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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2021-04-28 WS & CC Meeting Minutes - Approved CITY OF CENTERVILLE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION & COUNCIL MEETING April 28, 2021 6:30 p.m. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the City of Centerville held their regularly scheduled City Council Work Session & Council Meeting on April 28, 2021 via Zoom Videoconferencing at: https://zoom.us/j/478824301, Meeting ID: 478 824 301 with audio only available at: 312-626- 6799. The meeting was also live streamed by North Metro TV. COUNCIL WORK SESSION I.CALL TO ORDER Mayor Love called the meeting to order at 5:01 p.m. ROLL CALL* Approved PRESENT: Mayor D. Love Council Member Steve King Council Member Russ Koski Council Member Michelle Lakso (Arrived at 5:35 p.m.) Council Member Darrin Mosher ABSENT: None. STAFF: City Administrator Mark Statz City Attorney Kurt Glaser Finance Director Bruce DeJong *Note that ÐpresentÑ is construed to mean that the noted individuals were visibly and audibly present on the videoconference call. II.AGENDA ITEMS 1.City Street Speed Limits City Administrator Statz several other communities within the State have decreased the speed limits within their communities to something less than 30 mpg on residential roadways. He stated that legislation has changed to allow for Cities to regulate their roadways and he desired to obtain input from Council. He did state that existing signage would need to be modified if it were CouncilÓs desire to entertain the idea. He also stated that he did not feel that being site specific would be a good idea. Consensus of Council was to leave the existing speed limits the way they are currently posted. age Day off Friday 2.Consider Move of Garb Administrator Statz stated that he placed this item on the Council Work Session Agenda because he recently received two (2) requests for modifying the garbage/recycling pickup day to something City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 other than Friday due to residents potentially being out of town for the weekends and unable to place their cans back near their homes which makes their homes an easier mark for potential burglary. He stated that he had spoken with the contractor (Republic Services) and they stated that they would entertain a change if desired. Consensus of the Council was that if the City had received numerous requests to modify they would consider, that if fees were to be increased due to a pickup day modification they would not consider and for 20 + years the collection day has remained on Fridays. Mayor Love stated that Centerville is a small town where neighbors should and could assist each other with placing empty containers near homes for one another once collection has been completed if they were asked or if they notice the homeowner is not home. 3. Placemaking Administrator Statz stated that he place the item on the Work Session Agenda for discussion as the Economic Development Authority desires input as to their roll (funding for beautification, making Centerville a destination, welcome monument, etc.) He stated he was unsure as to ideas that have been discussed as to whether EDA should be working in this area, working with other Committee/CommissionÓs in this area or only working on business retention, marketing, etc. Discussion ensued regarding EDAÓs roll in placemaking, funding, marketing, branding, working with the Parks & Recreation Committee, business retention and bringing in new businesses. Administrator Statz was directed to provide Council with a list and prioritize items and funding for Council consideration at a future date. 4. 2020 Year-End Financials (Unaudited) Administrator Statz reviewed the 2020 Year-End Financials (Unaudited) with Council. Discussion was had regarding CARES funding, possible paving of the City Hall parking lot and how funding would be secured for this project, balances in accounts, pavement plan, overlays, Storm Sewer Fund balance, American Recovery Act Funding and unknown ability to utilize that funding for storm sewer projects, storm water pond restoration/drainage issues, ditch maintenance, trail maintenance being a part of the street funding and the existing policy for backyard drainage program. III. ADJOURNMENT Mayor Love adjourned the Work Session at 6:10 p.m. COUNCIL MEETING I. CALL TO ORDER Mayor D. Love called the meeting to order at 6:31 p.m. Page 2 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 ROLL CALL* Not Approved PRESENT: Mayor D. Love Council Member Steve King Council Member Russ Koski Council Member Michelle Lakso Council Member Darrin Mosher ABSENT: None. STAFF: City Administrator Mark Statz City Attorney Kurt Glaser City Planner Phil Carlson *Note that ÐpresentÑ is construed to mean that the noted individuals were visibly and audibly present on the videoconference call. II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Mayor Love provided an opportunity for others to add or delete any items. Motion by Council Member Koski, seconded by Council Member King to Approve the Agenda as Presented. A roll-call vote was taken. Mayor Love and Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Motion carried. IV. APPOINTMENTS/PRESENTATIONS 1. None. V. PUBLIC HEARINGS 1. None VI. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES 1. January 13, 2021 City Council Meeting Minutes Mayor Love provided an opportunity for Council to make modifications to the minutes if desired. Motion by Council Member Koski, seconded by Council Member Mosher to Approve the January 13, 2021 City Council Meeting Minutes as Presented. A roll-call vote was taken. Mayor Love and Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Motion carried. Page 3 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 VII. CONSENT AGENDA 1. City of Centerville Claims through April 28, 2021 (Check #33677-33704) & (1682E- 1691E) W/Voided E-Check #1690E 2. Centennial Lake Police Department Claims through April 22, 2021 (Check #13767-13788) W/Voided Check #13765, (2021016-2021019E) & Payroll (Check #13777-13779) 3. Centennial Fire District Claims through April 27, 2021 (Check #9063-9067) & (2021007E) 4. Encroachment Agreement Î Fountains Î 1953 Eagle Trail 5. Electrical Inspector Change 6. Minnesota Cities Stormwater Coalition (MCSC) Membership 7. Paying Agent Agreement Î Northland Securities 8. EDA Request to Hang Banners on City-Owned Light Poles Mayor D. Love provided an opportunity for Council to add or remove any item(s) to/from the consent agenda. Council Member King asked to pull items #6 and #7 for discussion. Motion by Council Member Koski, seconded by Council Member Lakso to Approve Consent Agenda items # 1-5 and #8 as Presented. A roll-call vote was taken. Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Mayor Love abstained. Motion carried. Council Member King asked for an explanation of the Storm Water Coalition membership. Administrator Statz explained that it is a coalition of cities that are required by the Pollution Control Agency (PCA) to have MS4 permits. He stated that this permit allows for owning and operating of a stormwater system. This organization lobbies the legislature and the PCA to keep the regulations reasonable as sort of a Òwatch dogÓ organization. He noted that he believed that the League of Minnesota Cities was simply doing the administrative work for the coalition and are operating separately from the League. Council Member King asked how he could get more information on the Coalition. Administrator Statz stated that he is not sure if they have their own website but noted that he is very familiar with them because his past clients also worked with them. Council Member King reiterated that he would like to know more about them such as how long they have been around and try to figure out if the City is actually getting something out of partnering with them. Administrator Statz suggested that he can get Council Member King in touch with them and try to get him on a mailing list/e-mail blast. Page 4 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 Motion by Council Member King, seconded by Council Member Koski to Approve Consent Agenda #6 as Presented. A roll-call vote was taken. Mayor Love and Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Motion carried. Council Member King asked for an explanation of the paying agent agreement regarding Consent Agenda Item #7. Administrator Statz stated that this is an agreement with Northland Securities to complete the annual paperwork that comes along with the bond that the City has. He gave an explanation of the bond selling process and noted that it should be handled by a paying agent rather than a part-time Finance Director. Motion by Council Member King, seconded by Council Member Mosher to Approve Consent Agenda Item #7 as Presented. A roll-call vote was taken. Mayor Love and Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Motion carried. VIII.OLD BUSINESS 1. None. IX. NEW BUSINESS 1. Ordinance #113, Second Series Amendments to City Code Chapter 156 & Table 156.A-1 (First Reading) Mayor Love stated that he wanted to thank the Planning and Zoning Commission for holding a 6.5-hour meeting last week as an emergency meeting after the initial meeting was hijacked. He thanked the individuals who took the time to write and share their thoughts and feelings. His hoped that the Council can separate facts from feelings and make the best decision for the City as a whole. He stated that because there was a 6.5-hour public hearing held, the Council will not entertain public comment at this meeting. He clarified that the land being discussed tonight is not owned by the City and the City did not individually pursue business owners to sell the land. He explained that the landowner is a local businessman who has been part of the community for many years. As elected officials, the Council represents all citizens of the City; and the City and its citizens are