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Approved: July 27,2009
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING
JUNE 15, 2009
5:00 P.M. - ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Stan Harpstead called to order
the City Council Work Session meeting at 5:05 p.m.
Present: Mayor Stan Harpstead; Council Members Brenda Holden, Fran
Holmes (arrived at 5: 10 p.m.), and Dave McClung.
Absent: Council Member David Grant.
Also present: City Administrator Ron Moorse; Public Works Director
Gregory Hoag; Finance Director Susan Iverson; Civil Engineer Kristine
Giga; City Engineer Deb Bloom; Park and Recreation Manager Michelle
Olson and Beth Kunkel Kimley-Horn.
APPROVE AGENDA
Mayor Harpstead indicated City Administrator Moorse had an additional item for
discussion. City Administrator Moorse indicated he would like to add a 10-
minute discussion on scheduling software called Share Point. Mayor Harpstead
suggested this item be discussed after items A and B along with moving up Item E
to allow Councilmember Holmes to participate. The agenda was approved with the
noted changes.
1. AGENDA ITEMS
A. Safe Routes to School/DNR Proiect Update
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Park and Recreation Manager Olson presented the City Council with
information on the Safe Routes to School/DNR Project. She reviewed that the City
received ARRA funding to assist in this trail connection to the Elmer L. Anderson
trail near Perry Park and the Lake Valentine Elementary School.
City Engineer Deb Bloom further reviewed the success of obtaining the ARRA
funding from the State. She explained only 10 projects were funded through these
funds and gave a brief overview of what would be covered through the funds.
City Engineer Bloom introduced Beth Kunkel from Kimley-Horn who has been
working with the city on the wetland requirements. City Engineer Bloom noted
involvement of four different agencies would be needed to complete this work:
FEMA, DNR, the Army Corps of Engineers and Rice Creek Watershed.
City Engineer Bloom reviewed the project timeline in detail explaining that
several permits would need to be granted before the work could begin.
Mayor Harpstead questioned if this item needed Council approval before
proceeding.
Park and Recreation Manager Olson stated the information presented was
merely information and that staff has all of the approvals necessary to proceed.
Councilmember Holden asked if the Safe Routes to School sidewalk could begin
prior to receiving the permits.
Park and Recreation Manager Olson stated that all permits would need to be in
place before the project could begin. She explained that this project wasn't
expected to begin until early spring of 2010. All environmental documentation
including permits must be approved before November 13, 2009 in order to secure
the ARRA funds.
Councilmember Holden questioned the expense of the project to the City.
City Engineer Bloom reviewed the expense of the project indicating that the City
would be responsible for $84,608 for Safe Routes to School and $25,750 for Perry
Park. It was reiterated that the grant funds were only to be used for construction
and did not cover the permit and engineering/administrative fees.
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Park and Recreation Manager Olson stated that the city received a $10,000
donation from Boston Scientific for this project noting they were very supportive
of the safe routes to school program.
Mayor Harpstead thanked staff for the information presented and for working so
well with the agencies needed to complete this project.
Councilmember McClung thanked staff as well for their efforts on this project.
It was the consensus of the City Council to direct staff to proceed with the Safe
Routes to School/DNR Project as presented.
B. Celebrating Arden Hills
Park and Recreation Manager Olson presented the City Council with
information on Celebrating Arden Hills. She explained that Council made it a goal
at the Annual Retreat for the PTRC to discuss the future of this event.
Park and Recreation Manager Olson indicated this was discussed in detail at a
PTRC meeting with the consensus of the group being to create a subcommittee to
allow those interested to become more involved. She stated at this time there are
five members on the committee with the first meeting being held on May 26,2009.
Park and Recreation Manager Olson noted the next step would be to set a date
and begin structuring the event budget. She indicated there were competing events
during the summer and that a fall festival could be a possibility.
Park and Recreation Manager Olson stated the subcommittee would continue
discussions and has generated several great ideas already. She noted the group
would seek sponsorship from local businesses to assist with the budget. The
budget from the 2006 event was reviewed.
Park and Recreation Manager Olson questioned what the Council would be
comfortable with for the budgeted event in 2010. She also asked for additional
comments or questions that the Council may have that could be brought back to the
subcommittee.
Further discussion ensued regarding the potential date of the event. It was noted
that the City would receive more involvement from local businesses if held on a
weekday.
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Councilmember Holden stated it would not be economically responsible for the
City to be spending $50,000 on a festival with the state of the economy.
Mayor Harpstead indicated that the levy limits could also play into the planning
of this event as well.
