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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 13, 2010
6:00 P.M. ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Stan Harpstead called to order the City
Council Work Session meeting at 6:00 p.m.
Present: Mayor Stan Harpstead; Council Members David Grant (arrived at 6:04
p.m.), Brenda Holden, Fran Holmes, and David McClung.
Absent: None.
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Approved: October 11, 2010
Also present: City Administrator, Patrick Klaers; Finance Director, Susan Iverson; Public
Works Director, Terry Maurer; and City Planner, Meagan Beekman.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
City Administrator Klaers stated he could provide a brief update on the Community
Development Director search. The Council was in favor of this suggestion.
MOTION: Councilmember Holden moved and Councilmember McClung seconded a
motion to approve the meeting agenda as amended. The motion carried
unanimously (4 -0).
1. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
Councilmember Holmes questioned if the City should be concerned with a gas main explosion.
Public Works Director Maurer indicated this was monitored by other entities and not by the
City.
Mayor Harpstead recommended the public works department look in the townhome association
for a cross connected pipeline. He stated it would be nice to know if the City has any transit
pipelines within the City.
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1. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS (continued)
Councilmember Holden expressed concern about replacing the manhole covers on Ridgewood
when this street was just reconstructed. She questioned why this wasn't done previously.
Public Works Director Maurer indicated there were two manholes that need to be raised that
were discovered in the sewer lining project. He reported that neither repair will require digging on
the new street.
Councilmember Holden requested that staff work to assure that the City would not be doing
further sewer /water line work after new streets have been completed.
Public Works Director Mauer explained this would be the process for street improvement
projects scheduled for 2011. He stated that all underground utilities would be evaluated and any
necessary repairs or replacements would be completed before the street work. He indicated he
would be working to create updated GIS maps for the City to provide Public Works with the most
recent information and drawings for line and manhole placement.
Councilmember Holden indicated tickets are on sale for the Taste of Northwest and the event
will be held on September 30
2. AGENDA ITEMS
A. Review and Discuss Presbyterian Homes and Library Proposal
City Administrator Klaers presented the City Council with information on the Presbyterian
Homes /Library proposal. He indicated the Library Board was meeting on September 15, 2010. It
was anticipated that one of their agenda items will be to select a library proposal to recommend to
the County Board.
City Administrator Klaers explained Presbyterians Homes was proposing a redevelopment of
their existing site which would include a new library. Presbyterian Homes has requested TIF from
the City for their redevelopment project. The Financial Planning and Analysis Committee
(FPAC) reviewed the TIF request at a special meeting on September 9, 2010. He indicated FPAC
recommended approval of the Presbyterian Homes TIF request whether or not the library is part of
the proposal.
Mayor Harpstead questioned how the Council should proceed at this time.
City Administrator Klaers indicated he would like direction from the Council on TIF and if this
would be supported for the Presbyterian Homes project. The Library Board may ask questions on
Wednesday and he would like to be prepared to answer their questions.
Councilmember McClung asked if Susan Nimitz would be presenting both reports on
Wednesday with a recommendation.
City Planner Beekman was unaware of the items on the agenda or how each proposal would be
presented to the Board. Ms. Nimitz has been gathering information on both proposals and is
anticipated to present a comparison between the two.
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A. Review and Discuss Presbyterian Homes and Library Proposal (continued)
Councilmember McClung questioned how the Library Board reacted to the Presbyterian Homes
proposal.
City Planner Beekman stated each proposal was reviewed critically by the Board. The questions
raised by the Board had to do with parking issues in New Brighton and if expansion was possible.
The Board was surprised by the cost of building on the New Brighton site. She indicated the
Presbyterian Homes concept discussion included concerns about bicycle and pedestrian access.
The biggest concern that she heard was the number of unknowns, along with the timing of the
build out, and City approvals.
City Administrator Klaers noted Arden Hills came to the table late on this issue, but the build
out costs were higher than anticipated at the New Brighton location. This was leading the Library
Board to really consider the Arden Hills option.
Councilmember Holden asked if Presbyterian Homes would need to revise their plans if TIF
were not approved by the Council.
City Planner Beekman indicated this was the case.
Councilmember Grant questioned if the County would be paying for the remodeling if the New
Brighton facility was chosen.
John Mehrkens, Presbyterian Homes, stated the County would be paying the capital costs of
either facility regardless it it's in New Brighton or Arden Hills.