not separate entities. Administrator Statz stated that this is a proposed change to City Code Chapter 156 and the table of allowed uses. He explained that the table outlines allowed uses, allowed by Conditional Use Permit (CUP), or not allowed. He gave a brief overview of past actions regarding the creation of the B-2 Zoning District (Main Street Commercial) but noted that some things were not reflected in the table. He explained the rules about allowing things like car repair and car washes in conjunction with a gas station. He noted that the draft ordinance has the new proposed language written in italics and clarified that this proposed Code amendment is independent of the Kwik Trip proposal. Council Member King asked if Kwik Trip would need a CUP if the Council passed this. Page 5 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 Administrator Statz clarified that if the Council passed this it would allow a car wash as an accessory to retail fuel sales (gas station) only as a conditional use. He gave a quick overview of how CUPs work and noted that it means that the City can put conditions on the use and does not mean that the use can be denied. He explained that the conditions need to be reasonable and be things like limiting noise, hours of operation and not things like standing on your head and clapping three times. Council Member King reiterated his question that if the Council passes this, the CUP for Kwik Trip will not be necessary and noted that the agenda item tonight was Plan Review for the Kwik Trip. Administrator Statz explained that the CUP is not on the CouncilÓs agenda tonight because that would look to be done after the ordinance is adopted. He stated that tonightÓs item is just a first reading and noted that the second reading would be on May 12, 2021, so the CUP would be presented on that agenda. Council Member King confirmed with Administrator Statz that his understanding is that if this ordinance is passed, it would give Kwik Trip permission to have a car wash, just with conditions. He stated that he has received a lot of phone calls and e-mails about this issue. He stated that he would like this item to be tabled because there is so much information to get through. He noted that he would like the newspaper to print up a story so there could be more input from the citizens, even those outside of the notice area. He reiterated that he believes this should be tabled and the City should have a bigger public forum on this issue. Mayor Love stated that he thinks it is important that there are conversations and reference these items tonight. He stated that there is a landowner who is trying to sell his land and he has a right to have the Council discuss his proposal and have it done swiftly. He stated that he believes the City is approaching the 60-day limit and due to the delay of the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, he believes there is going to need to be an extension, but noted that he does not think that should just be done arbitrarily. Administrator Statz explained that Minnesota State law requires that the City act on Zoning proposals within 60 days or they are deemed to be accepted. The City is allowed to give themselves one 60-day extension. He noted that he believes the initial 60-day period expires next week and regardless of what action is taken tonight, there will need to be an extension. He explained that this means the City has two more months to act, otherwise this would just be accepted. Council Member Lakso stated that she is not in favor of changing the ordinance at this time and would echo some of the thing brought up by Council Member King. She stated that she is fine with discussion but does not want to make any decisions without tabling this and getting more input. She stated that she does not believe she has personally had enough time to process all of the comments that were made on Monday as well as the deluge of e-mails she has received. Mayor Love noted that this is a first reading of the ordinance so the vote will not be called tonight. Council Member Koski stated that he is in favor of the overall spirit of what this ordinance is Page 6 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 attempting to provide. He stated that he feels it fits with what the City already has going on with other convenience stores and would be fair to everyone. He stated that he was very impressed with the CityÓs Planning and Zoning Commission and the involvement of residents and how they organized themselves in such a short period of time. He stated that the City belongs to the people and while he understands that people from Lino Lakes are not residents of the City, they are part of the community. He explained that he does not take things lightly and has often encouraged resident involvement. He stated that he feels that there was a lot gone through Monday night at the Planning and Zoning Commission and these are changes that will affect the City for many years. He stated that he has only had about 30 hours of time to digest what heard Monday evening which he felt was not enough time. He stated that since the meeting, he has seen petitions and received a number of e-mails and phone calls. He stated that his job as an elected official is to be the voice for the people and hear the people who wanted to get involved. He noted that there is a lot of misinformation out on social media sites and thinks people deserve to be heard in a public forum, including the land owner and the developer. He stated that he believes it would be prudent and fair to have some type of public forum on this item. The City cannot stop a business coming here if it is zoned for that and stated that it would be against the law. He stated that he thinks there needs to be education and an exchange of information of what the CityÓs role is in this whole thing. He stated that there are certain parts of this project that he supports and others he would like to hear more about. He stated that he is not ready to make those kinds of commitments tonight based on 30 hours between the Planning and Zoning meeting and the Council meeting. He stated that he understands that this is a first reading and that an extension will be necessary. He asked if that extension time could be utilized to clarify to people so they understand what they are trying to do in the City. Mayor Love stated that he believes there will be an opportunity this evening to have the developer speak on their project and dispel rumors or inaccurate information. He reiterated that this is a first reading. He stated that with regard to the ordinance, he believes, that this was nothing more than a typographical error and was referring to stand alone car washes. He stated that it makes sense to allow a gas station to have a car wash and feels that this is the City cleaning up an ordinance that was not quite written in the correct way because someone brought it to their attention. No action needed. 2. Rehbein Commercial a. Preliminary Plat Administrator Statz asked Phil Carlson, City Planner, to give an overview of this item. thst Mr. Carlson stated that this is a plat for 24 acres, large parcel of vacant land between 20 and 21 Avenue on Main Street. The request is for a Preliminary Plat to divide it into 6 lots and noted that the details are included in the report. He gave an overview of the summary recommendations from the staff report. He stated that the proposal to divide the land meets basic City criteria for a Preliminary Plat and should be approved. He noted that there is an issue with Lot 1 and Lot 1A which cannot be combined because they are recorded under two different methods of property descriptions. He explained that because there is no immediate development proposed for those lots, it can be addressed at a later date through an administrative process. He state that there is a street shown that would end in a cul-de-sac and explained that there will be a traffic study to Page 7 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 determine whether the street should go through to 20th. Sidewalks, trails and park dedication are proposed for all lots and noted that the engineering items are covered separately in a memorandum from the City Engineer. He stated that he believes it is important for this discussion, knowing the interest in the proposed development, that dividing this plat into lots, can be approved as simply the division of land as a stand-alone as action without approval of the specific uses. He noted that Lot 2, Block 1 is the Kwik Trip lot, Lot 3, Block 1 has no proposed development, Lot 1, Block 2 is the proposed senior living facility, and Lot 2, Block 2 is the proposed apartments. He stated that th the question is whether Street A should be extended to 20 if and when needed. He noted that he had included some possible scenarios related to the street, but reiterated that the recommendation is for a traffic study to be done to see what would happen if the entire plat were fully developed. He reiterated that this plat meets the basic requirements for subdivision in the City Code and staff is recommending approval. Administrator Statz stated that the legal requirements in front of the Council for a Preliminary Plat are that there is a duty for them to evaluate the proposal based on the CityÓs requirements. He asked that the Council put aside everything else that is proposed as part of this and just look at this as a subdivision of land by itself. He stated that if there is nothing wrong with the subdivision, as a whole, there is an obligation to approve it. He stated that they can give feedback regarding to things they do and do not like, such as proposing the roadway in a different location. He stated that the Council could allow for an extension of another 60 days to allow for more time to review but the Council cannot say that someone cannot plat their land. Mr. Carlson stated that the drawing in the report that shows the colored lots is not the plat and clarified that