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CITY OF CENTERVILLE
PARKS AND RECREATION AGENDA
Wednesday, December 3,2003 - 6:30 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Roll Call
ll. PUBLIC HEARING(S)
ID. SET AGENDA
IV. APPEARANCES
V. CONSIDERA nON OF MINUTES
1. November 5, 2003 Parks and Recreation Meeting Minutes
VI. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
vn. UPDATES
1. Subcommittees
A. Grants
B. Trails
C. Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park Warming House Renovation
D. Tracie McBride Memorial Park
E. Wheels Skate Park
2. SNO BIZ
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Parks & Recreation Meeting Minutes 10-01-03
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - 6:30 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Parks and Recreation Committee of the City ofCenterville
held the regularly scheduled meeting on October 1,2003, at City Hall, 1880 Main Street.
Present:
Chairperson Tedd Peterson
Vice-Chairperson Wayne LeBlanc
Committee Member Kathy Peil
Committee Member Tedd Peterson
Committee Member Suzanne Seeley
Committee M~mber Andre Ziegler
Absent:
Committee Member Richard Anderson
Council:
Council Member Tom Lee
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Staff:
Kim Stephan
L ROLL CALL
Chairperson Peterson called the meeting to order at 6:40 p.m.
ll. SET AGENDA
Chairperson Peterson requested a discussion of the trail through Pheasant Marsh, Phase Three be
added under Committee Business.
Motion was made by Committee Member Peil, seconded by Vice-Chairperson LeBlanc to
set the October 1, 2003 Parks & Recreation Committee Agenda with the above addition.
All in favor: Motion carried unanimously.
ID. PUBLIC HEARING(S)
None.
IV. APPEARANCES
None.
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IV. CONSIDER~ TION OF MINUTES
It was erroneously stated in the September 3, 2003 Meeting Minutes that the Trails and the
Grants Subcommittees had decided to join as one committee. Committee Member Seeley was
invited to join the Grant Subcommittee, in addition to being a member of the Trails
Subcommittee, as they are currently looking at Trail Grants and the issues of both
subcommittees are similar. The subcommittee members would like to keep these
subcommittees separate however, as in the future they may be working on unrelated issues.
Committee Member Ziegler would like this noted on the last page where members of each
subcommittee are identified.
MotiOJll was made by Vice-Chairper~on LeBlanc, seconded by Committee Member Peil to
approve the September 3, 2003 Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes with
the above changes. All in favor: Motion carried unanimously,
V. COlVIMITTEE BUSINESS
Pheasant Marsh. Phase Three - Trail
Chairperson Peterson requested a discussion of the trail through Pheasant Marsh, Phase 111, be
added under Committee Business. Chairperson Peterson started the discussion by saying the
original trail proposal winds through the east side of the development in a low area. There is
quite a bit of green space, probably because it is low, What Chairperson Peterson would like
the committee to consider is readjusting the placement of the trail along the far east edge where
there is higher ground and the trail would overlook the edge of the pond on the adjacent
property. The original proposal shows the trail ending at Outlot A, Center Oaks II, with the
idea of the trail eventually being continued east to 20th Avenue.
Chairperson Peterson proposes a trail stub be added heading north across Outlot A to Center
Street If the trail cannot be connected to 20th Avenue in the near future, at least this trail would
continue to Center Street instead of dead-ending. The trail stub would be paid for from Parks
& Recreation trail funds. Chairperson Peterson estimates the stub to be 270' - 300' in length.
The committee felt this was a better alternative to the trail dead-ending and not being used by
residents. Chairperson Peterson also reported there is a 6 foot county ditch which runs through
this property to the south. It will be necessary for a culvert to be installed in the south-east
corner.
Council Member Lee suggested attaching a map with the suggested changes to the motion for
the next council meeting. Ground Development is currently looking for approval on the
Developer's Agreement and Final Plat for Pheasant Marsh, Phase III. Chairperson Peterson will
supply Ms. Stephan with a map of the proposed changes/additions.
