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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-07-02 P & Z CITY OF CENTERVILLE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JULY 2, 2002 Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Planning and Zoning Commission held their regularly scheduled meeting on July 2, 2002, at 6:30 p. m. PRESENT: Ray DeVine Tom Wilharber Mary Jo Helmbrecht Brian Hanson ABSENT: David Kilian John McLean COUNCIL: Council Member Travis STAFF: Ms. Moore-Sykes I. CALL TO ORDER 1.Roll Call The meeting was called to order at 6:43 p.m. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. AWARDS/PRESENTATIONS/APPEARANCES th 1. Mr. Peter Rosenthal, 7129 – 20 Avenue N. (Concept Plans – New Building) Mr. Rosenthal addressed the Commission and explained he was there to show a concept plan and obtain information on how to get a grading permit because he has found that there is an extraordinary amount of black dirt on the site that will need to be removed before any construction can begin. Commissioner DeVine asked if Mr. Rosenthal was familiar with the codes that would need to be followed. Mr. Rosenthal indicated that he was. Commissioner DeVine asked whether Mr. Rosenthal had discussed his plans with the neighbors and whether he had received any negative feedback on the cutting of the trees and/or the proposed structure. Page 1 of 7 Planning and Zoning Commission July 2, 2002 Meeting Minutes Mr. Rosenthal indicated he had met with most of the neighbors and had not had any negative feedback. Ms. Moore-Sykes indicated that Mr. Rosenthal would need to submit a grading plan because he would not be allowed to alter the grade in any fashion that would impede upon his neighbors. Commissioner Helmbrecht asked if there was a buffer between residents and the existing building. Mr. Rosenthal indicated there are large willow trees planted when the building was constructed 20 years ago that act as a nice buffer. He then indicated he intends to either use fencing or landscaping to buffer the new building. Commissioner DeVine indicated that any building over 5000 square feet would require a sprinkler system. He then asked whether the existing building used well water and noted that, if the building is required to have sprinklers, City water would need to be added to the project. Mr. Rosenthal indicated that the existing building does use the well but indicated he would be adding City water. He then indicated that, at some point in the future, a cul-de- sac should be added to allow for two lots to be developed. Mr. Rosenthal asked if it is hard to obtain a special use permit because the businesses he intends to solicit for tenants would need special use permits. The Commission recommended meeting with City Staff to discuss the special permit process. Commissioner Wilharber asked how Mr. Rosenthal intended to continue the sewer line. Mr. Rosenthal indicated that Roso Construction had offered to let him tap into the existing line. Mr. Rosenthal indicated he would like to update both buildings and then commented he had gone through an eminent domain proceeding in St. Paul and has three years to reinvest the money in order to avoid paying taxes. Ms. Moore-Sykes recommended that Mr. Rosenthal discuss his intentions concerning the sewer line with Mr. Palzer as he would know the required regulations. Council Member Travis indicated Mr. Rosenthal would not be able to hook into the sewer line without a public utility easement. Page 2 of 7 Planning and Zoning Commission July 2, 2002 Meeting Minutes The Commission agreed that the concept looked good but suggested meeting with Staff to firm up plans and determined what would be required. 2. Apex Developers of MN, Inc., 182 B. Ryan Lane (Concept Plans – New Building) Scott Thompson the design builder and Dave Evans, Matt Rehbein’s partner introduced themselves to the Commission and asked whether the Commission had any questions concerning the concept plans. Mr. Evans indicated he would like to have a building permit this year yet and work on the rest of the overall site plan after as that would allow him to generate some income to help fund the project. Mr. Thompson suggested meeting with City staff and their engineers to discuss the specifics of the development. Commissioner Wilharber asked if Mr. Evans intended to access the property from 21st Avenue. Mr. Thompson indicated there is a cul-de-sac off of County Road 54 st Ms. Moore-Sykes indicated access would need to be off of 21 Avenue which is not yet extended. Commissioner Wilharber commented that half of the road is in Lino Lakes and half in Centerville which means it will take some time to get developed. Ms. Moore-Sykes indicated a joint meeting was held a few weeks ago to discuss the improvement to the road. She then indicated that Centerville had just agreed to update the feasibility study at the last meeting. Ms. Moore-Sykes indicated that the City was intending to only improve the road to the developed area but, if driven by development, the road will need to be improved. st Mr. Evans asked how long it would be before 21 Avenue was improved. Ms. Moore-Sykes indicated that would depend on development pressure. Council Member Travis indicated that Lino Lakes has the road scheduled to begin construction next spring. Commissioner Wilharber indicated that it was never a thought of that cul-de-sac being st punched out any farther and the assessments on 21 Avenue were so high that property owners were up in arms and neither of the cities wanted to spend that much money to st extend 21 Avenue any farther. Page 3 of 7 Planning and Zoning Commission July 2, 2002 Meeting Minutes Commissioner DeVine indicated he did not think it would be any more than five years. Council Member Travis indicated there would be possible construction next year to the point just past the Dairy Queen. He then asked why access could not be taken off of Cedar. Mr. Evans asked what the plan for that small piece of property was. Commissioner Wilharber indicated it was a tax forfeited piece of property acquired by the City and