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Approved: October 12, 2009
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL TCAAP WORK SESSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 14, 2009
5:00 P.M. - ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Stan Harpstead called to order
the City Council TCAAP Work Session meeting at 5:04 p.m.
Present: Mayor Stan Harpstead
Council Member David Grant
Council Member Brenda Holden
Council Member Fran Holmes
Council Member Dave McClung
Absent: None
Also present: City Administrator Ron Moorse
Finance Director Sue Iverson
Community Development Director James Lehnhoff -
City Attorney Jerry Filla
1. AGENDA ITEMS
A. TIF Legislation
City Administrator Moorse presented the City Council with information on the
TIF legislation the City worked on with the former TCAAP developer. He
explained the legislation was passed and needed work on several items should the
City wish to use the special legislation in the future.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff stated that the Council needs to
accept the special legislation through a resolution. The resolution does not create
a TIF district. After the City has passed a resolution, the City will need to work
with the school board and County to approve a similar resolution. All three
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government units need to approve the special legislation in order to be able to use it
in the future.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff explained that Steve Bubul
recommended getting the resolutions approved before the start of the 20 10
legislative session.
Councilmember Holden stated she was not interested in creating a 30-year district
and did not see this as an advantage as there was no longer a partner.
Mayor Harpstead indicated the resolution would simply approve the ability to use
the site through special legislation. He explained the TIF legislation was an asset.
Councilmember McClung noted the City did not have to use the special
legislation, but felt it was an available tool. Councilmember Holmes agreed.
It was the consensus of Council to direct staff to bring forward a resolution
regarding approval of the special TIF legislation.
B. TCAAP Reuse Planning Process and Timeline
Community Development Director Lehnhoff reviewed past discussions on the
reuse of the TCAAP site, along with the continued planning process for a regional
park. He stated a general timeline would assist with this planning. -
Community Development Director Lehnhoff reviewed the timelines for the two
simultaneous planning processes the City is following. He noted one of the
planning processes relates to the public sale and reviewed how this may affect the
2030 Comprehensive Plan. The second reuse planning process was a regional park
through special legislation.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff explained that with either plan the
Council may need to address the 2030 Comprehensive Plan to make adjustments, if
necessary, or have it remain as the default. He reviewed the Comprehensive Plan
amendment timeline and questioned if the Council was considering modification or
keeping the current 2030 Comprehensive Plan as a default.
Discussion ensued regarding the amount of work that would be needed from staff
to address the Comprehensive Plan before the public land sale would begin.
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Mayor Harpstead questioned if the current staff could complete the work
explained in the timeline, or if additional staffing would be needed.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff indicated staff may need assistance
on certain parts.
Councilmember McClung asked how a public sale would affect park dedication.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff explained that the park dedication
fee depends on the land use and, for residential, the number of units. The City
could charge a park dedication fee or require a land dedication.
City Attorney Filla explained that the City would need to determine how the park
dedication requirement would be applied. It could be a for a larger centralized
park, a number of smaller parks, or a combination.
Councilmember McClung questioned if this plan could be worked into the
closing of the public auction.
City Attorney Filla stated the plan could be completed at that time, but if zoning
changes were needed the Council should address this prior to the public auction.
Councilmember Holmes questioned if the City had a specific land use for
parkland. -
Community Development Director Lehnhoff indicated at this time all parks were
zoned residential and did not have a separate zoning district.
Councilmember Holmes asked if the City had funds set aside for planning within
TCAAP.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff reviewed that funds were set aside
for future planning which could be used for TCAAP or Red Fox/Grey Fox small
area plan.
Mayor Harpstead reviewed the three options before the Council tonight as being:
1.) implement the existing 2030 Comprehensive Plan; 2.) review the regional park
concept; or, 3.) have staff find a combination of the first two options.
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Community Development Director Lehnhoff indicated that staff was moving
forward on the regional park planning as directed by Council but noted the public
sale process was also moving forward and stated that there may be advantages to
modifying the 2030 Comprehensive Plan.
Mayor Harpstead explained the Council had informed the GSA the zoning would
be brought into compliance within the 2030 Comprehensive Plan. He questioned if
this would then be changed again.
Councilmember Holden expressed concern for the residents living south of CR 96
and questioned if a trail could be created to reach the Rice Creek corridor.
Mayor Harpstead asked if the Comprehensive Plan had to be amended to create a
trail in this area from CR 96 to the Rice Lake corridor.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff stated the Comprehensive Plan
would not need to be amended but would be a stronger Plan with this level of detail
included. He stated staff was looking for guidance on the possibility of amending
the 2030 Comprehensive Plan since developing zoning requires a significant
amount of work. -
Further discussion ensued regarding the Comprehensive Plan amendments versus
zoning changes and the level of detail needed within these plans.
Mayor Harpstead suggested staff seek information from other communities on -
how a large parcel of land has moved without completed zoning and report back to
the Council.
Councilmember Holmes indicated the transportation plan for the site would vary
greatly due to the density changes of a new development with reduced access to the
site.
Mayor Harpstead explained the Council would need to address access issues with
a potential buyer.
City Attorney Filla stated the City would greatly benefit by reviewing the
Comprehensive Plan, determining if amendments are needed, and developing
zoning regulations before the public sale.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff suggested he create a summary of
Comprehensive Plan details with regard to TCAAP, to see what parts are valid and
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which may need to change. He indicated the City was under a bit of pressure to
gather the information needed by the GSA as they proceed with the public sale.
The first bidder's conference was estimated to be held at the end of October.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff explained that once the land use
was further determined it would be easier for bidders to move forward on the
property. However, the City needs to determine what the best uses were for the
site.
Mayor Harpstead questioned if staff had the time to pursue the reality of a
regional park.
