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ARDEN HILLS
FINAL MINUTES
PARKS, TRAILS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY, MAY 24, 2005 7:00 P.M.
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Henry called the May 24, 2005 meeting of the Parks, Trails and Recreation Committee to
order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Bill Henry, Committee Members Larmy Baumann, Jim
Crassweller, Dave McClung, Rich Straumarm, and Cindy Wheeler.
OTHERS PRESENT: Tom Moore, Operations and Maintenance Director; Michelle Olson,
Parks and Recreation Supervisor; Gregg Larson, City Council Liaison; and Bonita Sullivan,
Recording Secretary.
. MEMBERS NOT PRESENT: Committee Members Joani Werner, Steve Zilmcr, Derek Hames
and Roger Williams.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Agenda was approved by consensus.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
. Approve April 26, 2005 Minutes.
Committee Member McClung had the following corrections:
. Page 4, Item 6 - Park Tobacco Policy Presentation, name should be Nicole Holm.
. Page 4, Item 6 - Park Tobacco Policy Presentation, PAC-Peers Acting to Challenge Tobacco
should be PACT -Peers Acting to Challenge Tobacco. He noted PAC should be PACT
throughout.
. Page 6, Third paragraph should be Lia Reich not Lea Ryck.
. Page 7, Rudy McNaughton should be Brittany McFadden
Committee Member Straumarm stated that he had the following correction:
. Page 2, Council Update, Mayor Aplikowski's update, fourth bullet should read: that Tony
. Schmidt County Park would be known as a Regional Park.
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. MOTION: Committee Member Straumarm motioned, seconded by Committee Member
McClung to approve the April 26, 2005 minutes as amended. The motion carried
unanimously.
COUNCIL UPDATE
Council Liaison Larson provided the Commission with a brief update on the following Council
activities:
. Celebrating Arden Hills is scheduled for June 25,2005 and Ms. Olson is currently looking
for volunteers. He asked the Committee to contact her if they have any time available.
. Michelle Olson, Recreation Supervisor recently celebrated her 6th year with City.
. Received the 2004 Audit Report noting that the City received a clean report from the
Auditors. Noted that it was a significant undertaking, as they had to value the entire City
infrastructure.
. This past Saturday was flower-planting day. Noted that it was successful but wet and Mr.
Moore did a great job organizing.
. Work has been completed by Ramsey County on the trail along Lake Joharma.
. Currently in the process of negotiations over the value of the TCAAP property. Next big step
to accomplish is to determine what the property is worth. From there, an environmental
evaluation would be done over the next six months and then determine the value. He noted
. that they are very near the end of the window of opportunity adding that GSA might have to
go back and re-appraise the property.
. City is preparing for another banner year for diseased trees. Have hired a contractor to assist
with tree removal and also reviewing tree ordinances.
4. PARKS AND TRAILS UPDATES
Mr. Moore provided the Committee with the following update:
. Buckthorn removal is going well - at least 3 large pickups a day.
. Rentals have picked up at the new warming house at Cummings Park. Renting on a weekend
basis.
. Perry Park facility was inspected last week by City staff and the Inspector. Pointed out punch
list items and hope to have all items completed this week, with the hopes oftaking possession
of the building next week. Rejected all landscaping, have to wait to see if sod responds.
Suggested touring both warming houses at the next PTRC meeting.
. Stated that he is the liaison to the Karth Lake Improvement district noting that he would help
to organize the DNR water quality testing.
. Staff has found a source for a portable trailer to substitute as a seasonal warming house. The
cost is $325.00 month to rent with electrical hookup and phone. Would only use during the
winter rr:onths.
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. 5. RECREATION UPDATE
Mr. Moore provided the Committee with an update on the recreation activities:
. Rain has wreaked havoc with all programs. Had a lot of cancellations on both adult and
youth sports due to the weather.
. Celebrating Arden Hills is coming up - Posters and tickets will be provided to Committee
Members to sel1. Encouraged them to participate in the events and asked that they donate an
hour or two at the event.
6. PARK TOBACCO POLICY - DISCUSSION
Chair Henry stated that Committee Crassweller is not present and noted that he is not
enthusiastic about the concept or proposed policy. He asked if what the Committee is
considering is to possibly recommend to City Council that they adopt a new City ordinance or a
policy that there would be no smoking allowed in parks or on trails.
Committee Member McClung stated that there are two ways to consider noting that most Cities
have opted to adopt a policy of no smoking in the public parks. He indicated that all Cities
around Arden Hills have a no smoking policy in the parks. He explained that the rationale for an
ordinance was to place more enforcement power and a monetary fee. He stated that this would
. be voluntary enforcement. He noted that the results of a survey done by Brittany McFadden
show that the policies are not keeping people from the parks and it is noted that the parks are
much cleaner. He stated that the policy drafted would apply to City parks and trails.
Mr. Moore noted that smoking is not allowed on City property and they have also implemented a
no smoking or drinking policy with the Softball Teams.
Committee Member McClung stated that he spoke with the Parks Director at the Cities of
Shoreview, New Brighton and Roseville noting that two of the Cities have found the policy to be
positive for the parks and residents continue to using their facilities. He stated that the Leagues
have had no problems with enforcement or use of the parks.
Committee Member Wheeler asked ifthis policy would also apply to chewing tobacco.
Committee Member McClung stated that it is a tobacco product and would be include. He stated
that many youth leagues already have policies on the use of chewing tobacco and reviewed.