there has been discussion of putting a water tower on it, turning it into a park and/or selling it but as of now there is no plan for it. Commissioner Wilharber indicated that Cedar is a gravel road and the citizens that live on it would be upset with heavy traffic. He also pointed out that Cedar is in Lino Lakes. The Commission agreed that the concept looked good and recommended working with City Staff to firm up the details and requirements. Mr. Thompson indicated their goal is to construct the 20,000 square foot building and work with Staff to develop a plan for the rest of the property. IV. PUBLIC HEARING(S) 1. Sheehy Construction Company Lot Split Request (20 Acre Parcel into 5 & 15 st Acre Parcels), 7047 South 21 Avenue. Chair Hanson opened the public hearing at 7:20 p.m. Larry Nielson, attorney for Mr. Sheehy was in attendance to answer any questions of the Commission. Commissioner Wilharber asked whether Staff had received any feedback from those noticed for the hearing. Ms. Moore-Sykes indicated she had not received any feedback on this matter. Council Member Travis asked if there were assessments against the property. Mr. Nielson indicated that there were assessments against the property and indicated that his client would like to have those split between the two parcels. Council Member Travis indicated that he did not think that the County would be willing to record the lot split until the assessments were paid. Page 4 of 7 Planning and Zoning Commission July 2, 2002 Meeting Minutes Motion by Commissioner DeVine, seconded by Commissioner Wilharber to close the public hearing. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. Chair Hanson closed the public hearing at 7:25 p.m. Motion by Commissioner Wilharber, seconded by Commissioner DeVine to recommend to Council approval of the requested lot split. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. Chair Hanson indicated that the matter would be on Council’s agenda for the July 10, 2002 Council meeting. The Commission recessed at 7:30 and reconvened at 7:38 p.m. V. COMMISSION BUSINESS 1. Proposed Ordinance #70 Commissioner Helmbrecht indicated that she would like to edit the first paragraph because it does not address businesses like Hair Update. Commissioner DeVine agreed with Commissioner Helmbrecht and the Commission decided to change the first paragraph to include that similar adult oriented businesses would need to follow the requirements of the adult oriented business ordinance. They also agreed to delete the second paragraph. Commissioner Helmbrecht asked Staff to make sure that the adult ordinance covers the wording that was removed from this ordinance. The Commission asked Staff to provide the adult ordinance at its next meeting for review. Commissioner Helmbrecht asked if the Commission wanted to include a requirement of no liquor license or leave it up to Council. There was consent to leave it up to Council. Commissioner Wilharber indicated there was nothing in the adult ordinance referring to massage parlors and saunas. Commissioner Helmbrecht questioned whether the wording on Page 8 should be changed. The Commission agreed to change the 10 day requirement to 30 day requirement. Commissioner Helmbrecht suggested adding the owner to the terms on Page 11. Page 5 of 7 Planning and Zoning Commission July 2, 2002 Meeting Minutes The Commission agreed to add the applicant and/or owner or his/her designee. 2. Set Public Hearings for Ordinance #70 and #71 Commissioner Helmbrecht asked who the City’s public health authority was. Ms. Moore-Sykes indicated it would be the County Health Authority and said she would look into it. Commissioner Helmbrecht asked Staff to let Hair Update know of the proposed changes. The Commission agreed that the ordinances were ready for public hearing at the next meeting. Chair Hansen indicated that there was a public hearing scheduled for July 8, 2002 on Ordinance #4 and asked whether the Commission felt it was necessary or if it should be cancelled and held at the Council meeting. He also indicated he would not be able to attend the July 8, 2002 meeting. Commissioner Wilharber indicated he would be out of town on July 8, 2002 and unable to attend. Motion by Chair Hanson, seconded by Commissioner DeVine to cancel the public hearing scheduled for July 8, 2002 and hold the public hearing at the July 26, 2002 Council Meeting. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. VI. CONSENT AGENDA None. VII. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES 1.June 4, 2002 Planning and Zoning Meeting Minutes Chair Hanson requested the following changes: Kilian and Helmbrecht were listed as absent and present, please correct. Correct the spelling of Hansen to Hanson. Motion by Commissioner DeVine, seconded by Commissioner Wilharber to approve the June 4, 2002 Meeting Minutes as amended. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. Commissioner Helmbrecht abstained from voting as she was not present at the meeting. Page 6 of 7 Planning and Zoning Commission July 2, 2002 Meeting Minutes VIII. ANNOUNCEMENTS Commissioner Helmbrecht asked if it would be possible to have Staff review site plans before they come to the Commission in the future. Ms. Moore-Sykes indicated she would speak to Mr. Palzer about having the plans come to her before being placed on the agenda. Commissioner Wilharber asked whether the other vacancy had been announced. He then noted that Commissioner Kilian had missed two meetings in a row and asked whether it was time to contact him concerning his intentions. Chair Hanson agreed to contact Mr. Kilian to determine if he wanted to continue with the Planning Commission. He then explained that Commissioner McLean had been told by his employer that he would be going out of town and had no choice. IX. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Commissioner Helmbrecht, seconded by Commissioner Wilharber to adjourn the July 2, 2002 Planning Commission Meeting at 8:05 p.m. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. 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