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MINUTES
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOT A
PLANNING COMMISSION
. WEDNESDAY, JULY 9, 2003
7:00 P.M. - ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
Chair David Sand called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present were Commissioners Clayton Larson, Ken Bezdicek, Megan Ricke, Clayton
Zimmerman, and Chair David Sand.
Absent: Elizabeth Modesette and Cathy Smithknecht.
Also present were Director of Community Services Aaron Parrish, City Planner Peter
Rellegers, and Recording Secretary Robin Leslie.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON
JUNE 4, 2003
. Commissioner Zimmerman requested the following corrections: Page 3, first paragraph
under item C, ehange Diaz to dais. Page 4, the last sentence should read: "The motion
carried (4-2) (Commissioners Larson and Zimmerman against). Page 5, first paragraph,
change repair to repaired. maintained.
Commissioner Bezdicek moved, seconded by Commissioner Larson, to approve the June
4,2003 minutes as amended above. The motion carried unanimously (5-0).
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. PLANNING CASE #03-16 - DAVID AND MARTHA DOBRATZ, 1440 INDIAN
OAKS TRAIL, VARIANCE
Chair Sand opened the public hearing at 7:03 p.m.
Mr. Hellegers stated the public notice was published in the Arden Hills-Shoreview
Bulletin and was mailed out to all property owners within 350 feet of the subject property.
Mr. Hellegers explained the applicants were requesting an IS-foot variance from the rear
yard setback. The variance would allow construction of a 6-foot addition to the current
deck and allow the applicants to construct a pergola, which would have removable
screens to provide a bug-free area on their deck. The proposed deck, with extension,
. would bring the deck to within twelve feet of the southem property line. The southern
property line abuts a heavily wooded area on the northem edge of Floral Park. Mr.
Hellegers presented staff's analysis of the request and stated that staff recommended the
request for an IS-foot variance to the minimum rear setback be approved.
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. Chair Sand questioned the zoning ordinance requirement regarding permanent
encroachments into setbacks. The zoning ordinance states encroachments may extend
three feet into the required setback for decks and in no case the setback is to be no less
than six feet. Re questioned the fact the existing deck is already encroaching more than
three feet and now the applicant wants to make the encroachment worse.
Mr. Hellegers stated that was correct and that the house is 30-feet from the property line.
The existing deck is l2-feet from the property line and the applicant is requesting an
additional six-feet of encroachment. The situation was created by the builder of the home
by building the home so close to the east property line and the wooded area. The rear of
the property is abutted by 29-feet oftree cover and no cover is planned to be removed.
Staff considered moving deck to the west but there is a tuck under garage, which would
pose problems. The applicant wants to add a pergola to maintain the amenity of a deck so
close to the woods, but because of the mosquitoes, it needs to be enclosed. Tn effect, the
request increases the non-conforming area but grants the property owner more buildable
area.
Commissioner Ricke questioned ifthere would be any trees removed in this process. Mr.
Rellegers stated that would not be the case.
Commissioner Zimmerman asked if the 30-foot setback was established when the house
. was built and if the deck was constructed at that time or later. Mr. Hellegers stated he
was unaware of any variance for the current deck and was not sure when it was
constructed. This could be verified by checking the building permit and he was not
certain of which zoning ordinance applied.
Commissioner Zimmerman commented that the Planning Commission is continually
running into items like this. If the original ordinance requirements are not known, it is
difficult to make decisions.
Mr. Rellegers replied that information is cross-referenced, but many files prior to I980
have been damaged or destroyed. There is no variance indicated for this property and staff
can review the building file for a deck permit.
Commissioner Ricke questioned if any other neighbors commented besides those in the
packet. Mr. Hellegers answered there were no further comments.
Commissioner Larson noted the front deck must have built at the same time as the house
due to the nature of cantilever. When the deck was built it was in violation and the
hardship was created by the original owner. Re also noted that number five of the report
stated other properties have similar issues with but number one stated the circumstances
are unique to the property.
. Commissioner Zimmerman questioned if there was anything in the park and trail
comprehensive plan that would eause park to move closer to this property.
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Mr. Hellegers stated he spoke to the park operations director and he acknowledged there
. were no plans.
Mr. Pamsh stated in the original building permit there was no indication of a deck permit.
Commissioner Zimmerman asked if that meant there was no permit issued. Mr. Parrish
replied that they were not sure and that the City may not have required permits then or it
is not uncommon to have people put up decks without permits. In addition, the City
contracted for building inspection services at that time and retained limited records.
Chair Sand invited anyone for or against the variance request to come forward and make
comment.
David Dobratz, 1440 Indian Oaks Trail, addressed the issue of the date ofthe deck
construction by stating he was pretty certain the deck was built at the same time as the
house due to the nature of the cantilevered joists, but could follow up with the original
owner, Phillip Anderson. He also stated the original property was his lot and the lot to the
east. When his home was built, the home to the east was not there and at some time Mr.
Anderson split the lots and built the second home to the east. He also wanted to make it
known that something must be done with the current deck because of its age and
condition. He would like to utilize the woods but the bugs limit that, therefore, the need
for the screened-in pergola.
. Chair Sand questioned Mr. Dobratz ifhe considered the option of moving the deck to the
west. Mr. Dobratz replied they did not consider the west side because of neighborhood
site lines.