the plan does not identify proposed uses, such as Kwik Trip or the senior living or apartments. The plat simply identifies Lot 1, Block 1, Lot 2, Block 1, etc. and the street right of way and simply divides the land into parcels. The Preliminary Plat is one step in process and would still need to be final and presumes this arrangement is approved and the landowner would have certain rights if they bring back a final plat at a later date. Attorney Glaser stated that this is a Preliminary Plat and there is a Final Plat that comes after that and are another series of questions that relate to the individual developments within the lots. He stated that the Council should really view those as independent questions and will be preliminary because there will be more than one step associated with them which means there will be more time built in to answer those questions. Mayor Love gave the opportunity for representatives from Rehbein/R & R Leasing to speak the item, but no one spoke. Council Member King stated that he had no problem with the plat and noted that his one question is what would happen if someone came in and wanted two lots instead of one, how much would that process cost them to combine the lots. Administrator Statz stated that if there were major changes, it would be brought back before the Council for this same process, but if it was substantially the same it would not be brought back and would just move to the Final Plat approval. He stated that regarding cost, it is really just a line on a computer and believes the costs would be minimal because the change is just to the drawing. Page 8 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 Council Member King asked if combining Lot 1 and Lot 2 would be considered a substantial change, if the road was not changed. Administrator Statz stated that would be sort of a judgement call on part of Council to determine if it represented a substantial change. He stated that in that example, he would suggest that it does go back through the process. Council Member Koski asked who would conduct the traffic study and whether it would be the County because this is a County road. Mr. Carlson stated that the City would put that on the developer because that is what is driving the need for access. Administrator Statz stated that he agreed and explained that the City would review their traffic study just like they review their other plans such as stormwater calculations. Council Member Koski explained that part of the reason for his line of questioning is that there has been public feedback on this project and would not want someone coming back and say that the City had the Ðfox count the chickens in the hen houseÑ. He stated that he does not want someone saying that the numbers cannot be trusted because the developer did it. He confirmed that the Preliminary Plat has nothing to do with walking trails and is simply the restructuring of the lots. Administrator Statz explained that because infrastructure is being put in, it does. He stated that as this moves towards Final Plat, they will also be entertaining the review of a developerÓs agreement that would layout the cul-de-sac with sewer and water and have trails/sidewalks. Mr. Carlson stated that to be clear, the plat simply records the lines on a map. He stated that the City knows that there is development proposed on some of the lots, but the lots will still be there whether the developments go through or not, but the road will not be built if it does not serve something. Council Member Koski questioned whether once plat is there ÐgrandfatheringÑ in and that in the future they have the right and permission to put in a road there. Administrator Statz stated that would be the case if it was recorded, but oftentimes the developer does not record it, if they did not know how much of the development needs to go forward for them to be able to afford the improvements that go along with the plat. Mayor Love questioned if the street would be City owned. Administrator Statz confirmed that it would be a City owned street and would be wide enough for plow access. Mayor Love questioned whether the area for the cul-de-sac would be filled in with grass or something like a rain garden. Administrator Statz explained that the City would ask the developer to give us a ÒPhase IIÓ plan for landscaping in that area, but would guess that it will just be grass. He asked to make one point Page 9 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 of clarification about what happens if the plat is approved and nothing else. He explained that if the developer did not record it and just sat there with approval of the plat in hand, that approval would be good for one year and at that point, the Code and possibly State Statute, would allow for the approval to be invalidated. Mayor Love asked about the earlier comment Administrator Statz had mentioned about tabling this item. Administrator Statz stated that all of these items can be tabled within the timeframe of an additional 60 days, with the initial 60-day period ending sometime next week. He stated that would mean the City would have essentially May and June to make a decision. He cautioned the Council that if they want more time to look at this, he would advise that they not make a motion to deny the request. Mr. Carlson noted that he believes that Preliminary Plats have a 120-day deadline which is not the same as other zoning approvals with a 60-day deadline. City Attorney Glaser confirmed that this item would not need an extension because there is already more time. He stated that if the Council chose to vote down the project, they would usually state the reasons so it could be corrected and brought back to the City. He stated that the Council could also just table this item because there is sufficient time with the 120-day rule, but they can also pass it because it is a Preliminary Plat and it would be subject to further modification and final approval. The Council discussed the Preliminary Plat approval process, the street platting, easements, utilities, drainage, and when things are recorded with the County. Motion by Council Member Lakso, seconded by Council Member Koski, to Approve the Preliminary Plat as Presented. Council Member Koski explained that part of him wanted to look as this as a group but based on what the consultants have shared, he understands that this is just a step and is just drawing property lines and will help clean up the Lot 1 and Lot 1A issue. Mr. Carlson noted that he would like to make sure that the conditions are included in the motion. Motion amended by Council Member Lakso, second amended by Council Member Koski, to Approve the Preliminary Plat with the conditions as included in the staff report. A roll-call vote was taken. Mayor Love and Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Motion carried. City Clerk Bender noted that there was a comment made that this would clear up the Abstract and Torrens issue with two of the lots and clarified that she does not believe that Preliminary Plat will take care of that issue. Administrator Statz stated that one of the conditions that was just approved by the Council is the requirement that it be cleaned up prior to Final Plat. Page 10 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 3. Kwik Trip a. Site Plan Review Administrator Statz clarified that the CUP for Kwik Trip is not on tonightÓs agenda and this item is just a Site Plan review. He stated that this approval would be for a Kwik Trip without a car wash and is an allowed/permitted use which means it cannot be denied as long as it meets the CityÓs Zoning Code. Mr. Carlson explained that Kwik Trip would like to develop Lot 2, Block 1 and reviewed the access points and location of the gas pumps. He stated that it functions as a pass through similar to a public street which Kwik Trip welcomes. He stated that they are suggesting, as a condition of approval, that the drive aisle be kept open and not obstructed as long as this site is in operation. He noted that there is adequate parking in several locations on the site, including stacking for a car wash, should that get approved in the future. He gave an overview of the lighting, trash enclosure, signage, and landscape plan. The recommendation is to approve the Site Plan with the 7 conditions that are included in the staff report. Mayor Love confirmed with Administrator Statz that this agenda item is under the 60-day provision and not the 120-day provision. He noted that the plans that have been presented do include the car wash. Administrator Statz stated that he believes it is the 60-day provision and noted that part of the motion should say that the Site Plan has been accepted with the understanding that the car wash, if approved, as a future addition. Council Member King asked if there was a site plan without the car wash and noted that he would like to know what it would look like without a car wash. Mr. Dean George, Kwik Trip developer, stated that if the car wash is not approved, they would have to go back to the team and see if this is still a store they would construct. He stated that theoretically, without a car wash, the Site Plan would be identical to what is presented without the bump out the back. Council Member King asked if there were any Kwik Trips that do not have a car wash. Mr. George confirmed that they do have some Kwik Trip stores without car washes. Council Member Lakso asked if Kwik Trip would be conducting the traffic study. Administrator Statz stated that the traffic study would be conducted by the overall developer which would be Mr. Rehbein, because the information the City is looking to find out is whether or not th the connection needs to be made to 20. Council Member Lakso asked when they traffic study would be completed. Administrator Statz stated that he would assume the study would be in conjunction with Page 11 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 development of Lot 1, Block 1. Council Member Lakso stated