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ARDEN HILLS
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PARKS, TRAILS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2004 7:00 P.M.
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Henry called the February 24,2004 meeting of the Parks, Trails and Recreation Committee
to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Bill Henry, Committee Members Jim Crassweller, Don
Messerly, Rich Straummlli, Joanie Werner and Steve Zilmer.
OTHERS PRESENT: Tom Moore, Director of Operations & Maintenance; Michelle Olson,
Parks and Recreation Supervisor; Brenda Holden, Council Liaison; Tim McIlwain, HCM; and
Bonita Sullivan, Recording Secretary.
MEMBERS NOT PRESENT: Committee Members Roberta Thompson
. APPRO V AL OF AGENDA
The Agenda was approved by consensus.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
. Approve January 27,2004 Minutes
Council Liaison Holden clarified that the Council approved the feasibility study.
Chair Henry referenced the Parks and Recreation Update and clarified that the third bullet is in
reference to the County Road E Bridge and Trail Project. Mr. Moore confirmed that it is.
Mr. Moore noted, for the record, that Committee Member Crassweller is in attendance.
MOTION: Committee Member Crassweller motioned, seconded by Committee Member
Zilmer to approve the January 27,2004 minutes as amended. The motion carried
unanimously.
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. 3. HCM Presentation on Perry Park Picnic Shelter
Tim McIlwain, HCM provided the Committee with an update on the Charles Perry Park Shelter
as follows:
. Received the survey information from URS and reviewed the results with the Committee.
. Presently working to integrate the building utilizing the prairie style design for the
structure.
. Provided the Committee with an overview of the layout and floor plan for the building.
. Reviewed the visibility and views from the building.
. Reviewed the landscaping noting that there would always be visual eye contact to the
playgrounds from the building.
Committee Member Crassweller clarified two items, first that the measurements are based on
feet and second, that they are proposing to remove a pine trees from the area. Mr. McIlwain
confirmed noting that the tree they are proposing to remove is already dead.
MOTION: Committee Member Crassweller motioned, seconded by Committee Member
. Zilmer to approve the removal of the dead pine tree at Charles Perry Park. The
motion carried unanimously.
. Mr. McIlwain indicated that there would be room for eleven picnic tables, noting that the
tables would be provided and installed separately by the City.
. He referenced the preliminary elevations, stating that they are starting to delineate the
materials that were discussed during the master plan phase. He noted that the Committee
had indicated that they wanted materials similar to what was used at Tony Schmidt Park
but warmer, with a different feel.
. He provided the Committee with examples of the bricking and woods that would be used,
noting the deep reds.
. He stated that they are proposing that the bulk of the building would be done in brick, as
well as, the base and utilize the richness of the wood by bringing it into the piers, ceilings
and gable ends.
. He indicated that the roofwould be a standard, shingled roof in a timberline similar to
cedar shake.
. He reviewed the service window areas with the Committee. He noted that they would use
items such as epoxy floors, paint, and stainless steel for any items that could be damaged
or stolen, such as the sinks, toilets and floors.
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. Mr. McIlwain stated what he would like to do, going forward and if the Committee likes what
they see, would be to prepare a design development package for Council review and approval.
He noted that the packet would include 3-D renderings for the layouts of the park and park
building and if approved, provide the construction documents to begin the bid process, with the
intent that construction would begin in the spring.
Mr. Moore referenced the site plan, A-I, lower left corner, stating that it references the electrical
panel. He explained that this is for providing power to the fields. He reviewed the sanitary
sewer noting that it would run along tile west side of New Brighton Road and include
improvements made at Lift Station 2. He explained that they would do a directional bore from
the building, down the hill and into a manhole. He further explained that this option would save
a considerable amount of money and reviewed with the Commission. He stated that their goal is
to have a trail up from Swamp Lift Road to the park. He stated that the Arden Hills O&M Staff
would install the water line adding that with the proposed option they would not have to tear up
the parking lot and reviewed with the Committee. He stated that they would create there own fire
hydrant in addition to having service to the building that would provide both hot and cold water
with drinking fountains outside the building. He noted that all of the electrical lighting would be
on automatic, digitally controlled sensors and timers.
MOTION: Committee Member Crassweller motioned, seconded by Committee Member
. Messerly to approve and recommend that HCM provide the necessary plans for
City Council review and approval. The motion carried unanimously.
4. COUNCIL UPDATE
Council Liaison Holden provided the Committee with a City Council update:
. Council reviewed a presentation from Centex on housing styles.
. City is working on several law enforcement issues and reviewed with the Committee.
. Council discussed the street signs, noting that the City is looking to place 896 signs, one
on each corner.
