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CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORKSESSION
APRIL 10, 2007 6:30 P.M.
CITY HALL -- 1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
Mayor Harpstead called to order the joint City Council/Planning Commission Meeting at 6:34 pm.
Attendees:
Stan Harpstead, Mayor; David McClung, City Council; David Grant, City Council; Brenda
Holden, City Council; Fran Holmes, City Council; Dave Sand, Planning Commission; Andy
Holewa, Planning Commission; Clayton Larson, Planning Commission; Liz Modesette, Planning
Commission; Jan Stodola, Planning Commission; Roberta Thompson, Planning Commission;
Clayton Zimmerman, Planning Commission; Michelle Wolfe, City of Arden Hills; James
Lehnhoff, City of Arden Hills; Gen McJilton, Ryan Rehbein Land Development, LLC; Bruce
Chamberlain, HKGi; JeffMcMenimen, HKGi
Meeting attendees introduced themselves.
Mr. McMenimen stated that over the past several weeks they had been working through some
critical transportation planning efforts with regards to future interchanges at Highway 10 and
Highway 96. They looked at traffic patterns and numbers today and projected traffic patterns
and numbers based on the build out of TCAAP and other surrounding factors. They were
proceeding with the planning work under the assumption that there would be site access into
TCAAP from Highway 10. It was their goal to prepare materials of the three concept plans in a
variety of formats for the upcoming open house.
Mr. McMenimen stated that Arden Hills was invited to speak at a Design for Health seminar
(funded by Blue Cross Blue Shield) about connectivity, aspects of pedestrian walk-ability and
the three concepts for TCAAP. Planners from the metro area, who were in attendance, and
seminar organizers were able to critique the concepts. Some of the comments were:
. acknowledgement that the site was a high quality site and should be a planned
destination in the future
. consider planning for retail land uses at the south and north ends of the site
. good positioning of office use along the west to act as a traffic noise/air pollution
barrier.
. central open area was a good idea, it was within walking distance from every
future home
. preferred the road to ring the open space and homes front the open space, as in
Concept A
. views in the central green and surrounding landscape was good.
. stressed promoting connection within and without the development
. make TCAAP site accessible to all of Arden Hills community
. maybe housing market considerations were too narrow
. consider a reutilization plan for the retail power center
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. consider planning a school
. consider ground water remediation retention strategy for ponds
. consider transit ready plan for future transit needs
. conduct a connectivity analysis for each one ofthe alternatives
. connection to Rice Creek Corridor
. consider future use at the trailer park site
Mr. McMenimen walked Council and commissioners through the land use packet. He stated that
they received comments from several sources and after getting public comments at the April
open house, they would start to focus on a preferred plan direction and have a draft ofthat
preferred plan available at the June open house for comments.
Question and Answer Survey
Mr. Chamberlain stated that they were preparing a question and answer survey that would go out
to the community. The objective was to mail out the survey by April 15th. The questions and
answers were based on topics brought up at the advisory group meetings: contamination issues,
development finance and traffic and transportation issues. A draft Q & A went out to Council
members for their review. After getting the Council's comments, the one question that remained
was the issue of public finance. He asked for the Council's thought regarding whether aspects of
the public finance issue within this Q & A should be omitted, simplified or continued as drafted.
Councihnember Hohnes stated that she thought it was confusing because it was not clear
whether the public financing was local, state or federal.
Councilmember Grant thought it should be addressed. He liked the section that was pulled from
the finance policy.
Mayor Harpstead stated that he liked the commitment that we would look for financing wherever
we could; we would lobby at the federal and state levels.
Councilmember McClung stated that we needed to be honest that we would look for
opportunities at the federal and state levels, but often times the opportunities may not be
available.
Mr. McMenimen stated that a newsletter would go out in May. A draft would be put together
next week for Council review. The newsletter would include current news with the master
planning efforts, the three concepts, a summary on the open house, graphics for the three
schemes, transportation planning efforts and possibly an update on the purchase agreement.
Councilmember Holden stated that there would be a greater chance of the TCAAP newsletter
being read if it was included in the Arden Hills Notes. Details for including this newsletter with
the May issue of the Arden Hills Notes would be worked out.
Councilmember Grant asked if copies would be sent to the city halls of surrounding cities to
keep them informed.
Ms. Wolfe stated that she notified neighboring cities about the transportation open house and the
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April 26th workshop.
Mayor Harpstead suggested we also plan a separate smaller meeting where we specifically invite
federal, county, state and local representatives.
April 26th TCAAP Master Planning Workshop
Mr. Chamberlain stated that the workshop was scheduled at North Heights Church on April 26th
from 6:30-8:30 p.m. The purpose of the workshop was to help the community understand the
concept alternatives and the site access issues. The workshop would be formatted for public
discussion. To encourage dialog and discussion, tables of eight would be asked to come to a
consensus, if possible. There would be an image gallery around the room; 18 boards for land use
planning and 6-12 boards for transportation planning. The presentation, on PowerPoint, would
cover background issues, concepts, building scales and street types. It would be addressed as
part ofthe context of understanding development on the site. There would be take home
comment cards for those who want to add more information or ifthey can't stay for the entire
workshop that they could email or mail back.
Commissioner Stodola asked what was intended for the civic space.
Mr. McMenimen stated that there was not a definitive program for the civic use yet. It was land
set aside to do what was programmed in the vision framework, but there was not a specific use
identified yet. Future use could be very much civic in nature or it could be commnnity use.
Mayor Harpstead suggested that staff schedule an environmental update and an educational
meeting on financing. Ms. McJilton stated that drilling would be done at the site sometime in
June/July and an environmental update could possibly be scheduled for late summer.
Mr. McMenimen stated that part oftheir scope of work was to do a set of design guidelines. The
April open house would initiate a kick off of the whole scale and character issue that would
enable the team to develop a draft set of design guidelines to review at the June open house.
Commissioner Larson referred to the land across from Snelling between where the boundary was
now and the Ramsey County public works facility. He stated that the National Guard wanted to
get federal money do a training/community center. They wanted to transfer the divisional
headquarters which was currently in Rosemount to Arden Hills. When that happens, they may
open up some opportunities to be part of that project.
Councilmember Holden asked if there would be a road to County Road I on a concept plan.
Mr. McMenimen stated that it was on all three. He further stated that they had been working
with a specialist in dealing with roadways through wildlife corridors to come up with strategies
for creating safe wildlife crossing through that area.
Ms. Wolfe stated that the city received some criticism for putting a line through that area in a
previous drawing.
Mayor Harpstead stated that it would be helpful to have a discussion about the land. He would
call Congresswoman McCollum's office and inform them that there would be a drawing that
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Guard to get access from the north. There would be some push back from certain congressional
delegations to putting anything through the wildlife corridor.
Councilmember Holden suggested using a dashed line to show that there could be a roadway
through there, but that it was not a guarantee yet.
After further discussion, it was decided that a dashed line should be put in on all three concepts.
Mayor Harpstead adjourned the me .
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Michelle A. Wolfe
City Administrator