that she would like to propose a wider traffic study because of the ingress/egress and to establish leverage with the County if anything had to be changed. She stated that she thinks that there have been assumptions made that this road design can handle this use, so she would be very comfortable extending the traffic study for this particular lot and development to see what it would impact. She stated that her biggest thing with this proposal is walkability and stated that she does not see a sidewalk on the south side and asked if the City could make sure there is a sidewalk and a crossing to make it more connected. She explained that she thinks for the larger goals in the area, sidewalks are definitely something that she would look to include. Mr. Carlson noted that the approval on the plat did have a condition that there would be two th stretches of sidewalk built; from 20 Avenue along the south side of Lot 1 up to the Kwik Trip site; along the south side of Lot 2. He stated that it would not hurt to repeat that in the site plan approval, but the expectations are that segments 1 and 2 of the sidewalks will be extended. Council Member Lakso asked if there were design provisions in this area other than the general things to keep them in order with lights and garage. She asked if there was any provisions that would be needed to be a French look. Administrator Statz noted that there are requirements for masonry construction and that type of thing, but confirmed that it is not part of the Downtown Master Plan that has a bit more of a stylistic expectation. Council Member Lakso asked if there would be adequate space on the site for the times that there will be semi-truck deliveries of gas and other product delivery. Mr. George stated that they will get fresh products to their store every day but the daily delivery will be done by a short truck for things like bread and buns. He pointed out on the Site Plan the location that will be used for the semi-truck deliveries. He stated that the trucks will enter from the right in/right out entry along Main Street and explained that there is enough space for full circulation Council Member Lakso asked about the plans for 24-hour operation and if that was in keeping with the Zoning District, out of alignment code/ordinance, or whether it was perfectly allowable. Attorney Glaser stated that the use of this gas station is appropriate, permitted and also having a 24-hour operation is permitted. He noted that there are some decibel limits that are lower in evenings than during daytime. He stated that there was discussion at the Planning and Zoning Commission about having a car wash and their recommendation was to only allow it to operate between 7:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m. Council Member Lakso noted that there are businesses in town that get overnight deliveries so she would like the City to keep in mind the potential noise issues with this type of activity. Council Member Koski stated that he thinks there has been a lot of good points and good discussion. He explained that there are a few things that concern him on the site plan. He stated Page 12 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 that his big concerns are related to light and noise pollution as well as drainage. He stated that the City will lose pervious surface and water drainage is something that he would like to make sure is addressed. He stated that he knows that there has been talk of directing the lighting downward, but thinks that if he lived nearby that light and noise pollution would be a big concern for him. He stated that he would also like the light from their signs to be taken into consideration. He stated that regarding traffic flow, he is a bit concerned about where the traffic will end up going in and out and taking shortcuts through neighborhoods. He stated that he would like to make sure the City addresses those issues. He stated that he would like to make sure people are not hearing the back-up alarm when the fuel tankers are refueling at night or making deliveries at 5:00 a.m. Attorney Glaser clarified that loading is allowed at night, but loud noises made during loading are not allowed during 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. He read aloud that portion of the City Code. Administrator Statz asked if the developer could comment on the lighting concerns that Council Member Koski has shared. He asked if there would be lighting on the sides of the canopies or neon. Mr. George stated that he does not think these are neon canopies on the sides, but would have to double check his information. Administrator Statz stated that he used to be a consultant and worked with the City of Stacy and one of the things that they asked for when there was a Kwik Trip built, was to not light the side of the canopy that faced a residential area and suggested that may be something Centerville would also like to do for the north side that faces the residential area. Mr. George stated that they have done both kinds of designs where the red stripe on the canopy is lit and others where it is not. He stated that he will double check if the plans call for lighting the canopy and if so, he will make sure it is not lit on the side that faces the residential area. Council Member Koski thanked Mr. George and noted that if he lived next door he would not want to have a red lighting beaming into his bedroom. He asked if there would be an overnight parking in their parking lot. Mr. George stated that there is not enough space for there to be truck parking. Council Member Koski stated that he would like to table this item to go along with the car wash discussion, because, to him, they go hand in hand. He stated that he likes what he is seeing for the layout, but would like to table it as part of the rest of the project and also in order to give time for people to express their concerns. Mayor Love stated that Mr. Carlson had characterized the street as being almost like a public street. He asked if the road going on the west side of the lot would not be a public road nor will be it something that the City is responsible for with regard to plowing and maintaining. Administrator Statz explained that it is a private street and noted that the Council could pursue an agreement or an easement that said the area had to be always open and not obstructed. He reiterated that Kwik Trip has indicated that they welcome keeping that open because their hope is that more Page 13 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 people may stop in. Attorney Glaser stated that the easement part of this is probably something that is also somewhat of a plat issue and suggested that the City may want to talk about the whole plat design with the property owner. He stated that it is on private property and is a permitted use, but from an engineering standpoint, if there is a reason for those types of things, then that is a wise thing to add as part of a site plan. Mayor Love stated that he just wanted to make sure that everyone was on the same page with regard to the street, because it is a private street which means the owner has the right to decide how it used. He asked if the storage pond on the north side of the lot would be a City pond. Administrator Statz stated that it will be a City pond because there is drainage from the right-of- way that goes through this pond in addition to drainage from Kwik Trip. Mayor Love stated that the City has already held a public hearing and there is the option of the City receiving feedback from the public via e-mail. He explained that Administrator Statz has offered to receive and disseminate all e-mails to the Council and make them part of the packet for the next meeting. He stated that he did not feel another public hearing was needed as part of this process. Council Member Koski asked if the City would request that some type of fencing or barrier be put alongside the pond to block it in order to block noise or light from the nearby townhomes. He st asked if 21 Avenue would support the weight of the 90,000-pound tanker trucks. Mayor Love stated that the City has two other gas stations in town and other streets have been able to handle the weight. Administrator Statz stated that the street is built to a 10-ton standard. He noted that the landscape plan shows a number of trees around the storm pond as well as the perimeter of the site. Motion by Council Member Koski, seconded by Council Member Lakso, to Table Discussion of the Kwik Trip Site Plan, to consider it alongside the other changes with this project. Council Member Lakso stated that she believed that the prevailing desire was to push this off and allow for a longer comment period but knows that this action may cause frustration for others. She stated that she wanted to assure those individuals that the ÒstrategyÓ of the Council with this action was to increase public input on the project. She encouraged people to e-mail Administrator Statz or herself to give their input. Council Member Koski stated that tabling this will also benefit the developer because if there are any questions or concerns, there is now some time for them to address them because there was a lot of miscommunication or disinformation that was put out there, as well as many valid questions that have been raised. He stated that he wants to make sure everybody has a chance to give input. Mayor Love asked if, since this is being put forward without the actual car wash, whether the developer had any specific rights. He asked about the deadline for action on this item. Page 14 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 Administrator Statz explained that the City would put forward a 60-day extension even if the full 60 days is not necessary in order to give extra time to make revisions to the plans or explore them further. A roll-call vote was taken. Mayor Love and Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Motion carried. 