. She stated that she provided Council with the information from the Roseville Historical
Society presentation. She stated that they are very open to the idea and reviewed the
Council discussion with the Committee.
5. PARKS AND RECREATION UPDATES
Tom Moore - Park Update
Mr. Moore provided the Committee with an update on the Park activities. He reviewed the
following items:
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. A. Bridl!:e on County Road E
Mr. Moore provided the Committee with the information packet he presented to Council for their
review. He stated that he presented three options to the Council for their consideration, noting
that Council decided to move forward with Option B. He explained that Option B involves
replacing the existing bridge, the north sidewalk and rail, shift the roadway center line to the
north, narrow traffic lanes from IS-feet to 14-feet and construct a 7-foot walkway along the side
of bridge. He stated that the estimated costs for the construction would be $80,000.
Chair Henry asked how far out the cantilever would be. Mr. Moore stated that the cantilever
would go out approximately 13 inches.
Mr. Moore reviewed the three options presented with the Committee, noting that currently they
have $150,000 in the CIP budget that would more than cover the costs of the project. He
reviewed the following with the Committee:
. Option B will cost $80,000
. The bituminous trail, west from the Bridge to Lindy's triangle would cost approximately
$55,000.
. Only item they have not decided on yet is the decorative railing. They will present
. options to Council for consideration as they closer to the beginning of the project.
. The project has received favorable response from the Council adding that URS will begin
to move forward.
. He stated that several communications would occur with residents in the area and within
the Community. Neighborhood meetings would be scheduled in addition to various
mailings to the neighborhood and Community.
. Ramsey County has blessed the project, as has MnDOT.
. Authorized plans and specifications should be available for bid in April with
Construction to begin in August and a projected end date by the beginning of October.
Committee Member Crassweller clarified that the traffic lanes would be narrowed from IS-feet
down to 14-feet. Mr. Moore confirmed, stating that Ramsey County has approved the proposal.
He assured the Committee that it would not greatly affect the traffic flow in the area and
reviewed.
Chair Henry clarified that the walkway would be elevated and separated by the curb. Mr. Moore
confirmed that the curb would separate the walkway from traffic. He noted that they had wanted
to install railing along the outside but that it is not a high-speed area and the railing would not be
required. He indicated that, depending upon the bid amounts and wbether the City Council and
. PTRC approve the final plan, they might consider installing a railing between the walkway and
traffic.
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Mr. Moore stated that he would keep the Committee updated noting that this is a very positive
and huge project for the City as it serves a large number of the surrounding neighborhoods and
Communities in addition, with would resolve the safety issues.
B. Xcel Enefl!V - Clear Cuttin!! Floral Park & Surroundin!! Area
Mr. Moore stated that Xcel Energy would be in the area clear cutting. He reviewed their policies
noting that it states that they can clear cut in any of their easements, throughout the State of
Minnesota. He indicated that it is their plan to clear cut everything in the easements including
any branches from a trees outside the easement that extend out over their easement. He stated
that the branches would be cut back to the trunk of the tree. He stated that City Staff and Xcel
have walked and talked the area with the homeowners adding that they homeowners are aware
that they would be in the area working. He stated that they would also spray a growth retardant
within the easement so that nothing will grow in that area. He stated that he wanted the
Committee to be aware adding that Floral Park would be impacted significantly by the clearing
and reviewed with the Committee.
Chair Henry noted that this is the same thing that happened along the Diagonal Trail. Mr. Moore
confirmed and reviewed the areas affected with the Committee.
. Chair Henry asked if there is anything fairly significant that should be addressed in Floral Park to
avoid being cut down. Mr. Moore stated there are some very significant oak trees in the park that
they are concerned about and reviewed. He noted that in the past Xce1 Energy did not notify the
local government agencies of their plans adding that they are not required to notify the Cities. He
stated that the positive news here is that they did notify the City and the affected residents this
year. He noted that the negative here is that there is nothing the City can do to stop them from
cutting, as it is their property. He noted that Eagle Scout Mathew Hudson would be installing up
to twenty- five birdhouses in the park to be used as habitats for the birds.
The Committee held a general discussion regarding the possibility of placing a trail in the area.
Mr. Moore agreed that it could be a possibility noting that they should keep in mind the number
of residents in the area. He eXplained that most of the residents are not used to having trails in
the area and the increased foot traffic could be an issue. He suggested that they review the area
once the work is completed.
Tom Moore - Recreation Update
Mr. Moore provided the Committee with an update on tile Recreation activities. He reviewed the
following items:
. 2004 tree sale is under way. He reviewed with the Committee and encouraged the
Committee, as individuals, to consider a donation. He noted that last year the PTRC
. Committee did purchase a tree for the park. He stated that information about the tree sale
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. would be included on the City website, Cable TV announcements and in the City
Newsletter.
