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�93nutes o� Regu�ar Ccuncii Me�+ting
Vi!{age of Aeden Hilis
P4onday, August 14, 1978 - 7:30 p.m.
Villaoe Nall
Caii to Order
Pursuanf fo due cail and notEce i�hereof, Ntayor Crepeau called the
reeefiing 40 order ai- 7:35 p.m.
RaIR Calt
Present - M+�y�r Henry J. Crepeau, Jr., Counciimen James Wtngert,
Charl�s Crichton, Ward Hanson, Robert�Wuodburn
Absent - None '
Also Present - Engineer ponald Christotfersen, Pla�rer Orlyn Mifier,
Gl�rk Administrai'or Charlotte McNiesh, Deputy Cierk Dorothy Z�,hm
• Approvai of Minutes
Wingerf moved, s�cnnded.by Crichton, thafi Council approve the Minutes
of 4i�e R�gular Councii P7eefing of July 31st as amended. Motion carried
u�animously.
Bus(n�ss �r�m the Floor
none
REP6RT�Of VILI.AGE PLRNNER ORLYN hiBLLER
Case No. 78-2t Variancs for Second Curb
Miiler raferred GounelE to sketch of p�op
Bou.levard and to applieafifon for a second
Johanna Boufovard (exis4ing? and ona �from
Avenue).
UT � J.fi. r87F7
rty at 1525 La
�urD cut. one
Oid Highway t0
ke Johanna
trom Lake
(Snelting
Mt!!er descrtbad �the property as 5u�ficient in size for a turn-
arcurad; second curb cut trom Old Highway 10 7s ;or convenience and
recommandad by tha Board ot Appeals and Ptanning Commission for
safe#y reaso�is; noted that skefich is not to scate - distance from
garage to Old Nighway 10 is about IGO°. Miller said he presumes
that the prtmary reasons for the one curb-cut ordinence requt��-
mert per singEe-family residenc� �es probabiy esfiabiished for more
cro�ded 3ot situations, for appearance and where an excess of drives
coui� cause maintenance and snow storage probiems. It aas noSed
that Johanns Boulevard and 01d Highway [0 (Snelling) are relativety
busy stree�ts; entrances propossd are on iwo streets and are v�i de-
spread.
W9ngart moved, seconded by Criahton� tha# Council approve the rsquest
tor � second curb cut on Snefling Avenue at t525 Lake 3ohanrta
Boulevard, as reyuested, because of fihe extra measure of safety
arforded, P�otion carried unanimously.
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!n an affort io axpedite the presAni-ation
Crspoau asked Councilman W3ngert to review
appli�afion; noted thefi the projecf i5 i'he
sgo.
and discusston� Mayor
the status of the
same as proposed a year
� kding�r-fi exs�iained i•hat the proposed proj�ct has bsen rovtewed and
discvssed +n detai� by the Ptanr.iog Commission and Counc6l; T.C.C.H.
is at the po(nt where i-here is considerable design work to be done
on t�ie project; explained that the history. very betefiy, involved
appruval of a diifer�nt ptan, althouyh simitar.fn its use, and
danial of a similar pian, by tt�e Cauncit in years past; deveioper
now has to r�solve the questian of y�he�`her to go shead antl.s4art
tha �ssEgn,process of trying fo fiake care of soms of the neiqhborhood
conc�rns and work oui� some of fihe s�seciffcs of the praject, only to
coR�e in when i•his is completed tar a"denial' on the basis of 'usa';'
f�seis, fherefore, thet the Council discussion tonight shouid 6e as
brief as possible ar�€�nd the peSnt nf the "use of the property"
rathar i�han on the buiidings, number of units, etc.; ditficult to
know what ae•hion c�n be taken �Yonight, but feeis that one aetion
vhat eouid be i'aken is that of deny�nq ti�e applicafiion ori the
basis of i�t being an tncompatibie ue:� Ni7Pi th� resider4ial zoning
in svnich ifi is situai-ed. Wingerf safd he would cOnsider a"no
ar.fi��n�' �s a P1go ahead" #0 4he devedoper to find out what fihe
pa;-t'scula� design d�siiciencies are vr might be, design i-o those, ard
bs�En� th9 completed Qackage to Counci! �hen that is done.