4. NorBella Senior Living a. Rezoning (B-2 Main Street Commercial to B-1 Commercial) b. Conditional Use Permit (Specialized Care Facility) c. Site Plan Review Mr. Carlson stated that this request is for a project called NorBella Senior Living which is an assisted living/memory care facility. He stated that they are requesting a rezoning, CUP, and Site Plan review. This project would be for Lot 1, Block 2 on the north side of Street A that runs through the project. He reviewed the CityÓs land use plan, the current zoning, and the proposed zoning. The 24-acre Rehbein Commercial parcel, because it was one parcel that was zoned B-2 when the Main Street zoning came through, however, there is only some of the property that fronts on Main Street. He stated that it would be appropriate to have some of the property that is further away from Main Street be zoned B-1 and explained that there is no need to amend the Land Use/Comprehensive Plan if this change is approved. He explained that a Specialized Care Facility is considered a Conditional Use within the B-1 zoning. He stated that there are conditions attached and noted that one of the key issues will be having the appropriate licenses from the State and County, as well as knowing that there is adequate staff to handle emergencies. He stated that there is also concern that there may be excessive use of 911 calls and the City needs to consider if they have recourse if that occurs. The Site Plan review focuses on the design and standards on the site itself and gave a brief overview of the details for the single-story building with parking in front with 35 stalls. He reviewed the handful of issues that were brought up with relation to the sidewalk serving the site and the recommendation that there is a loop sidewalk that would allow residents to take a walking loop around the facility. He stated that they are suggesting that a portion of the st sidewalk be removed in favor of having a sidewalk out to 21 Avenue so people can cross at the intersection. He stated that, in his opinion, 35 parking spaces for this building is more than adequate. He reviewed the planned building materials, lighting, the trash enclosure and screening, landscape plans. The recommendation is for approval of the rezoning and the CUP with conditions as outlined by the City Attorney in the packet and briefly reviewed the conditions. Administrator Statz gave a brief overview of the analysis of the tax situation that was put together by the City assessor. His valuation ended up at $3.5 million, the tax class rate would be 1.25%, which produced an estimated tax of $61,000 and the City portion of that amount would be $22,338. He stated that the City had also asked the assessor to evaluate the lot for something like a generic commercial building or retail outlet. That valuation would be $2.36 million, the tax class rate would be 1.5% for the first $150,000 and then 2% above that amount, which would mean the estimated taxes are higher at $80,000, but the CityÓs portion would only be $23,000, which is very close to the City portion for the senior facility that is presented. He suggested that the developer be given the opportunity to tell the Council a bit about the project. Page 15 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 Mayor Love stated that he wanted to apologize to the developer for Kwik Trip because he neglected to give them the opportunity to tell the Council about their project and noted that if Mr. George was still on the call, he would like to extend that opportunity to him as well. He noted that after the Council is finished voting on this issue, he would like to take a 5-minute recess. Mr. Davis Stradtman, Rachel Development, explained that they see this smaller, more comfortable, high acuity memory care facility as a niche in the market and something that is needed. He stated that there are three of these currently under construction in other parts of the metro area and are planning to do several more. He stated that when you talk about a facility like this and the possible emergency calls that it may create or cause additional taxing on the local emergency system, he would suggest that there is a bit of a different impact. He stated that folks that could use the care that is provided by a facility like this are living at home, by themselves, and are at risk for falls and other emergencies in that scenario. He stated that this kind of thing happens frequently if there is not a facility like this available to those people. He stated that being in this facility moves them out of a potentially dangerous situation of being at home by themselves. He stated that at the facility they will have the care that they need, at their fingertips, 24 hours a day. He reiterated that they feel that they are providing a service that is needed and expressed his pride in the facility that they are proposing. Their operational partner is Great Lakes Management which are a very experienced, well respected senior care facility management company and will have a minority ownership stake in the facility. Council Member King stated that he had spoken with Mr. Stradtman over the phone and noted that all of the assisted living places that he has seen are all at least 3 stories high. He understands that this is a different business model with only 40 units, but explained that he does not understand why it cannot be larger. He stated that he thinks about the Òhighest and best useÓ with regard to land use and reiterated that he does not understand why this building cannot be larger. He asked what the difference is between a high acuity facility and the other nearby assisted living facilities such as the ones in Shoreview and Hugo. Mr. Stradtman stated that high acuity is meant to explain that there is a little bit of a higher level of assistance. He noted that none of the residents in this facility will have a vehicle or be independent living. He stated that a vast majority of people that live in the larger facilities are mostly independent living. This facility will have more care providers per occupant and the idea is that they are able to offer additional care such as two person transfers and managing medication. He stated that the larger facilities are more like senior apartments and are not focused on the assistance component and stated that this proposed facility meets a need in the market and is why it is a bit smaller with more intensive staffing. He gave an overview of the new building codes that restrict multi-level areas in association with memory care and has to be one-level. Council Member King stated that he has been to larger assisted living facilities that are not senior apartments. He stated that perhaps he should have taken a closer look and wonders if those facilities have different stages of assistance like Presbyterian Homes. He reiterated that his comments are related to the size and the fact that he cannot understand why it cannot be larger. Mr. Stradtman reiterated that the building code changes he mentioned are a recent change that restricts multi-floors above or below memory care. He stated that they do have larger facilities that have what Council Member King is referring to, but those facilities can no longer be Page 16 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 constructed in that way anymore. He stated that Presbyterian Homes type of facility are what is called a continuum of care and has everything from active to nursing home type facilities. He stated that with this project they are trying to bring an option to the community for people that need transitional care or more assistance which does not have as many options as an active senior may have. He stated that their building design fits on the parcel and if it were larger there would be more parking required. He stated that they feel that their operation is a good transitional use between more intensive commercial users, such as Kwik Trip, and the residential area. He stated that this will not produce a traffic burden or a noise pollution issue in the area. Council Member Lakso commended the developer for catering their service to the most vulnerable people in the community which she thinks is beautiful. She stated that she does see that there is a need for this type of facility. She stated she will welcome this facility to the City, but noted that she assumed that this item will also be tabled tonight along with the others associated with this parcel. Council Member Koski stated that one thing that concerns him with these types of facilities is safety. He stated that he has concerns for someone who may be attempting to walk across the street without proper traffic control. He asked how this type of safety would be addressed through the design of the building and the property. He stated that at the Planning and Zoning Commission there was discussion about a trail into Willow Glen and assumes that would be addressed later on during Final Review. He asked about the staffing for the facility and what economic impact that may have on the community because he assumes that the staffing will be a fairly high skill level at this facility. Mr. Stradtman stated that the memory care wing will be secured and residents will not be able to come and go without being escorted. He stated that majority of the residents in the assisted living area will also not be outside just strolling around by themselves. He stated that there is an outdoor patio area that is separate for the memory care wing as well as for the assisted living. He stated that there will be a lot of oversight and residents will be with either a family member or a care giver. Staffing for this type of facility will have about 26 total employees with many being paraprofessionals who are trained to provide care to people a well as nursing staff and doctors that are on-call and will come to the facility frequently but will not always be on site. He stated that it does make sense to have a sidewalk loop around the facility which would be used by residents that are being escorted