Councilmember McClung explained that a tax increase could not be justified to
assist in funding this event, based on the current stated of the economy.
Councilmember Holden stated she would like to see the event planned in such a
way that it encouraged community interaction.
Mayor Harpstead suggested a Friday afternoon event, with vendors providing
food, music, entertainment, etc. with the evening ending with fireworks. He stated
his top end for the event would be $25,000.
Councilmember McClung agreed stating he felt the event should be no more than
$25,000 and that donations should be sought by the subcommittee to assist in the
expense that the city's contribution was limited to $10,000 to $15,000.
Mayor Harpstead suggested that any surpluses from 2009 be funneled into an
account for the celebration. The Council was in favor of this recommendation in
hopes of having $10,000-$15,000 to contribute to the event.
Councilmember Holden suggested that donations be sought from the community
for cash along with other donations for the event. She indicated the EDC should be
contacted as well to see if they would like to participate in a showcase of local
businesses at the event.
It was the consensus of the City Council to pass along this information to the
Celebrating Arden Hills subcommittee.
E. Council Communications
City Administrator Moorse explained that Councilmember Holmes has raised a
question about the communication tools being used by the Council at this time and
if there was a way to improve the way information is shared between the
Councilmembers and staff.
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Councilmember Holmes stated she would like to be able to better pass
information onto the other Councilmembers and questioned if this was in violation
of any open meeting regulations.
City Administrator Moorse cautioned the Council from passing along too many
emails but that messages could be sent for informational purposes. He stated that
these messages should not be replied to.
Mayor Harpstead suggested that these informational emails be printed and placed
on the public materials table at the next public meeting. Councilmember Holmes
agreed.
Discussion ensued regarding the Council's retention policy in handling electronic
communications.
Finance Director Iverson stated the City of Roseville was drafting a data privacy
policy at this time that would be adopted by the entire Metro- Inet Group once
completed.
Mayor Harpstead suggested staff present the Council with some email retention
guidelines at a future meeting.
F. Scheduling Software - Share Point
Finance Director Iverson indicated that the City has established an email address
for each Councilmember through the City's server. She reviewed the instructions
on how to get to these accounts through Share Point in detail.
Councilmember Holden questioned why the new accounts were created.
Finance Director Iverson stated this would assist in a central calendar for the
Councilmembers. She noted the Council would have access to a single calendar
through the City's Intranet to allow meetings to be scheduled more easily.
Finance Director Iverson stated the information on this site was considered
public. She explained there were many features available on this site that the
Council could use to post public information.
Discussion ensued regarding the new intranet system.
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Mayor Harpstead suggested that the new data privacy policy be considered with
this communication tool. He asked that this item be used by the Council for the
next several months and brought back for further discussion to see how it was
working.
C. Public Works PMP & Equipment Replacement Plan
Civil Engineer Giga reviewed concerns previously brought to staff about the
condition of some of the seal coated streets. Staff reviewed these streets in the field
and determined that the seal coat was performing well, but the pavement beneath
the seal coat was dry & causing the peeling of the pavement. She indicated the 5
year PMP was adjusted to include these streets within mill and overly projects.
Mayor Harpstead questioned if the Valentine Avenue neighborhood moved up in
the maintenance sequence.
Civil Engineer Giga reviewed the proposed 5-year street improvement schedule
with the Council.
Councilmember Holden expressed concerns with the condition of West Floral
Drive.
Public Works Director Hoag stated the neighborhood does need to be
reconstructed but that it was not as bad as some of the other neighborhoods.
Councilmember Holden questioned why there were so many watermain breaks in
one area of the City near Venus and Fairview. She asked if they were fixed in 2004
if they should need repair again in the near future.
Civil Engineer Giga stated multiple breaks in one area indicated the poor
condition of the soil and pipe overall.
Councilmember Holmes questioned if the recurrent PMP plan took into account
watermain breaks.
Public Works Director Hoag indicated the soil conditions impacted the
conditions of the streets and water main pipes greatly.
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Civil Engineer Giga explained the age of the pipes was considered along with the
condition. She noted on previous drafts, West Round Lake Road was due on 2012,
which was removed at this time.
Mayor Harpstead questioned if the TIF dollars could be used for this project and
incorporated into the PMP schedule.
Finance Director Iverson stated she would resend to the TIF analysis memo to the
council on eligible uses for TIF funds the city currently has.
Mayor Harpstead stated he would also like to see a traffic count from Old
Snelling if available.