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�' �9i;�utes o� tZagular Counci I��ae� �rq August !4, l978
Page Tao
Wingert rev3ewed the differences betwe•en this plan, and the one denied
a year ago, as being very minor; there was some speculation in the
Pianniog Commission changinq certain feafures of the buildinq;
understands there ara differences in funding, how tAe proJecfi might
run; essentiaily, as f�r �s:th�'�i$y es coa�cerned, it is the same
use, sams siza generally; no 4-lex�s are shown in thei� current
planning; proposs 172 apartrnent unifis:and 60'nursing care untts).
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Crich�on moved�that Coun �i de a Sp�ctal Use Permifi for a retire-
ment center us� of the TCCH propar-�y, as described in Case 78-20,
based on its incompatibiltYy with the surroundino residentiai area,
zone� R-1.
• Sn discussion, it was CounciB9S understandtng that if the motion
passes, ?her� will ba no discussioro of the plan details; if 4he
mo4lon fails, 6t gives the daveloper Yhe Indication of how he can
proceed; motton p�rtains to -the proposed "use", not destgn detail
and pians preseni-ed.
Grichton expl�in�d thafi the mo4fon u:as made becauss it appears �hat
p�articular tract o# iand is no4 what he wauld consider an 3soiated
area. s�parted by natural boundaries from existing residenfilaB; if
fihe entira tract o� land were inclWded (County Road E to �ailroad
an6 OId Highway i0 (Sneiiing) to Hamiina), he may teel very differently;
this fract is nea:'h to severa! residanfifai lots, so feels !fis use as
'snstitutiona! hod�sing or a nursing home does not fit fihis particular
Eocation.
Pete,rsec� n��tad tha$ the parcel is buffered by a park in the eastern
portlon, wooda on �the e��sf and fhe r�i i road on the nor�'h
4loodburn said hls opinions are dop�neent upon the Judge+uenf of those
uho are aff�e��ed; app�rars that ai� !$ast halt of the pee�te, ond psrhaps
more, who are directiy and closely invoived, within 350' of the
proj�ct, dld nofi say in their judgement, it would be a degradation
of fe�e nelgh�orh4ad, and thes� are the peaple most nearly atfecfed
by 4he proJ�c�r; the maJ�rity saem to say it is right nex� to me and
ii�'s �oot 6nappropriate.
H�nson exp�essed his ad�atra#iars ta iCCN On "coming back" Yo sub-
s4antiate �h�i- som� of the rssidenfs fa�or the project; noteci that
soms are s'F614, hoadever, oppcsod -�o fhe oroposel.
Hing<3rt no��ed thr�t Yi�e concerns of �h� affected residents a�e
imporS'ani'; d� �c� k�ear a clear sYat�men4 from ihe nearby property
owners; 5�E3f71 "io have a 50/50 s6tu�+ion; Council must give 4hought
to 4he afr'a3ci� of 4h� lar�d usg on this neighborhood; appears that
TCCii is wi3iing �:o d�si3n.to r�asaeaatiKe circumsFances if neighbor-
haod or Counc's3 c�n supNiy d6recfion fo negate the abjections; sees
a largs i�s3a-;-utfon and a smai[ group of residen#s that s�emingi.y
b�,long to Eio neighborhood - ar� ��!e��ively segregafied; teels tha4
"CE4y of �om�s" eonecspf is nct �a�sl! carried ou'r by fihis institution.
hlaodl;urn n«ted thaY #he proposai es for apartmanfi residential;
-�herc3fore, a p$rnifified use (n R--I w?th a Speciaf Use P�Pmi�t.