outside, but does not think there will be a need for a trail connection to neighborhoods or other areas in the vicinity. Administrator Statz stated that staff has also recommended that the other sidewalks and suggested connections be eliminated and only the sidewalk loop be included. Council Member Koski explained that he has heard stories of people walking away from this type of facility and causing a safety issue, so this is a big concern to him. He stated that he is also concerned about this being a bit of spot zoning, however this is still a commercial use, but wants the Council to be cognizant of that possibility. Mayor Love asked if there would be any extra added value with the clientele that will use this facility to be closer to a hospital. Page 17 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 Mr. Stradtman explained that it is not critically important. He stated that they will have people in a transitional situation that are recovery from surgery or things of that nature and they will transition from a hospital environment to this type of facility to continue their healing process. He stated that they are not concerned about the proximity to a hospital and are more concerned with what is the population demographic and demand for assisted living within the community. He stated that any suburban Twin Cities community will have a need for assisted living because the nursing homes and care facilities are full and reiterated that there is a need for this particular niche. Administrator Statz agreed that there is a need for this type of facility in the City. He stated that there is an address in town that has had 8 emergency service calls within the last 3 months for things such as the inability to get out of their chair, or get from their bed to the bathroom. He stated that he believes having a facility like this in the City may actually result in a net reduction of these types of calls for the police and fire departments. Motion by Council Member Lakso, seconded by Council Member Koski, to Approve Tabling the request by NorBella Senior Living for a Rezoning Request, Conditional Use Permit (Specialized Care Facility), and Site Plan Review. A roll-call vote was taken. Mayor Love and Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Motion carried. Mayor Love noted that Mr. George with Kwik Trip is no longer on the meeting so he will not open the floor for his presentation. He called for a brief recessed at 9:02 p.m. Mayor Love reconvened the Council Meeting at 9:10 p.m. 5. Belleville Landing Apartments a. Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Commercial to Residential) b. Rezoning (B-2 Main Street Commercial to R-3 High Density Residential) c. Site Plan Review Mr. Carlson stated that this request is for a project called Belleville Landing Apartments for a Land Use Plan amendment from Commercial to high-density residential and rezoning from B-2 to R-3, a Planned United Development by way of a Conditional Use Permit, as well as Site Plan Review for the 103-unit apartment building. He stated that this is proposed for Lot 2, Block 2 of the Rehbein plat. He reviewed the Land Use amendment request for high-density residential as compared to the current Land Use Plan. He stated that this site could be appropriate for high- density residential and, in his opinion, is a perfectly appropriate transition of land uses. He stated that a question to ask is whether this works as a commercial site because it is so far removed from Main Street and next to all the residential in Lino Lakes, Willow Glen, and the Park ÒnÓ Ride lot. He reiterated that when this was rezoned, they kept the entire Rehbein parcel, which is 24-acres, as one designation and was all guided for commercial use. He stated that with a more nuanced look and with this proposal it is appropriate for this northern parcel to be used for high density residential. He noted that in the staff report there is information regarding an analysis of the housing in the City and reviewed some of the general information. He noted that this project gives the City the opportunity to provide a range of housing as outlined in the Comprehensive Plan. Administrator Statz stated that almost all of the 108 units in the City that are multi-family are at Chauncey Barrett, which is a senior facility. He stated that there is only a handful and perhaps Page 18 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 only one multi-plex unit in town which is the old Creamery site near the school that has 14 units. He stated that there is a need for rental/apartment style living in the City. Mr. Carlson stated that if the Council decides to re-guide this parcel, it is almost a foregone conclusion that it will be rezoned so it is consistent with the Land Use plan designation. If that is approved, then the project itself would be a Conditional Use Permit for a Planned Unit Development which allows the City to grant flexibility to the standards and the zoning. He stated that in this case, they are asking for flexibility with regard to the height of the building to be 48.5 feet rather than 35 feet. He stated that three story buildings over a level of parking is very standard and is an appropriate way to get the kind of unit count that you would like and efficiency within the building. He stated that he thinks the height of the building seems appropriate and common for this kind of facility. There are PUD standards in the code that basically say it is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, harmonizes with its surroundings, and will not create a burden on parks, schools, or streets. The Site Plan review gets into the specifics and gave a brief overview of what was included in his staff report. He stated that staff is recommending approval of Land Use amendment and rezoning, should the Land Use amendment be approved, and for the CUP under the PUD with several conditions as outlined. Mayor Love asked if the developer would like to make a presentation to the Council. Mr. Harchanko of Apollo Development, presented an exhibit that gave a visual representation of the building height and how far away the existing homes are. He noted that they are also across two ponds and would not tower over the homes because the height of their building is essentially the same as the peak of the rooftops. He gave a brief overview of the development team and noted that they have been working in the hospitality field and have received numerous awards for their work. He noted that they have a great track record and are happy to provide references if the City would like. Their most recent project nearest to Centerville is the Running Aces Hotel. He explained that part of what they do is engage in qualified people to run the operation and have found Halverson and Blaser Group who have a great deal of experience in this field. He stated that as a general rule, they undersell themselves and over-deliver. He stated that these plans takes years to put together and have not been thrust upon the City in an unprepared or hasty manner. He stated that this is a market rate apartment and they intend to attract the highest and best clients and provide the amenities that will make this a top-notch facility. He stated that this is not a low- income project nor are they asking for any subsidies. He noted that if this was left as commercial zoning, he thinks it is highly likely that a user would be asking for tax abatement Mayor Love stated that there a few items that have been specifically pointed out by members of the public that he would like Mr. Harchanko to address. He asked him to speak about the materials that will be used because that came up and people had questions about EIFS which came up as part of the discussion at the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Mr. Harchanko explained that EIFS stands for Exterior Insulation Finish System and is the method of applying insulation, then a mesh, then a synthetic stucco. He stated that it looks like old fashioned stucco, but is easier to control and provides a more environmentally beneficial insulation barrier. He stated that it is more expensive than cement board siding and also provides a more monolithic water vapor barrier to help control potential mold and water infiltration issues. He stated that a comment was made that the cement board siding would be better and explained that Page 19 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 he agreed that it would be for them as well, just because it is more inexpensive. The design intent was to create a mixed material which is popular because it breaks up the surfaces. He stated that they are open to input from the City as to what would look good. An Apollo Development representative, stated that many of the concerns raised about EIFS is because their information is from the industry from 20-30 years ago. He explained that the product has changed over the last 30 years and noted that many of the issues that were associated with this product were from it being put in incorrectly. He stated that there has been more training into how to install it correctly and the process now really creates a substantially better and safer exterior material than the other products that are out there. He stated that it is more expensive but creates a better barrier to the weathering. Mayor Love stated that one of the other questions that he has seen frequently from the public is the question about the management company and the quality of their work as well as some of their on-line ratings. Mr. Harchanko stated that a representative from the management company was not in attendance at the meeting tonight, and would prefer to have them answer that line of questioning. Administrator Statz gave a brief overview of the tax analysis that was conducted by the CityÓs appraiser. He noted that valuations of apartment buildings are based more on the income, so they looked at the rents and occupancy rates. The valuation came out to $16.5 million, tax class rate of 