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Approved: March 8, 20 10
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL TCAAP WORK SESSION MEETING
JUKE 89 2009
5:30 P.M. - ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Stan Harpstead called to order
the City Council Work Session meeting at 5:33 p.m.
Present: Mayor Stan Harpstead; Council Members David Grant (arrived
at 5:45 p.m.), Brenda Holden, and Dave McClung.
Absent: Council Member Fran Holmes.
Also present: City Administrator Ron Moorse; Finance Director Susan
Iverson; and Community Development Director James Lehnhoff.
1. AGENDA ITEMS
A. TCAAP Communications/Legislative Relations Planning
City Administrator Moorse reviewed a letter written by Councilmember Holmes
regarding TCAAP indicating that she was not in favor of a communications/
legislative relations plan at this time. He further read that Councilmember
Holmes was in favor of TCAAP becoming an open space, as was agreed upon 3/2
by the Council last month at the TCAAP worksession, and felt the Council did not
need to prepare for Representative McCollum's listening session.
Mayor Harpstead requested staff review the TCAAP Communications and
Legislative Relations with Council to see if the Council will proceed with further
discussions.
City Administrator Moorse reviewed a number of items with the Council
including a list of target audiences and a proposed list of messages for the public.
He explained that these items were provided to assist the Council in sending a
common message.
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Mayor Harpstead stated tonight's discussion would start with memorializing and
understanding the discussion held at the last work session and which direction the
Council was willing to pursue.
Councilmember Holden indicated she felt the Council was, with a majority,
pursuing one option for the TCAAP site at this time. She stated a large open
space/park was the option at this time.
Mayor Harpstead explained that he did not see the past discussion as being a
statement providing only one option for the site but that the first option to pursue
was the park/open space.
Councilmember McClung indicated he did see the discussion as a consensus for a
park/open space and a public conveyance of the TCAAP site. He noted there may
have been side comments for commercial along the highway along with energy use
on the site, but that there has been no official vote by the Council.
Councilmember McClung stated he was concerned if the City would have a single
position to proceed with Representative McCollum at her listening session, and that
he was not in favor with the park/open space recommendation. He was in favor of
holding additional discussions regarding the meeting with Representative
McCollum.
Councilmember McClung then questioned how the City would proceed with the
Army and GSA going forward. He expressed concern on how the City's position
would be taken and how involved the Council should be in this process.
Councilmember Grant arrived at 5:45 p.m. and was updated by Mayor
Harpstead as to the previous discussions.
Councilmember Holden indicated she has always been an advocate increasing
communications between the City and legislative representatives. She questioned
why this hasn't been discussed in the past and felt there wasn't any formal direction
for this item.
Councilmember Grant noted there has been communication plans in the past but
have not been carried out, with one letter sent out in 2008.
Councilmember Holden questioned why the Council was starting with a
communication plan before deciding on a clear direction for the TCAAP site.
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Mayor Harpstead then asked how the Council should begin setting direction for
the site.
Councilmember Holden indicated she felt Representative McCollum would be
taking the lead on this issue. She suggested the City find out how she wishes to
proceed, and ask to be at the table as this issue moved forward. Councilmember
Holden reiterated the fact that the TCAAP land was not the City of Arden Hills
property.
Councilmember McClung agreed but noted this was not Representative
McCollum's property either. He stated he did want to see the City move forward
working jointly with the Army, GSA, and Representative McCollum.
Councilmember Holden expressed a great deal of frustration in dealing with the
Army and GSA as they have withheld information and delayed past plans for the
site.
Mayor Harpstead noted that he respected Councilmember Holden's opinion, but
disagreed with this statement. He indicated he had the utmost respect for the
individuals on the other side of the table as they have been willing to work with the
City to understand our issues.
Mayor Harpstead explained that he felt it would benefit the City to put the wants
and desires of the City Council on the table for further discussion. He added that
there has been a lack of honest transparent leadership on both sides.
Councilmember Grant questioned if this could be accomplished before the 22"d at
a Council meeting. He suspected that this item would be mostly driven by
Representative McCollum and recommended that the City work with her.
Mayor Harpstead agreed that the City should be in contact with Representative
McCollum to assist in the creation of a communications plan going forward. He
asked then how the Council would like to proceed.