� Cr��H�au wo•ied 9h�i� i-he inten+ o�f th�,mmoftor�, ifi it passes, is'that
aaa�`iiar s€�te r�ou6d hav�a �o b�i saiag�4�; df mot6on does raoY pass, then
Cuun�il wii0 r.onsS��r fha sp��i§ies as ouSii�de� by ths Planning
uommission.
C�mmEan7s fi-om �hm � loor opposerg i•i��, �re;ye�c$ were heard:
Hoaa�ro fC�rn - wan�rs ar�a tivase of 4�egh�vay 51 to ramein R-I
rc�siden•��i�III, �rii�h sirar�le-��mily h;om��; C@i'y needs a higher
pc�puta-hion �f c�iidren - hays elesed -two schools.
�€36!"qB Saiitr�crns � Pe�6�-ion prr�5or�red by TCCN includes re�ters
�nd �iaopl� nai in ciosa proxsm;�y fio 7CCH project; 4hose contacted
xejre� the�se krao�r� ±o b� is� `�vor; previous P�t?tior. o�: a ye�r aga
abr,fi �to a! i �eeighboe�s oi TCCN pr:��e�rties - i7 of 28 in opposftion..
L�srry �'E,i-a:•san scid 1? of 20 on curr�nY Pe'Y6'rian f�vor the projec�t.
Da3e Hit:kS - 5`ee6s paopla on ;h�, sou-�h 5ida Of County Road E wiii
4o as a�rac-te� as those on #he no�-tti; a residenfilal area and i5
�p�oseci io this i.isr �r 'rhe �rop�r9•b.
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Minu�es of Reguiar Councii Meatina
Page Throe
August 14, 1978
Max Stoutenberq - askad if residenfis on Psscal
deslrs, h�ve Pasca! Avenue dead-ended?
Answer - Pascal is a piatted street; the'rsfore,
changed, Pascal Avenue is s dedicated 5treet as
not be 1°dead-ended".
Diane McAliister - asked why project was turned
Crep�au r�ad a9oud t�e former mo?ion of denlai
can, if th�y
unless plat is
piatted and can-
down previousiy.
(9-12-77).
After d�scussion, Mo4ion c�rried (Crepsau, Hanson, Crichton voting
in favor of the motionp Wingert, Woodburn voti�g in appositlon).
• C�se No. 78-22. Yariances for Sign - Cardiac Racemeke�s Inc.
Miller referred Council to site plan, skatch of sign and Minutes
of Board of Appeals and Planning Commisston; noted that a hard-
ship does. ' exis# because of Neg�tation and �he extremety wide
street right of xay; nofied that the Board of Appeals �nd Planning
Commission recommend approvai of tho 2' cl�arance variance and
the 24' front set back variance. �
Woodburn moved, seconded by Hanson, that Counctl approve the varTances
as detailed, with the provision thafi tAe sign tocation be reviexed
in the �verot of any Nideninq ot Hamline whtch�wili brin_q this sign
cioser to the paved porfiion of the righ� of"way; CPf to then move it
to an appropriafie iocafion. Motfon carried uoanimously.
k WafiersAed Disfri
.
Mr. Goyer introduceG Mr. Dir�ke, c�r. Hamilton, and Mr. Petrange�o
(RCWD Board of MaaagersD and Mr. hlfedenbachero Engineer; asked
Mliedenb�ci�sr 4o exptain i�he improvements proposed fo,occur in
Arden Hiffs; noted that RCWD has �ccepted e matching fund federai
grant of E1,296,715 frem the Environmental Protection Agency for the
purpose of developing and demonstrating new or improved methods
for the preventibrap removal, reducYion and elimination af pollution
in the Long Lake Chain of Lakes; to be eligibie to .receive the grant
funds, i4 aill be nece�sary $o matclz the amount locaJty on a
do#lar to doPlar basis; 7ofiai cost of fhe project is estimated at
52,593,430.
