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CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
MAY 16, 2007; 7:30 AM
CITY HALL -- 1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
Chair Kunkel called the meeting to order at 7 :31 a.m.
Attendees: Chair Bruce Kunkel, Nancy Kneeland, Dale Beane, Chris Ashbach, Rob Davidson,
Ray McGraw, Jim Paulet, Mayor Harpstead, Community Development Director Karen Barton.
Absent: Ed Werner.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - APRIL 25.2007
The minutes from the April 25 meeting were approved as corrected.
REVIEW OF EDC PLAN
Chair Kunkel explained that currently we have two versions of the EDC plan - one the Mayor
revised and the one developed by Desco - and asked the group how they wanted to proceed with
fmalize the EDC plan.
Jim asked if we accepting both versions of the document and editing them both. Chair Kunkel
said one ofthe ideas could be to work with both documents; or, if the group so chose, they could
accept or reject one of the versions and move forward with the accepted version. The Mayor
reminded the group that it is their objective to bring a document to a Council Worksession.
Ray expressed his concerns with the current EDC plan and that it didn't fit into the needs of the
City. He indicated the group did not have to go with all of Desco's recommendations. He also
expressed what he thought were the City's main three issues at hand: curb appeal,
redevelopment, and the location ofthe current City Hall.
Chair Kunkel acknowledged Ray's passion and concerns and expressed that he thought the
Mayor is trying to develop a plan to allow the City to move forward and gather momentum.
The Mayor asked if the three items Ray expressed concern about are in the Desco version of the
EDC plan. Ray acknowledged that they were in the Desco plan.
Nancy asked if she could make a motion to proceed on the Mayor's amended plan being we have
already progressed beyond the Desco plan already. She indicated it is her desire to work on one
plan. Dale Beane seconded the motion.
Chris said he thought there wasn't enough substantial difference between the Desco plan or the
Mayor's version to lose anything by working on one versus the other.
The Mayor indicated the timing of the plan is important due to the budget cycle.
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The group agreed to work on the Mayor's version ofthe plan.
Chair Kunkel asked when this plan should be presented to Council. Karen noted that it is on the
June City Council W orksession. .
Chair Kunkel asked if there are any issues that are of significant substance that the group wanted
to discuss. The Mayor said that any strong passions should be incorporated into the Executive
Summary portion of the plan.
Nancy indicated her idea of an issue of substance for her is the City Administrator position. She
indicated she believed the Administrator should have more authority to help with the day to day
activities of the City. She thought maybe the title doesn't have to be changed from
Administrator to Manager, but maybe the Council could give more authority to the Administrator
at their discretion. The Mayor reminded the group if there were a City charter change, it would
have to go before the citizens of Arden Hills as a referendum and once passed it was not
irreversible. Nancy suggested the plan be changed by no longer suggesting the Administrator
have a title change to Manager. Chair Kunkel noted the group needed to vote on this suggestion.
Nancy moved to change paragraph 4 to reflect this change. Dale seconded. The group agreed
with the exception of Ray abstaining.
Chris expressed he thought we should focus on the City Center designation. He asked if the
group should address this item. Jim said until that TCAAP committee goes through their process
if the EDC should tackle the City Center issue. Chris indicated he thought because of the way
the freeways go through Arden Hills, that it will create an old district and a new district once
TCAAP is developed. The Mayor said there is a lot of action items embedded within the City
Center issue. Chair Kunkel expressed that he doesn't believe the plan should get into tactical
ideas but rather point out the issues. Ray said he believes the Council should be told they need to
plan to spend money on redevelopment. Rob reminded the group that the plan already does state
the City needs to plan for this. Ray said he believes we can't present a 21 page document to the
Council and expect them to approve it.
Nancy said she thought the City had already decided that the downtown district is within
TCAAP and that was evident by where the City Hall was placed. She thought anything south of
694 is going to become a suburb of Arden Hills and those living there will continue to shop
along County Road E.
Jim said he thought the group that is most interested in the City is south of 694 and there is
always going to be an interest from them in maintaining County Road E. Chair Kunkel said that
area also serves a significant portion of Shoreview. Karen noted she believes we do not have to
designate only one downtown area.
The Mayor said the big burden in the County Road E area is the bridge.
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Jim asked if the group if they truly thought City Hall was located in the wrong place. Three
members agreed that it was in the wrong place. The Mayor asked if the City should have some
kind of facility presence south of 694. Chair Kunkel said he liked the idea of some kind of City
presence south of 694. Jim said he thought as a result of the City Hall being in a wrong place
then that is why he believes discussion is occurring as to placing a City presence south of 694.
Chris said he didn't think in his estimation a city presence south of 694 wouldn't make a
difference to business activity. The Mayor said the curb appeal in that area is suffering and one
ofthe ways other cities have changed this problem is to put in a City facility.
Nancy asked if a committee could be formed to look at redevelopment. Chair Kunkel said he
thought a lot of the City's current committees have a similar goal but are operating on their own
sphere. He asked if bringing the City committees together could help bring a united front to City
Council. Karen said she could put together another committee but she believes the EDC could
serve in that capacity with the PTRC and PC. She said in her previous experience other
committees were brought in to EDC meetings when needed.
The Mayor asked Karen to put her thoughts together on her previous experience with EDC plans
and present it at the next EDC meeting.
Jim asked why they couldn't ask the other City committees to give their input and help finalize
the document. Nancy said the group could make this recommendation. Rob thought this would
delay the process and the group needs to start doing things and stop talking. Rob said he
believes the group is trying to get a blue print so they know how they can move forward and
after this blueprint is approved, they can start working on action items.
Jim indicated it appeared to him the Council did not look upon the group in a favorable manner.
The Mayor said he would ask each Council member their impression of the group and let the
group know Council's feelings.
Chair Kunkel said he believes what he is hearing is that the group wants to get moving forward.
He said if the group feels comfortable with this current document that they can take a vote or it
can continue to be worked on at the next meeting.
Rob moved and Dale seconded a motion to accept the document and present it. Chris said he
thought it was a good idea to present the document as is and at least get input from the Council
so they can continue working on it.
Dale asked if we are trying to develop a City plan or satisfying just a couple council members.
The Mayor said he hoped it was the latter. Rob said he thought it was okay for the group to
present a document that maybe wasn't quite perfect just so they can get some starting point.
Chair Kunkel said he would not want to go to Council and have them fully reject the plan. He
said he wants them to be able to say this is an acceptable vision and have them buy into with
some tweaking so they have ownership.
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Ray asked if the Executive Summary is supposed to combine everything in the document. Chair
Kunkel said that is the reason for an Executive Summary.
The Mayor reminded the group that it shouldn't be considering asking the Council for money at
this point when they do not know where the money is coming from and what they should be
asking Council is to "walk with them" on the plan.
Chair Kunkel suggested that next Wednesday's meeting include a vote on whether to present the
current document or not to Council as is. He also said the meeting should include Karen's
presentation on past experiences. Karen also indicated Business Licensing, the 5-year ClP, and
some redevelopment marking pieces also needed to be discussed at next week's meeting.
Rob said the new president of Anchor Bank will be on the next meeting.
Karen indicated Chesapeake Companies may be attending the June EDC meeting.
She also indicated there is a joint picnic with the PTRC, PC, EDC, and CC on July 17 at a park
location to be determined.
NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the EDC is scheduled for May 23,2007 at 7:30 a.m.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:56 a.m.
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