Councilmember Holden stated she was not in favor of a mixed use development
on this site and that she would like to wait to see the outcome of the park and open
space concept. She stated the mixed use would not benefit the City in the same
manner as an open space for the community.
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Mayor Harpstead agreed that open space was vital to the community but added
that there needed to be a public-private partnership for this brownfield
redevelopment. He added that the City could benefit from some commercial
development on this site.
Councilmember McClung asked how the City was to derive a viable plan for this
site that was agreeable to all those on Council.
Councilmember Holden stated the City did not have a purchase option at this time
and therefore, had no reason to create a development plan for this site.
Councilmember McClung indicated his comments to the Army and GSA going
forward would then be to bring on the public sale and allow the free market to run
its course.
Mayor Harpstead handed out information to the Council regarding the potential
development of an international motorsports speedway on the TCAAP site and the
development that goes with it. He stated no further discussion was needed at this
time and was for informational purposes.
Councilmember McClung indicated his view at this time would be to monitor the
development of this site through planning and zoning of the land. He suggested
something similar to the B2 zoning plan be created and implemented along with a
development moratorium to allow the City to update this information.
Discussion ensued regarding the future of this property on how it should be zoned.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff explained that the current zoning
code would not support the potential racetrack concept. He indicated permitted
uses were listed in the code.
Councilmember McClung questioned when the zoning on the land would be
completed if the land were to be up for public sale to encourage certain
developments on the site.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff stated the City would want to look
into the zoning code as soon as the timeline is known for the land sale. He
indicated once the land was sold, a 12 month moratorium could be placed on the
site but it is better to review what the zoning should be on the land before the sale.
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Councilmember McClung questioned if a moratorium could be placed on a
smaller piece of the site if it were to be sold off in parcels.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff explained this could be done as
allowed in state law after the land was transferred from federal to private
ownership.
Mayor Harpstead indicated if the zoning were to be changed in such a way that it
impinged upon the value, the City would have an obligation to the Buyer.
Community Development Director Lehnhoff indicated that the City would only
be liable if they were to remove all economic use or if the government were to
place something on the site the owner did not want. He further reviewed what
qualified as a "taking" of land as well, but stated an attorney would be able to
better advise the City.
There was no consensus or direction given to staff on this item.
B. TCAAP — Preparation for Representative McCollum Listening Session
Mayor Harpstead stated each Councilmember would have to prepare their own
comments for Representative McCollum due to the fact there was no consensus
among the Council at this time.
Mayor Harpstead read a note from City Administrator Moorse informing the
community there will be a listening session on Monday, June 22"d at the Ramsey
County Public Works Facility from 5:30-6:30 p.m. for elected officials and from
6:30-7:30 p.m. for any citizen that would like to make two minute presentation. He
encouraged the Council and its constituents to sign up to speak at this event.
Councilmember McClung indicated he would have been in favor of the Council
sitting down with Representative McCollum before this listening situation to arrive
a mutual plan before throwing out hundreds of different ideas at the listening
situation. He explained that he was disappointed by the turn of events.
Councilmember Holden stated this could be the Council's fault as they did direct
staff to speak with Representative McCollum about taking the lead on this project.
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Mayor Harpstead indicated he sees this as a reflection of the failure of the City
Council of Arden Hills to provide leadership and was now proceeding with
regional direction from Representative McCollum.
Councilmember Holden stated she did not see that the City was at fault and that
this land sale could have been completed before the economic downfall if the other
parties involved would have done their due diligence.
Mayor Harpstead explained that the meeting would be held, and that there was
really no direction from Council at this time. He suggested the letter be forwarded
to the people on staff s list to make them aware of the meeting on June 22"a
Further discussion ensued regarding potential uses for the site.
Councilmember McClung indicated he did not feel the original mixed use
development would happen for this land and that it would now have a somewhat
smaller level of development with the remaining being green space and public use.
He stated he would still consider wind turbines on this site as well.
Mayor Harpstead then handed out a summary document of his thoughts for the
site. He then asked when the Council would like to discuss how they would like to
proceed in discussions with the Army and GSA.
City Administrator Moorse suggested this issue be further discussed at the July
13 th City Council Work Session meeting.
2. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
There was nothing additional at this time.
Mayor Harpstead adjourned the City CounciZSes4,
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Susan K. Iverson Spstead
Acting City Administrator Mayor