1.25% for a market rate apartment which means the total estimated taxes are $287,000, with the City portion being $105,000. He reviewed the difference between this proposal and a generic commercial building and noted that the estimated City portion would come out to $35,000. He reminded the Council that there were comments and thoughts regarding this proposal from the police chief included in the packet. He reviewed the analysis of the public safety costs that would be associated with this proposal and explained the formula that he had used to analyze the data. He stated that the increase in costs for public safety would be $24,000 and noted that this is a fairly small component of the CityÓs budget. He noted that he had also done an analysis by assuming that an apartment causes more police and fire calls than average and by doubling the rate he found the total cost to be $31,000. Council Member Mosher asked what the definition of a luxury apartment is versus a standard apartment. Mr. Harchanko explained that it is driven by the market which will change over time. He noted that they get some of the information from the management company because they have their finger on the pulse of the consumer. He stated that currently what is very popular in that price point has certain requirements such as solid surface countertops such as quartz, large, and numerous windows. He stated that carpet is not as desirable in this market, however there needs to be a balance because they have to deal with noise complaints if there is not carpet in heavily used areas. He stated that other desired features are fixtures, stainless steel appliances, 9-foot ceilings, upgraded kitchen cabinetry, tile backsplashes, and other amenities like community rooms, dog washing areas, and exercise rooms. Council Member King stated that at MondayÓs Planning and Zoning Commission meeting there Page 20 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 were issues raised about traffic and safety issues with coming across the road to the Park ÒnÓ Ride. He stated that he was also concerned about the patio deck because of noise and light and asked how it will be buffered. A representative of Apollo Development stated that is on the south side of the building, farthest from the residential areas and is actually down a level on the roof on the third floor, so the building will actually block any noise to the north. He noted that there is probably 500-600 feet to the nearest house. Council Member King asked if the noise would then be heading towards the senior assisted living facility. A representative from Apollo Development stated that the senior living center is pushed to the east side and they are on the west and would guess that there are at least 250-300 feet to the assisted living facility, with one end being a bit closer than that. He stated that it will also be two stories above the assisted living facility. He stated that he would guess that most of the activity at the assisted living facility will take place inside the building and the residents will not spend vast amount of their time, especially late in the day, outdoors. Council Member King stated that his biggest concern for this facility is that he wanted it to be big and expensive, but there are no guarantees anywhere in the future that it will stay that way and not become a rent-controlled building. Council Member King asked if there could be some kind of an agreement that the rent would always stay high and assumes it will help that they will have all the amenities he listed like the exercise room, community room and dog wash area. He reiterated that his biggest concern is that he has no guarantee that in the future, he will leave something to the community that will cause big problems down the line. He stated that he just can say three things: Freeway; Park ÒnÓ Ride; Apartment. He stated that he does not like the set up especially with all of the other comments that the City has received about this. He stated that he has a responsibility to the citizens of Centerville first, but also to all the other people that are in the area. He reiterated that there are no guarantees and questioned what would happen if the building is sold or has government intervention down the road. He stated that he believes in home ownership and people having skin in the game. Mr. Jon Rausch, stated that he has sold about 4,000 apartment unit land over the last 2 years in Woodbury, Eden Prairie, as well as the west end. He stated that Council Member King is right that there are no guarantees beyond what can be foreseen at the moment, which is about a 20-year window and explained that this will be a ÒClass AÓ apartment building in the City. He stated that the level of finishes and amenities will make this the best in the area and noted that this is the only ÒClass AÓ market rate apartment that he has seen done in this area. Council Member King stated that he understands that but is concerned about somebody getting stuck with this in 20-30 years. He explained that he does not trust the government even though he is technically part of it. Mr. Rausch explained that he has been doing this kind of work for 23 years and what happened 20 Page 21 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 years ago has no bearing on what is going on today. Council Member King stated that he expecting there to be a housing bubble and other bubbles where people do not have to pay their rent which creates problems. He stated that there are a myriad of things that could happen. He stated that one of the reasons he wants more time is so he can hear from the Centerville citizens. He explained that of the people that e-mailed him, nobody gave him their phone numbers. He stated that he is an Òold guyÓ so he cannot easily e-mail them back and would prefer to just pick up the phone and call them back. He stated that he is part of the Economic Development Authority and wants to develop the City, but has to take into account his role as a Council Member, and also needs to listen to the people because that is what he was elected to do. Administrator Statz noted that a member of the public asked if Mr. Rausch could identify his relationship to the development. Mr. Rausch explained that he is a commercial real estate broker for Cushman and Wakefield and has worked with the Rehbeins for about 15 years. Council Member King stated that many times people say that the City is just ÒrooftopsÓ. He noted that even if Kwik Trip did not come to the City, he has to ask himself why did they were even interested in coming to the City if the ÒrooftopsÓ were not attractive to them. He stated that he would like to get the development that the people in Centerville and Lino Lakes want which is country living and restaurants. He stated that he has served on the Council for a total of 8 years and nobody in that time has ever come to complain about their taxes, but people expect something in return and he has to assume that they like the school district and the other things. He stated that he is going to listen to the citizens as much as possible, and will not stab them in the back, but they need to understand that it may cost them. He stated that he believes this land is developable and apparently so does Kwik Trip because they know there is a lot of business to be captured on this side. He stated that as more houses get built, someone else will come and look at as well. He reiterated his request for the residents to give him their phone number so he can get back to them and asked people to contact him whether they are for or against these plans. Mr. Harchanko stated that Council Member King is correct that there are no guarantees for what the future may bring. He stated that from the developerÓs point of view, he has no guarantee that the interest rates will not go higher and noted that material costs are already going higher. He stated that his fear is that 120 days from now this project may not be feasible if the interest rates have driven the cost of financing too high to make this unappealing. He stated that basically he does not even have a guarantee for 60 days from now and explained that there have been times where delays have caused projects to never happen. Council Member King stated that he understands the material costs issue, but interest rates, when the Country owes as much as it does he does not know how much the interest rates can go up unless the Country is going into the ÒresetÓ. Council Member Lakso stated that she feels like she has listened to everyone who has contacted her and unfortunately will not be able to vote in a way that will please everyone. She stated that she wanted to touch on some of the comments made that assume the type of people that live in Page 22 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 apartments because she does not feel it is a fair assumption or argument. She stated that if there are apartments as well as a Park ÒnÓ Ride nearby, she does not have any assumption of what type of people will live there. She stated that they are people that want to live in Centerville and will be their neighbors. She asked that comments directed to her not talk about the type of people that usually take apartments down or compare to what they have been seen in other places. She stated that there have been good apartments in other places also. She stated that she rides the bus, which saved her a lot of money when she worked downtown St. Paul and noted that the Park ÒnÓ Ride is an amazing amenity for the community. She reiterated that hearing the comments and labeling people based on where they choose to live upsets her. Council Member Koski stated that the apartment portion of this proposal has been the one that has generated the most comments and concerns. He stated that he believes that this needs to be vetted which is another reason that he would like to have more time to look into this and allow for more public input. He stated that he would like this to be a three-way