Wiedenbacher �xpiained 4hat i�h� cons�Fruction is ahodt one year
b�h:nd schedula because of fundTng s�egotiatoans; grant is �or 3
years to compiete wprk proposed. The projects in Arden Hilis Mere
described to consisY of fihree major catagories:
�. aetlanOs treatmeni� system,at $152,000, vrhfch (s a series
of dtfch�s or sxales in the +�atlands are�s which wili be
monitored for best reT�nt+on rata; pumps riil operate
accordingly - wiil be us�d Ro manage storm vrater.
b. Counfiy Di�cr f2 at Sl27,000 - a se ri�s of drop spiliways to
reduce sBope. riprapping �nd a general reatigrtment in relation
to driv� anc' existl�g Bethet build(ngs.
c. Johanna Guttg4 a-F b85,000 � Amergency overflow pipe ei#her
s$ loca�ion of existing emergency ptpe or existing outtet
tocafBon; as�ir Ieog:Pr of 57' is proposed; noted i00 year.
2R hour :,�t�+rinerill raise lake 1.66°.
d. 2! oi-her minor prajec-ts in varPaus pond areas aroond the
City to obt�in storm svat�r stoFage at 5137,OOQ toYallle�g
$501,000 worth of pra,9ec7s plus 16� engine��ing e4c, e"r
abaufi 3601,000 in A�"den Hilfs.
Rn explsnation o�f proposed 4+unding, it was stated fihat, in lieu of
sp�cial assssSmants, a tax levy of up to I/3 mitl per year Is proposed
as faftows:
i978-1981, ii3 mill for entir� district
1982-19&4, .234.miils for Ard�n Nfi�s, Shoreview, New Brighton,
and Rosev(dle.
4�iadsnbacher amphasia�d that °be-tter lakes" is the basic purpos� -
reductioe of s�diment fiiltration in-'so thz lakes - a benefit to
Rrde� Nills no m�tSer ahere in ttie Roseville, Arden H31is, New
Brighton, Shoreviem area the ac4uai projscts are located.
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Minutes of ReguOar Council i�aeting AuQuSt t�, i978
Page Four
Woodburn noted som� concerns re Lake Johanna, Lake Josephine� and
li#�le Jo cont rois r�hich Wiedenbaaher 5aid would be considered in
review of the proJects; noted that Rice Creek Watershed Distrlct
had previously recommendod some filiing tn the 6ngerson, Tifl�r
Lane, Hamline s�amp area - report indicates effective ponding naw,
with no change in flil. Rice Creek agreed to iook into thPs more
closely. RCWD advised they were not aw�re of a me�ting re Nighaay
Department ponding plans a4 3-694 and lexinqtort Avenue area; will
revieK same. Woodburn nofied an appare�t settlement delta at east
side of Lake Josephine which produces no�iceable fiftratfon af
least once a year. Wiedenbacher noted this for Incorporation in
his study. Rice Creek ai{1 have attorney look inta records re
County Ditch 4 to datermine whstMor it extends north of lake
• J�hanna as indicated in the reporfi.
6oye r noted that thE Public Hearing r� the Long lake Chain of Lakes
Bmprovements wilt be heid at 9rondale High Schaol, 2425 Long Lake
Road, at 7:'s0 p.m., on 5eptember 6P f978; legal nofiiaes will be
provtded in four focel ne�spapsrs advising of the �d vaf.orem �ou#e;
determinai'ion was made to save $300,000.00 cost of matling indivi�ual
nofices and appiy this tn the project cost.
Tom Lynch advised that ha, as a c3tizen of Arden Htits., owns an
outlet ory Lake Josephine; calfed the Mayor on July 1 when wat�r
�as waist higfi on his properfy; didn°t know �ho to ca{1 - County,
Rice Creak, DNR, City; now has io gat a monitor so he can monitor
the {ake himself; after starrn,had dead carp, crappies etc: oa his
prope�ty because outiet had not 6een eieaned sfnce RCWD took it
over; asked �hy hames are allowed to be builY in the Namiine. Tiller,
ingerson area ahere we know we ha�✓e problem5.
Goysr explained i•haf RC�D encomp�sses 200 square miles of '
problems; aim to correct these probiems in ths study described.