. Noted that the Bird Feeding Handbook, a guide on how to feed and recognize various
bird species, would be available on the City website.
. Reviewed the wetland policies with the Committee noting that the policies would be
available on the City website.
. He stated that they would also place information regarding buckthorn removal on the City
web site.
. Winter numbers were very good. Ice rinks were open an additional two weeks. Took the
money out of O&M budget as opposed to Recreation. Results were very positive. Spring
season is now under way.
Committee Member Zilmer referenced the clear cutting in the Floral Park area and asked for
further clarification on the effects from the retardant that would be used. Mr. Moore explained
that it is used as a growth retardant for the brush and trees. He explained that they do not stump
out the trees, they cut them to ground level and utilize the retardant to stop and further growth.
6. YEAR IN REVIEW
. Mr. Moore provided the Committee with an overview of the Goals and Accomplishments for the
Operations & Maintenance department as follows:
. Annual review with URS noting that last year they did a total of twelve projects in the
City that included: Cub, Guidant, Highway 96, the Lift Stations, Seal Coating, crack
sealed the trails, Ingerson project, Karth Lake East, the extended trail in Hamline,
installation of park structures, wood chipped the trails, ADA improvements at Perry Park,
installation of approximately one-thousand feet of handrails along trails, the new trail
entrance at Old Highway 10, the trail section at Cummings Park, ADA entrance at Floral
Park, new trail sections added to Crepeau, six new benches, six new gardens, completed
the first year of winter plowing, installed an ice skating trail, increased by 40 the number
of buckthorn removals, planted 27 trees and completed several Eagle Scout projects.
. Recreation percentage rates have stabilized in the various programs.
. Increased to 250 participants over 2002.
He stated that the report was also passed on for City Council review adding that it was an
incredible year for the City of Arden Hills.
Mr. Moore noted that from a CIP perspective they spent $1.5 million over what had been
authorized in order to take advantage of the bid process. He stated that the City would have a
. budget surplus this year adding that O&M is the cost leader. He explained that it appears that
O&M would have the best budget numbers of any department in the City as far as maintaining
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. their budgets. He stated that both City Staff and the City Council worked well together to make a
truly remarkable year.
7. Rosevil1e Historical Trail Follow-up
Committee Member Messerly stated that Tom Mulcahy has a large file of information that could
be useful and suggested contacting him. He reviewed stating that it was his intent to put together
a historical book but the Committee disbanded before they were able to complete it. He stated
that Mr. Mulcahy has indicated that he would be glad to help out and would like to approach the
Council to determine what they would like to do.
Mr. Moore asked Committee Member Messerly to have Mr. Mulcahy contact him first. He
stated that he would like to discuss this with him first before approaching the Council.
Committee Member Messerly stated that he would have Mr. Mulcahy get in touch with him first.
Chair Henry suggested including narratives that would highlight the various places and enhance
the storytelling in the process.
8. OTHER ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
. Committee Member Crassweller referenced an email he received from Chair Henry. He clarified
his understanding noting that the email raised the issue of priorities. He stated that he is happy to
see that Council is moving forward on the overpass at Snelling and suggested including trail
connections in the Long Term Plan. He stated that one of their most important priorities should
be the trail connections.
Chair Henry stated that he reviewed the Parks, Trails and the Open Space Plan in an effort to
identify two types of trail connections and reviewed with Committee. He suggested that the
Committee review his list and recommended plan to determine what else should be included on
the list. He stated that the Committee should spend some time discussing the priorities.
Committee Member Crassweller agreed stating that he was glad that Chair Henry took the time
to develop the list. He agreed that they are discussing the health and welfare of the community
adding that he should have the ability to walk or ride his bike within the city without any threat
of injury. He stated that this is a very important issue and the Committee should try to determine
a way to improve the trail system.
Mr. Moore stated that Chair Henry's email was also forwarded to City Council along with the
packet for their review.
Committee Member Messerly asked if anything has been done with the abandoned trail along
694 and Highway 10. Mr. Moore stated that City Council has discussed this issue in regards to
. New Brighton and the bridge repair as a possible connection between Arden Hills and New
Brighton.
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Chair Henry urged the Committee to develop a packet of information regarding the trails for City
Council to review and consider.
9. NEXT MEETING AGENDA
. Trail Improvements List from Chair Henry
10. ADJOURNMENT
Committee Member Crassweller motioned, Committee Member Zilmer seconded, to adjourn the
meeting at 8:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Bonita Sullivan
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