Councilmember Holden indicated she would like to see an expense run to fix all
the potholes along Old Snelling to review against the full replacement expense.
Mayor Harpstead questioned how much a feasibility study would be.
Civil Engineer Giga projected the engineering costs to be 20% of the construction
costs, with the feasibility report being 10% for the Old Snelling project costs. She
stated a survey of the conditions could be completed.
Councilmember Holden expressed concern for the cost of this project and
questioned how it would be assessed as the City may end up paying for 90% of the
$2 million.
Civil Engineer Giga explained this was a State Aid street, which the Council
should keep in mind, to assist in offsetting the expense.
Mayor Harpstead clarified that State Aid funds could be used on the Valentine
Avenue neighborhood and that the financials should reflect this.
Further discussion ensued regarding the upcoming major pavement projects within
the City.
Councilmember McClung suggested completing larger projects every couple of
years to allow the City to receive a greater economy of scale while also allowing
the City. to replenish their funding sources on the years no projects were completed.
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Councilmember Holmes indicated the City would not want to miss out on MSA
funding if the schedule were to change. She stated she did not want to see the City
resort to bonding.
City Administrator Moorse stated he would not object to shifting around
reconstruction projects but that the overlay projects should not be delayed as it
could affect the base of the roadways.
Councilmember Holden agreed.
Mayor Harpstead agreed that this could become a concern but stated the City may
benefit from completing a large project at once using MSA funds and bonding. He
suggested North Valentine, South Valentine and Valentine Park be completed as
one project and financed together.
Councilmember Holmes stated she may be in favor of this, as an exception and
not the rule.
Public Works Director Hoag cautioned the Council from shifting around the
reconstruction and overlay schedule too greatly as it would continue to shift the
expenses from year to year. He explained that the PMP schedule is laid out to
provide manageable projects long term from the public works perspective.
Councilmember Holden suggested the Council proceed as staff has proposed with
Valentine North, while information is gathered for Valentine South.
Civil Engineer Giga stated the earliest Valentine South could be ready would be
2011 in order to complete the survey, neighborhood meetings, etc.
Mayor Harpstead suggested that staff report back to Council on the Old Snelling
project with something lower than a full feasibility report to see how this project
can be amended.
Discussion ensued regarding the Arden View Drive and who would be assessed for
this proj ect.
Civil Engineer Giga indicated the townhome association would be assessed for the
overlay. She stated that she would look into how this would be completed and
report back to the Council.
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Public Works Director Hoag reviewed equipment information with the Council
and apologized for not getting the information to them in a more timely fashion.
He noted the primary focus was on the next two years, focusing on the needs and
condition of the current equipment. Public Works Director Hoag asked for
comments or questions from Council.
Councilmember Holden noted $116,000 was being requested in 2010 for two
vehicles.
Mayor Harpstead agreed with this recommendation as it would provide the
department the type of vehicles they needed to complete their work without
needing a different vehicle later on.
Public Works Director Hoag stated this was the case; the suggested purchase
would eliminate the need for a I-ton dump truck in the future which would be
replaced by a pick-up truck. He indicated a large part of this purchase was the
$14,000 lifting crane for pulling pumps.
Mayor Harpstead questioned the age of the vehicle being replaced along with the
miles on it.
Public Works Director Hoag stated the vehicle was over nine years old and had
over 112,000 miles with a twisted frame. He noted this vehicle was used daily to
check the pumps, water towers and complete Gopher One calls. This vehicle is
used daily as the workhorse for the City.
Mayor Harpstead indicated he was in favor of this vehicle purchase and stated the
other vehicle purchase would allow the City to work on sidewalks, switching from
a John Deere tractor to a bobcat. He noted it would cost less than replacing the
existing tractor.
Public Works Director Hoag explained that after thorough evaluation this
recommendation made the most sense. He indicated that the John Deere would be
sold if the new purchase was approved.
Councilmember Holden asked for clarification on the bobcat purchase and if this
would assist the City with five and six foot sidewalks.
Public Works Director Hoag stated there were numerous options with
attachments, allowing for five or six foot sidewalks to be cleared.
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Councilmember Holden questioned how the bobcat would work on an incline and
on the City trails.
Public Works Director Hoag stated this was an articulating 4-wheel drive vehicle
and has heard no complaints from other cities on this piece of equipment.
Councilmember McClung questioned what the resale value would be for the John
Deere tractor.
Public Works Director Hoag projected that the resale value would be good for a
20-year-old vehicle, as it was in good condition.