Councilmember Holden stated that if staff did not have the time, the Council
would have to live with the current state of the Comprehensive Plan, as there would
not be a 4/5's agreement to make amendments.
City Attorney Filla reviewed the votes needed for various zoning and land density
changes with the Council.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff suggested that Council continue to
email him with questions or comments on this issue.
It was the consensus of Council to direct staff seek information on large parcel land
zoning, along with a summary of the TCAAP Comprehensive Plan details and -
report back to Council.
C. TCAAP Reimbursable Expenses
City Administrator Moorse presented the City Council with information on the
TCAAP reimbursable expenses. He noted the City has been working with Ryan
Companies to resolve differences related to reimbursable expenses. The Finance
Director and City Administrator met with Eric Anderson, a representative from
Ryan Companies on Thursday, September 10, 2009.
City Administrator Moorse indicated the City presented Ryan Companies with
specific information on expenditures and activities to show they were TCAAP
related and authorized by Ryan Companies. Mr. Anderson's focus was that several
items were over and above the budget set out in the PDA.
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City Administrator Moorse explained that Mr. Anderson proposed a settlement
having the City cover half of the expenses over the PDA budgetary amount and that
Ryan Companies would pay for the rest of the expenditures that are currently
outstanding. He indicated he would like general comments from the Council on
how to proceed on this issue to continue to resolve this issue.
Mayor Harpstead questioned if staff was looking for a resolution from the
Council. He asked if this would be premature if the negotiations were still open.
City Administrator Moorse indicated this would be an option if the Council
would like to take specific formal action and provide direction.
City Attorney Filla agreed that the City was still in negotiations and did not feel
the Council should create a resolution until further details have been worked
through.
Mayor Harpstead questioned if some of the items were resolved and taken off the
books right away.
City Administrator Moorse indicated staff attempted to do that and Ryan
Companies was not prepared to take anything off of the table at this time. They
were looking to get to an overall settlement.
Mayor Harpstead asked if Mr. Anderson would be going back and speaking with -
his management team.
City Administrator Moorse stated this was the case and that the spreadsheet
discussed with Mike Comadeca was reviewed with Mr. Anderson in great detail
and would be brought back to his management team.
Councilmember Holden questioned what direction the Council should be taking
at this time.
City Administrator Moorse stated the Council could provide some general
direction about areas of flexibility.
Mayor Harpstead noted the Council did express some flexibility on the CR96 and
TH 10 intersection.
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Councilmember Holmes asked if the next step would be mediation and questioned
the expense of this.
City Attorney Filla stated this was the case and estimated the expense to be
roughly $5,000.
Mayor Harpstead suggested the Council allow staff some flexibility, potentially
on the Bolton & Menk TH10/CR96 expenditures, which would allow for a $65,000
reduction. He stated he would like to see this issue move on and have the City
resume its business.
Councilmember Holden was in agreement with this suggestion regarding Bolton
& Menk.
City Administrator Moorse indicated staff may need to provide additional
rationale when addressing this issue with Ryan Companies.
Discussion ensued regarding the TIF expenditures, along with Bolton & Menk and
Mike Comodeca.
Mayor Harpstead suggested the City propose to cover TH 1 0/CR96 expenditures,
the office support and half of Mike Comodeca's expenses, which would be roughly
$70,000.
Councilmember Holden indicated that Mike Comodeca was used by Ryan
Companies over their own attorneys and felt that his expenses were all TCAAP
related.
Councilmember McClung agreed stating he would be in favor of getting rid of the
Bolton & Menk TH 1 0/CR96 expenditures. He stated this would be a good starting
point.
It was the consensus of Council to direct staff to allow some flexibility with the
Bolton & Menk expenditures and the office support expenditures when continuing
discussions with Ryan Companies.
D. Ramsey County Board Work Session Date
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City Administrator Moorse asked that the Council select a date to meet with the
Ramsey County Board to discuss the regional TCAAP park. He indicated there
were two options, one being October 20th and the other being November l Ot''. The
concern with waiting until November I oth was whether the County Board would
have enough time to take action regarding the park concept.
Councilmember McClung questioned what action would be needed from the
County Board in order for this issue to proceed.
City Administrator Moorse stated Betty McCollum's office would like to hear
from the City and that we either have or do not have a partner to assume
responsibility for the property.
Councilmember Holmes expressed concern about waiting until November loth as
it would run into the holiday season and there would be less opportunity for action
to be taken. She indicated the Council was not trying to leave anyone out from the
meeting but that the October 20th meeting was the first one that worked.
Councilmember McClung indicated this would also be jeopardized if not all
Councilmember's were present at the October 20th meeting. He explained that he
had a vacation planned for that week and would not be able to attend.
Mayor Harpstead noted it would benefit the City to show a united front before the
County Board. He added however, that each Councilmember would be able to
speak on their own behalf as elected officials of the City of Arden Hills.
Mayor Harpstead suggested the residents weigh in on this issue to see how they
feel about a regional park on the TCAAP site. He questioned if a public meeting
should be held to discuss this further.
Councilmember McClung was in favor of holding a public meeting and gathering
comments from the residents.
Councilmember Holden and Councilmember Holmes were not in favor of
holding a public meeting. Councilmember Grant agreed.
Councilmember Holden asked if there were funds available to prepare and hold
such a meeting. She indicated so many differing opinions would be heard and that
no clear direction may be gained.
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Further discussion ensued regarding the potential meeting date and the TCAAP
development concerns.
It was the consensus of Council to direct staff to request a meeting with the County
Board on October 20, 2009.
2. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
There was nothing at this time.
Mayor Harpstead adjourned the City Council TCAAP Work Session meeting at
6:43 p.m.
Stan 114sKeael Ronald J. ?&oorse
Mayor City Administrator