Wi�denbacher expiained that f}ood contro! measures are�ncorpora#edA�
in -ahe project; project controls qu�nfi�y whi�Ee contro�ling.quatity
of water. RCIVD plans to consuit w.ith cities in final dssign process.
OTHER 8US1NES5
Cauncil was referred to 4ett�r trom John LaMyEr, Jr. and Crichton
proposed that Counc'sl approve a ratio participation bsse8 on actua�
property acres tn axcess of 5 acres.
CeBchfon suggest�d a formula whereby homeow.ner's cost �ould increase
as �craageincreased up to 20 acres of homestead property.
Af?er discussion, n,�i-ter aas deterred to a iater meeting, and Crichfion
agreed fo prepare a ResaiutSon, 3ncorporating the tormula p�oposed,
for Council°s consideratio�. :
Electrical Permit F�es
Councfl �as reterre� 4o recommendatiorts of Pirsance Co��mitt�e, and
• af��r discussian, Hanson moved, seco�ded by WoodDuro, thaP.Gouncii
approve tfis e3ecf�3cat permit fees as recommertded by Eiectricai
anspector Petfersen. Me�ion carr6ed unanimously.
Atfiorn�y Lynden to arepara n�cessary revision to Building Uode
Ordinance and advise on possibili�y e� actuat fee scheduia being
in Resalu-�fon ratiisr �-hsn ordl�ance.
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Re�art on Cardiac Pacemakers La�d�capinq
Wingert report�d that the entranc�s planting•is �+ery wei! done, w�li
maintained, ar�d that phase I landscaping is compieted,.mainteining
fhe dandscape concept agreed to throughout the 51te; reported that
Cardiac has experisnced a(ofi of °'fi ree Ooss" thfs ye�r and Iast
year �nd are eaplaeing some of this, �htch is a continuous problem;
phase i planfings whfch were {ost have beer� replac�d and phase 2
plan�hing has been comQlei-ed in ths s{�iri-t of the projecf:
Wingerfi reported satisfaction with the landscaping ihis tar; noted
that the pt�ese 3 planting prabiems experienced ar� probabiy not
chargabie to CPG i�ecause of app�rant encroachments an CP9 property
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�inutes of ReguDar Counci! Mse�i�g August 14, 1978
Page Five
by the �Qjacenf property on Fsrnr�ood ahich has caused erosion of
� 4arrk �tc.; problem of ertcroaehment needs to be resolved be�Fore
thA phase 3 landscaping at entranca can be completed.
Mark Sfievans (CP9) reported fhat hb (s at�empting to negotiate with
Arden Hiils Glub to resoive the encroachment probiems. -
AfYer discussion, Wingeri' moved, kha'r Council accept CPI Land-
scaping for phases t and 2, ferminating the phase I maintenance borid
and phase 2 performance bond, subjact to recetpt of a phase 2 main-
tenance bond. Motion was s�condad by Hanson and carried unanimously.
. Mark Stevens,reporfied th�t CP! anticipates early 1980 cons#ruct(on
of the 3rd phase of consttucfion under their 3-part Speciai Use
Pe�mit PUD; want to start coristruction of some ot the parktng area
very soon, 295-335 spaces; anfic�pates 780 emp6oyees hy �rear-end;
wouid Iika'to st�rt clearing in ebout i month.
Council cegu��fiaa 5teNens to con�tact Engineer Chrtstoffersen for
l�ts in-put re the proposed parking lot.
Wyrridge EAW
Mlingert moved that Council authorizo the Cierk Adm[nistrator to si.gn
a nagative deciaration on the E�S and authorize executton of the
Wynr�i::ige EAW as amended. Mo�ion wa� seconded by Crichton and
carried unanimously.
R_amsey, County Communifiv Neaith Services
Woodburn revieaed fherservices proposed as parfi of the Ramsey�County
Community Heal4h Services P#an; described the sevaraR options the
Ci•ty is encourac�ad 4o choose from tor i-ts enviro�mental health
program.