Mayor Harpstead indicated his concern was in 2011 as he was not crazy about the
cost of a combination Jet Vac. He felt they were not used enough hours to warrant
a new purchase and questioned if they could be jointly purchased with a
neighboring community.
Councilmember Holden questioned what was wrong with the vehicle
mechanically and how the City used this vehicle.
Public Works Director Hoag explained how the vehicle was used to clean the
sewers each year, along with clearing emergency sewer blockages. He stated the
body of the vehicle was starting to deteriorate.
Councilmember McClung indicated the exterior of the vehicle did not warrant the
purchase of a new vehicle, as it was in good mechanical order.
Public Works Director Hoag stated the timing of this purchase was important as
the City could get several more years out of the vehicle but that the replacement
expense could then increase in the future.
Further discussion ensued regarding the replacement of the jetter and vactor
vehicles.
Mayor Harpstead expressed concern on the combination of the jet-vac. He
suggested that additional preventative maintenance be considered.
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Public Works Director Hoag stated that he would not be replacing equipment that
did not need replacement and that the future equipment expenses could be reduced
if at all possible.
Mayor Harpstead thanked staff for pulling together this information and for
providing a good discussion on these upcoming expenditures.
Public Works Director Hoag explained how the capital expenditure funds have
been designed to cover the large expenses based on the five-year plan through
enterprise funds.
D. Police Services
City Administrator Moorse reviewed the current arrangement of police services
provided by Ramsey County. He stated the main overall question was if the City
was satisfied with the general level of service.
Councilmember McClung indicated it was difficult to evaluate their services
because they do not provide the City with requested information. He stated he was
horribly dissatisfied with the information received from Ramsey County.
Councilmember Holden explained she saw a police presence on County roads but
that they should be patrolling the Arden Hills City streets as well, and let the
County general fund pay for the patrols along the County roads. She stated that
there needs to be a presence in the neighborhoods on a daily basis.
Mayor Harpstead stated he felt the agreement was written well but the question
remains if the City was gaining through the scope of services provided. He further
reviewed the details within the agreement. Mayor Harpstead indicated there were
concerns with the level of service being provided to the City.
Councilmember Holden agreed stating she was disappointed with the lack of
enforcement with overnight parking in a City park. Signs do not have to be posted
to enforce this as it was written in City code.
Further discussion ensued regarding the police services provided to the City of
Arden Hills.
Mayor Harpstead suggested that each Councilmember draft a letter with bullet
points to be reviewed with the sheriff in a meeting. He stated he wanted to assure
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that the budget was following the agreement and if the police activities were
following the agreement.
Councilmember McClung questioned if the agreement would now be renewed
year to year or every three years.
City Administrator Moorse stated the contract did have a three-year term and
could be cancelled with a nine-month notice.
Mayor Harpstead suggested the City Attorney review this agreement as well and
compare it to other City's that he represents.
Councilmember McClung indicated Allina has invested into GPS tracking
software for ambulances, which allows them to monitor where each vehicle is at
any given moment. He noted this would be useful to assist the City in monitoring
where the patrol vehicles are within Arden Hills.
Councilmember McClung added that the City needs further information on how
the County was meeting the needs of the City and upholding the current agreement.
City Administrator Moorse asked if staff should work for changes on the
agreement or begin seeking a new provider. He stated there definitely needed to be
an increased presence and directed patrols within the City.
Councilmember Holden stated it took a lot of time and effort to find the current
provider.
Councilmember McClung indicated that an RFP would allow the City to further
evaluate the performance of the services provided to the City. He suggested the
current response times be reviewed to calls within the City.
2. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
Park and Recreation Manager Olson stated an application was turned in today
for the Bridge and connecting trail for County Road E. She noted the bid came in
at $1,050,900 for the entire project including a trail from Old Snelling to the
proposed bridge. Park and Recreation Manager Olson indicated this information
would be passed along to Council for further review.
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Park and Recreation Manager Olson explained that Royal Hills has a large bank
of flowers above a retaining wall that is full of poison ivy. She stated it continues
to be a problem and questioned if the Council would be in favor of transplanting
the plants this fall to other gardens with wildflowers planted into this space, to
reduce the maintenance needed.
Mayor Harpstead indicated he had no problems with this suggestion but
cautioned that the poison ivy be completely killed off to eliminate the concern. He
suggested a master gardener be contacted to reduce the maintenance in this area
while reducing the poison ivy.
Councilmember Holden questioned why the plants were being transplanted. She
felt that it was not worth the risk.
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