Committee Member McClung stated that the PACT youth group would provide the signs and are
willing to help post them throughout the city at no expense.
Council Liaison Larson suggested that the PACT youth group attend the next Council meeting to
provide their presentation to Council. He stated that it would be very helpful and would show
positive support for the policy.
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. MOTION: Committee Member McClung motioned, seconded by Committee Member
Straumarm that the PTRC recommend to City Council that they adopt the
proposed tobacco free parks policy as written in the draft dated April 15, 2005.
Motion carried 5-0.
7. BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS
Chair Henry asked Mr. Moore Tom to review the budget process as it relates to the City Parks.
Mr. Moore explained that with the exception of replacement of play structures any other
replacements or improvements in City parks come out ofthe Park Fund.
Committee Member McClung asked if this is the standard practice of the City or part of the
ordinance. Mr. Moore stated that he believed this was standard practice.
Mr. Moore noted that the last major expense from the Park Fund was for the renovation of Perry
Park, which was approximately nine years ago. He stated that the Cummings Park building was
paid for by Guidant.
Chair Henry asked what the last significant trail was that was built in the City. Council Liaison
Larson stated that the only trail that the City invested a large amount of money for was West
. Round Lake Road.
Chair Henry noted that there was discussion around whether the PTRC should retain a significant
amount of money in the Park Fund as a buffer. Mr. Moore confirmed noting that this was during
the Fall of2004. He stated that the dollar amount discussed was $150,000.00. The Mayor was
in attendance for that discussion.
Council Liaison Larson suggested placing the establishment of a fund for expenditures at the top
of their list of priorities. He suggested that the PTRC work with Council to determine what other
funds might be available noting that Council has not had too many discussions on this issue.
Chair Henry agreed and suggested that the PTRC work to identify their priorities going forward
and prioritize based on need more so than on revenue. Council Liaison Larson agreed adding
that pushing for a more concrete funding process should be at the top of their list of priorities
noting that the park dedication fees are not as available.
Committee Member McClung agreed and suggested that they incorporate both process and add
TCAAP Park Infrastructures.
Chair Henry asked ifTCAAP would be a windfall for park fund. Council Liaison Larson stated
that eventually there would be park dedication fees from the development noting that right now it
. is not clearly defined.
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. Chair Henry stated that he is interested in how the City Council deals with parks in a developing
area ofTCAAP and whether there are revenues from the developing area that would benefit
parks in general.
Committee Member McClung suggested that the PTRC review and begin work to make the case
that they need allocations from the General Fund.
Chair Henry agreed stating that the PTRC should work to determine how they plan to pay for
park needs. He asked ifthe City Council would be willing to have this discussion.
Council Liaison Larson suggested approaching the Council to request a discussion around
funding sources for parks. He agreed that there is a need to address the funding issues.
Committee Member Wheeler stated that it would be a good idea to have a policy in place before
TCAAP happens. Committee Member McClung agreed stating that it would be good to have the
policy established and have support from the Council on the policy before TCAAP happens.
Chair Henry asked how the City funds street projects, sewer upgrades and maintenance. Council
Liaison Larson stated that the City has enterprise funds to pay for street projects and storm water.
He stated that the City also receives funds from MSA, State funding, from the Levy, from
. Enterprise funds, small amount in grants each year and assessments on property.
MOTION: Committee Member Crassweller motioned, Committee Member Straumann
seconded, to recommend to City Council to identify, as a first priority, on a list, a
determination of the source of revenues that would support future improvements
in parks and trails. Motion carried 6-0.
Committee Member Crassweller noted that one of the items done over the last couple of years is
Buckthorn r'mloval. He stated that if the City is serious about buckthorn removal that they
should begin to allocate a specific dollar amount each year for removal. He suggested that this
be made into a long-term, armual project with specific funding.
Committee Member McClung agreed stating that the PTRC should discuss this with City
Council as part of the process to deal with diseased trees.
Committee Member McClung suggested that they also include the intra-park trail from upper
Freeway Park to lower Freeway Park.
Chair Henry asked if the City could actually build a trail along Old Snelling for $121,000. Mr.
Moore explained that the number came from the City Engineer and confirmed that it could be
done. He stated that $168,000 would come from the Park Fund and other funding sources would
be used to make up the difference. He stated that the $121,000 is just a portion of the cost for the
. project, comes from the Park Fund.
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- Chair Henry asked for an update on the Elmer Anderson Trail naming policy. Mr. Moore stated
that Council has approved the naming of the Elmer Anderson Trail and staff plans to meet with
the contractor the first week of June to discuss signage. He stated that it would be a fall
dedication project.
Council Liaison Larson stated that in negotiating with MnDOT he suggested that they might be
willing to consider some things they could do for Arden Hills if they prevail on making Highway
lOa federal highway. He suggested keeping the Bridge Underpass project on list for this reason.
Committee Member Straumarm armounced that the Friends of St. Paul and Ramsey County Parks
and Trails are having their 20th Am1iversary celebration on June 23, 2005 at 6:00 p.m. He stated
that they would be planting 20 trees at Keller Park in commemoration in addition to several
events throughout the day. He stated that the Am1ual meeting and a free picnic would be at the
Streetcar Station at Como Park.
8. NEXT MEETING AGENDA
. Review budget list and discuss priorities for 2006.
9. ADJOURNMENT
. Committee Member McClung motioned, Committee Member Straumarm seconded, to adjourn
the meeting at 8:40 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Bonita Sullivan
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