Rfiier discussion, Woo6burn moved thaf Arden Hllis decfine participatton
in fhe environme�tal h�al�Ph program, and au�Fhorize Mayor Crepeau
to communicafe Councii's docision to Ramsey Counfiy Community tieal�Yp�
Services. Motton sras secondad by Hanson and cerried unar+lmausly.
Blds �or Fublic Norks Vehfcles
D�ferred to a lafer meefing.
Public 5afetv Committ�e Recommend�tPons Re 9ncreasQd Wours far CSO
Council aas refersad to i�he Public Saf�ty Committeeps recommenda4iat�
t�linutes of 8-'I-78) fh�t dog pafirol hours. by Arden kifi� CSO,
be increasad from i0 hours/reek to 20 ho�srs/Neek.
Afi-er discussfon r�, need for addPtiona) patrolting etc., Gouncit '
at+��horized an incr�as� in hours for dog patrol trom IO to 20 hours Pe��
aeek (4 haurs/day) 4hrough September 1978; s�aggestea that some.i�RalAt.s�"
aeekend patrol6ing be Inctuded in #he schedute. GL
Pt�PORT GF ViLLAGE CLEi�K ADMBNlSTRATOR CHARLOTTE McN1ES{i
daos and J?tter
� ua3nvrao c�a�co ions �
Hanson movad, secondod b}+ Wie�ger4� fihat Gouneil approve the Etecfiion
Judg�s snd flitornates as lisi�ed an8 aufhorized paymant of judqas
at 52.65�nour and chairmen ai- 32.95/hour, inc{uding training session
hours. Motioe� carried unanimousiy.
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NiPEg�rt move6, ssconded by H�nson, fhat Councif adopfi Resoiution
No, 78-47. Plotion carried unaninously.
�cnove - acneau�e �uoiic nearen4
Y�ingert moved, s�cond�d by Cricfiton, that Councii schedula a Pubiic
Hesring re Ca'se No. 76-23 befor� the �lanning Commissi�n at 8:00 p_m.
on Wedn�sday, Septemb�r 6, 1978 a4 the Viffage Ha11. Plotioo carried
ue��nis�ousiy.
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Minutas ot Regular Councii Meeti�g
Page Si x
i9?9 B�dqefi - Salary 9ncrements
R#ter dlscussion,.Woodburn moved, seconded
Administrator could use a 6#$ increment for
carrted unanfmousiy.
rta to Revfea� Soecial
August t4, t978
by Wingert, that Cierk
Dudget purpose�. Motton
Noodburn moved, seconded Cy Hanson, that a�pec3al Council Meeting
• be scheduled on Thursday, August 24, 1978 at 5e30 p.m. at the Village
Ha9t to r�view speclai assessments prior fio hearings. Motian
cai�ried unanimousiy.
Claims and Payroll
Cr{ehton ma��ed, seconded by Wingert, that Counctl approve the Ci�Sims
and Payroil as submitte4, inctuding transfer check No. 2248 in
amount of $125s000. i�atton earried una�imously.
Renuesfi
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McNissh referred Councii to a request from Mrs. S�cCune to temporarily
partially barrscade Nursery Nill Lar�e tor a street "block party".
Affer discussion, Council authorized the fiemporary barricade, as
descrlb�:d, providing it is during daylight hours and on a weekend;
5hk+riff to be advised of the temporary si�reet slosi�g when date
and times are determined.
Ad�ournmen�
Crichton enoved, seconded by Hanson, that 4he mee'�ing adjourn at
i2:22 a.m. Motion carried unan,imously.
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Charlotte McNiesh
Cierk Aclminisi-rator
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No-;ice of hteei•inqs
Spoe3al Co�tncii P9eeting - Thursday, Aug:ast 24th at 5:3Q p.m..afi the
Vitlage H�19.
Regular Cc�uncit &tea4ing - Monday, Rugust 28fh at 7:30 p.m. at ths
ViE{age Hall.