Councilmember Holmes questioned the length of the New Brighton facility lease.
City Administrator Klaers stated New Brighton has suggested a 20 year lease. Presbyterian
Homes would be willing to agree to a 30 year lease.
Councilmember McClung asked how integral TIF would be in the redevelopment of
Presbyterian Homes complete with the library.
John Mehrkens stated if TIF was not available a revised plan would be submitted with varying
features and elements.
Mayor Harpstead felt there was a justification for TIF, however more information was needed.
The plan from Presbyterian Homes included features and benefits for the residents of Arden Hills.
Councilmember McClung indicated the redevelopment would be an asset to the community and
would benefit the Arden Hills tax base as well.
Councilmember Holmes stated she was very conservative on her TIF decisions and the only
reason she would consider using TIF would be if the library was included in the project.
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A. Review and Discuss Presbyterian Homes and Library Proposal (continued)
Mayor Harpstead explained he wanted to see the City involved in activities that would grow and
develop the tax base. This redevelopment was a meaningful opportunity for a significant business
in the community located on Lake Johanna.
Councilmember Holden expressed concern about there being too much TIF in the City. She may
be willing to approve TIF for 10 years, but not for 16.
Mayor Harpstead questioned if the City had a limit on TIF at this time.
Ms. Kvilvang, Ehlers and Associates, stated the City did not have a policy to limit TIF. She
explained the City was just under 4% of captured value compared to total City tax capacity and if
Presbyterian Homes were added, the City would be just under 5
City Administrator Klaers reviewed several neighboring communities' use of TIF stating that
New Brighton was around 20 He felt that 4 -5% was low, but understood the City was
conservative with TIF.
Councilmember Holden indicated the comments she has received from residents are requesting
the library remain in its current location and that the money be put into upgrades to that building.
City Administrator Klaers stated it was his understanding that the operating costs on that
building would still be much higher than a newer facility. The County Board was looking for
partners to reduce operating expenses.
Councilmember Grant stated a library up on the TCAAP site would make a lot of sense with the
number of new houses on that site. He felt that the decision was being rushed and that the long
term implications would greatly affect the City.
Mayor Harpstead commented that the Library Board has been trying to close the Arden Hills site
for more than four years. This was not a new request, as operating costs have been reduced and
hours have been cut. He stated the TCAAP site may be a viable site for a library, but this would
be an altogether new expense for the Library Board.
Councilmember Grant questioned when the library in Arden Hills would be closing.
Mayor Harpstead understood the library was not funded past December of 2010. No new
budget money has been allocated to the library going forward, but the County Board could vote to
make a change.
Councilmember Holmes stated the New Brighton plan did have parking issues.
Councilmember Holden questioned the goal of this discussion.
Mayor Harpstead indicated staff needs to make a statement on Wednesday on behalf of Council.
That would require the Council to reach some form of consensus.
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A. Review and Discuss Presbyterian Homes and Library Proposal (continued)
Councilmember Grant stated if the County was in favor of the Presbyterian Homes proposal, the
lease would need to be longer than 20 years.
Councilmember Holmes indicated she did not feel there was any need to rush through this
decision. She felt the County Board would not support the Presbyterian Homes proposal without
TIF.
Councilmember Holden explained Presbyterian Homes was going to request TIF whether the
library was onsite or not.
Councilmember Holmes questioned how the library would benefit from the use of TIF.
Ms. Kvilvang stated the library would not benefit, but the overall project would be enhanced if
TIF were approved. If TIF were not approved, the library would very likely not proceed in
Presbyterian Homes.
Mayor Harpstead noted in the interest of time the Council would have to reach a consensus or
readdress this issue after the Council meeting for further discussion. He questioned if the Council
could support a library in Arden Hills in and around the Presbyterian Homes redevelopment. He
reiterated that he would support Presbyterian Homes, the library and the use of TIF for the
redevelopment. This option would keep a library operational in the City of Arden Hills.
Councilmember McClung indicated he was open to the Presbyterian Homes proposal as this
would keep a library in Arden Hills.
Councilmember Holmes did not feel the Council had reached a consensus on this issue. She
requested the discussion on this issue be continued after the Council meeting.
B. Community Development Director Search
This item was not discussed.
ADJOURN
Mayor Harpstead adjourned the City Council Work Sessi n meeting at 6. 6 p.m.
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