discussion on October 29, at 6:30 PM, but that
after this evening's discussion, there will not be any definite
answers available on the 29th. Therefore, the October 29 Council
. meeting will begin at 7:30 PM.
MISCELLANEOUS Councilmember Mahowald advised the council
that he will not be able to attend the October
29 Council meeting, since he will be out of town.
ADJOURN councilmember Growe moved, seconded by
Councilmember Mahowald, to adjourn the
meeting at 6:55 PM. Motion carried unanimously (5-0) .
Gary R. Berger Thomas R. Sather
city Administrator Mayor
NOTICE OF MEETING
The next regular Council meeting will be held on Monday, October
29, 1990, at 7:30 P.M. at city Hall.
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