communication from the public, the businesses, and from the City point of view of what can and cannot be done. He stated that one of the concerns he has about an apartment in this proposal is the height with relation to fire protection as well as the potential for light pollution. The concept of a mixed use was appealing even though Mr. Harchanko had stated that retail in this environment would be tough. He asked how much they had considered mixed use and having retail located within the building because then it could generate more revenue and would not have to be as tall. He asked if Apollo Development had worked with Halverson and Blaser before and if so, he would like know what their experience has been. He stated that they had mentioned the Running Aces Hotel and asked for other examples of other buildings that they have worked on. He stated that he understands that they cannot guarantee anything, but when it comes to apartments, to him, there is a bit more of a risk that if a home owner were to stop making payments on their home it is only one house that is affected, but if this building goes into default, that is a much larger risk to the community. He thanked Administrator Statz for putting together the tax analysis information and stated that he would expect that the 103 units will house more than 200 people. He stated the analysis also makes an assumption that square foot/square foot, commercial pays more than residential which he wants to make sure is clear. He stated that they are making an assumption that there is not a way to get that large of a commercial building on this piece of property. He noted that as far as the commercial aspect of this, the Council has worked hard and their number one goal is commercial development and questions a decision to take commercial property and turn it over to residential. He stated that there has been a lot of time spent working on the Comprehensive Plan and even work with the EDA to help spur economic development. He stated that he understands that in some respects and apartment building can do that, but he also looks at the fact that it would be taking a piece of commercial property away which in some aspects goes against what they have been trying to do with the City goals. He stated that there have been a number of people that have gotten involved, especially from Lino Lakes, which he appreciates. He stated that they have gotten active and he believes that is what this process is all about in giving people the change to be heard. He stated that he knows that this is not easy and thanked them for getting out there. He stated that he serves on the Council in order to help people and to be part of shaping the community. He stated that he understands many of the people involved are from Lino Lakes, but he will not let a border or a street prevent him from hearing their concerns and letting them have some input in this process. He stated that he supports tabling this item in order to get more public input. Mr. Harchanko stated that they have been developing commercial projects for years and one thing Page 23 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 that is not talked about very often is how many local jobs they create. He stated that they have created hundreds of full-time ongoing jobs in addition to the thousands of jobs that are created for local subcontractors and vendors as well as service industry people where they take on their projects. He stated that they always open up the project to as many local people as possible and have found that to be an important part of relationship building within the community. He stated that he is more than happy to get together one on one with Council Member Koski to address his concerns. He noted that he does not have past experience working with Halverson Blaser, but they did vet a number of potential management companies before they were selected. He stated that he believes that they actually got the reference or recommendation about them from someone at the City. He stated that Halverson Blaser would be under contract and can be fired if they are not doing their job adequately. He explained that commercial/retail comes up on all of their projects and unfortunately, in this environment, a lot of that is driven by density, so you sort of get the bad with the good and in order to get the commercial stuff, you have to have a lot of people. He noted that in a previous career he was a corporate architect and developed about 350 restaurants, so he knows what it takes to crank out a high-volume commercial operation like that, which is very tough now in this market. He stated that he is happy to provide a resume of past projects if the Council would like to see those and reiterated his offer to meet with any interested Council Members one on one. Administrator Statz stated that there have been a few common themes raised in the public chat and asked if those could be addressed. He stated that there are questions about the market study and what will draw people to live in this apartment. Mr. Harchanko stated that they view the Park ÒnÓ Ride as a very strong amenity for upscale clientele. He stated that they want to get this building to be as Class A as possible and noted that the only thing they are planning to leave out is a spa because those are extremely expensive. He stated that they want to attract the kind of people that are working professionals and see that as a way to run into St. Paul for an event. He stated that he thinks this location also gets a new resident in the location they want to be in for the right school district as well as people who are downsizing. He stated that they see this as a gem of spot and the interest from institutional real estate professionals has been phenomenal. He noted that Centerville has a lot to offer such as the Park & Ride, great schools, etc. Discussion ensued regarding the market, COVID, etc. Discussion ensued regarding the height of the building as being three stories with an underground parking facility which really means 4-story. Administrator Statz stated that the City does have th another 3-story building in town south on Main Street on 20 Avenue. He stated that the proposed building meets height requirements within the code. Mayor Love stated that it is great to have developers who desire to develop in Centerville and he appreciated all of the input from residents and the community. There was discussion regarding regulations regarding affordability, maintenance, younger generation affordability, owner occupancy, standards of maintenance and pride in community. Motion by Council Member Koski, seconded by Council Member Lakso to Table all four (4) Items as Presented. A roll-call vote was taken. Mayor Love and Council Members King, Koski, Lakso & Mosher voted in favor. Motion carried. Page 24 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 X. COUNCIL/ADMINISTRATOR ANNOUNCEMENTS 1. AdministratorÓs Report Administrator Statz stated that his report was contained in the packet and that he would be happy to answer any questions that Council may have. He stated that if individuals needed assistance with rent, they should dial 211 along with landlords. He also stated that he is pleased with the amount of individuals who have registered for email blasts. He stated that the City has signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the development of Block 7 and that Concept Plans would be available at the Planning & Zoning Commission meeting on May 4, 2021. He also stated that the City is in need of farmers for the Main Street Market and that the Music in the Park program has been expended by several weeks. He reviewed with Council that the Fete des Lacs Committee continues to plan and ensure that the events and volunteers will be safe during the event(s). Council Reports a. Lakso - i. Parks and Recreation Committee Î No report was given. ii. Centennial Fire District Steering Committee Î No report was given. iii. Anoka County Fire Protection Council Î Council Member Lakso stated that the Council met and discussed budget totals for the upcoming. b. Koski Î Council Member Koski stated that Music in Park has been a wonderful event and that he appreciated all individuals that participated in the organization of the event. He stated that he hoped that all interested would attend. He stated that he had attended the Centennial Fire District Awards Ceremony and desired to congratulate all folks that received promotions. He also desired to thank that that provide services on the front lines. i. Planning & Zoning Commission Î Council Member Koski that all that participated in the Planning & Zoning Commission meeting. ii. Centennial Fire District Steering Committee Î Council Member Koski reported that the Fire District recently purchased radios and their next meeting would be held on May 13, 2021. He stated that the Committee was looking at increasing pay for firefighters in an attempt to attract and retain firefighters. c. King Î Council Member King reported that the EDA Banners look nice and that there was a new Anoka County Regional Economic Coordinator. He stated that she seemed nice and that she may be able to assist us in the future. d. Mosher Î Council Member Mosher stated that Kwik Trip may draw additional development in the future. i. Centennial Lakes Police Governing Board Î Council Member Mosher stated that there was no meeting. Page 25 of 26 City of Centerville Council Meeting Minutes April 28, 2021 e. Love Î Mayor Love thanked members of the community who participated in recent meetings. He also that the Planning & Zoning Commission for their meetings. He stated that he had been visiting multiple cities in norther Minnesota recently. He stated that he anticipated a smooth transition back to meetings in public and North Metro TVÓs assistance in cablecasting meetings. XI. ADJOURNMENT Mayor Love recessed the Regularly Schedule Meeting of Council at 10:59 p.m. Respectfully submitted by City Clerk, Teresa Bender. Page 26 of 26