Chair Sand stated there is a lot of room on the western part ofthe property and has a
difficult time considering making a non-conforming use worse when there is an option to
the west.
Mr. Dobratz stated if they went to the west it would disturb the visual lines for the
neighbors to the west and across the street.
Commissioner Larson questioned if the property owner came to the building department
to rebuild the deck, what would be the action in relation to the encroachment if building
in the exact location.
Mr. Hellegers stated the application would be reviewed by the building inspector and
because the deck is appurtenance to the principle structure it would be dealt with as a
non-conforming use. If less than 50 percent is removed or da111aged, the applicant would
be granted a building permit to replace the deck using the existing footprint.
Chair Sand commented the applicant already has a deck encroaching and wants to
. encroach further. He stated he believes the applicant has not made enough effort to
accommodate the option to the west.
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Commissioner Ricke explained these homes are incredibly buffered and this was a unique
. circumstance with the 29- feet of woods. She stated for aesthetic reasons and for the
neighborhood, the best location for the deck is at the rear of the property.
Commissioner Zimmerman stated if the applicant wanted to replace the existing deck the
Planning Commission would still need to issue a variance if built to the west.
Mr. Hellegers replied that was correct and a variance would be required if extending the
non-conforming deck to the east or west.
Chair Sand closed the public hearing at 7:54 p.m.
Chair Sand stated he was having trouble balancing the various issues and it would be a
tough call.
Commissioner Larson moved to recommend denial of Planning Case #03-I6, David and
Martha Dobratz, I440 Indian Oaks Trail, for an I8-foot variance to the minimum rear
setback.
The motion failed due to a lack of a second.
Commissioner Bezdicek moved, seconded by Commissioner Ricke, to recommend
. approval of Planning Case #03-16, David and Martha Dobratz, 1440 Indian Oaks Trail,
for an 18- foot variance to the minimum rear setback.
The motion carried (4- I Commissioner Larson against).
Commissioner Larson stated he was not in favor ofthe variance. The reasons he stated
were that it was increasing a non-conforming use; there is area to the west to build; the
situation was created by the original owner; and the Planning Commission may be setting
a dangerous precedent by using park in lieu of setback area.
This Planning Case will be reviewed at the Monday, July 28, 2003, City Council meeting.
PLANNING CASE # 03-17 -PATRICIA BEAUDRY, 1860 GLENPAUL AVENUE-
VARIANCE
Chair Sand opened the public hearing at 8:00 p.m.
Mr. Hellegers stated the public notice was published in the Arden Hills-Shoreview
Bulletin and was mailed out to all property owners within 350 feet of the subject property.
Mr. Hellegers explained that the applicant is requesting a variance to allow construction
of a garage five feet from the west property line. Mr. Hellegers presented staffs analysis
. of the request and stated staff recommended the variance request of five feet for the side
yard interior setback be approved.
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Chair Sand questioned if staff had heard from other neighbors. Mr. Hellegers stated he
. received one phone call and the letter the Planning Commission received tonight in favor
of the project.
Commissioner Zimmerman questioned what precipitated the variance ifthe old garage
was already five-feet from the property line.
Mr. Hellegers stated this situation is different from the deck because the deck was
appurtenant to the principle structure. In this case, the applicant is removing more tha11
fifty percent of the structure and therefore requires a variance.
Commissioner Larson stated instead of working on variances the City should work on
recodifying the Zoning Ordinance because of all of the side yard setbacks being granted.
Chair Sand questioned ifthe garage were attached to the house it would require a five-
foot setback, but because it is detached, it requires 10-feet. He stated he agrees with
Commissioner Larson's comments.
Mr. Hellegers stated staff has been looking at recodifying the Zoning Ordinance for some
time because it has been a problem. Staff is currently reviewing it and it may be ready at
the next meeting. Action could be taken at the September meeting and then it would be
forwarded to the City Council for final approval. It would then take affect 30 days after
. publication.
Commissioner Larson questioned if the City changed the code would the variance be
rescinded and off the books.
Commissioner Zimmerman explained that whatever the zoning ordinance is at the time of
the application and the variance would remain.
Chair Sand invited anyone for or against the variance to come forward and make
comment.
Patty Beaudry, 1860 G1enpaul A venue, asked ifthe ordinance was changed would her
application fee be refunded and that she cannot move the garage farther to the rear
because of the cottonwood tree.
Mr. Parrish stated because the cost of mailings, publications and staff time have already
been expended, there would be no refund.
Chair Sand closed the public hearing at 8:I5 p.m.
Commissioner Zimmerman moved, seconded by Commissioner Ricke, to recommend
approval of Planning Case #03-I 7, Patricia Beaudry, I860 Glenpaul Avenue, for a five-
. foot side yard interior setback variance.
The motion carried unanimously (5-0).
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This Planning Case will be reviewed at the Monday, July 28,2003, City Council meeting.
. UNFINISHED AND NEW BUSINESS
None
REPORTS
A. Planning Commissioners
None
B. Staff
Staff updated the Planning Commission on the progress of the recodification ofthe
Zoning Ordinance and on developments in the City.
C. Council Member
None
ADJOURNMENT
. Commissioner Zimmerman moved, seconded by Commissioner Larson, to adjoum the
meeting at 9:05 p.m. The motion carried unanimously (5-0).
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