Pfloation W~~ made by Chairperson Peter~oj]~ sec~nded by Committee Member Seeley to
rfCl)illll1iUmd to cmllrrndl adjusting the tr~H location for Pheasant JV!ar:3h~ Pha:se III and
adding a tlraft~ stub thn:mgh Outlot A, Center Oaks n with the funds for the trail stub to
il:OIDe frol}lm PaE"!iS .& Recreation tran funds. AU in favor: Motion carried ull1arrnimously.
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Vll. UPDATES
Parks & Recreation Committee Mission Statement
Motion was made by Committee Member Seeley, seconded by Vice-Chairperson LeBlanc
to approve the Parks & Recreation Committee's Mission Statement as follows:
"To improve the quality of life for the citizens of Centerville by providing green space for a
variety of year-round programs, leisure time activities and community special events that
contribute toward the physical, social and emotional well-being of citizens of all ages. "
All in favor: Motion carried unanimously.
Ms. Stephan will include this on the web site and check on the possibility of incorporating
it on the trail maps.
Subcommittees
Trails
Committee Member Lindsay talked to representatives from the City of Hugo regarding their
trails and supplied the committee with trail maps from Hugo. Committee Member Lindsay
reports Hugo has an impressive trail system in various stages of completion with trails being
expanded and connected to existing trails. Committee Member Lindsay felt there is a lot of
potential for working with Hugo, Lino Lakes and Anoka County. The City of Lino Lakes is
currently working with Anoka County on a possible pedestrian bridge on County Road 14,
crossing 35E on the north side of the road going into Hugo. All members present felt there was
a great advantage to all the cities working together on future projects.
Grants
Chairperson LeBlanc stated he has a meeting scheduled with a representative from Anoka
County Parks on Thursday, October 9,2003 at 8:30 a.m. All committee members are welcome
to attend. Since the Parks & Recreation Committee is currently looking at grants and trails,
Vice-Chairperson LeBlanc felt it would be a good idea to go over Anoka County's master plan
with the county to ensure Centerville's trails and loops are included, see where the county is at
now, what their future plans are and can we merge everything in the future.
Chairperson LeBlanc said there was a grant submitted for a play structure at Laurie LaMotte
Memorial Park in April of 2001. This grant was rejected at the time, but it was similar to the
grant awarded for Acorn Creek Park. The discussion was whether this grant could be updated
and resubmitted. The previous City Administrator wrote the grant for Laurie LaMotte
Memorial Park. Vice-Chairperson LeBlanc questioned whether this information was on a disk
or backed up somewhere at City Hall. This would make it easier to update the previous grant
application. Ms. Stephan will check on this information. The committee felt this would be a
good place to start gaining experience submitting a grant.
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The Grant Subcommittee has a meeting scheduled for October 14, 2003 - 7:00 p.m. at 1784
Peltier Lake Drive. The Trail Subcommittee will also meet at this time. Ms. Stephan will
ensure this meeting is posted.
Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park Warmin2: House Renovation
The Warming House Renovation Subcommittee has not met at this time. Committee Member
Peil reports the warming house is still on schedule to be re-roofed on Saturday, October 11,
2003. The Centerville Lions plan to do the work, but are still looking for volunteers to help.
The committee requested staff put the information on the city sign the week prior.
Tracie l\tlcBl'ide Memorial Park
The Tracie McBride Memorial Park Subcommittee has not met at this time, but currently has a
meeting scheduled for October 21,2003 - 6:30 at 1818 Fox Run. Ms. Stephan will ensure this
meeting is posted.
The committee would like to get community input. Committee Member Seeley presented the
committee with a draft of some ideas to include in a resident survey, as follows:
To households in the Tracie J.YlcBride Memorial Park neighborhood:
The old water tower will be coming down in the next couple years. The Parkfj and Recreation
Committee would like to take this opportunity to re-design Tracie McBride iUemorial Park.
Pf:e plan to consolidate the three current play lots into one and we will be removing some of
the equipment around the current water tower. Beyond that we are willing to consider any
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Some of the ideas that have been proposed are listed below. Please add any of your own that
are not represented and number them in the order you think you and your family would use
and enjoy them. A rating of "1 " would be the idea you think you would use or like tlte most.
Keep numbering them until you reach the idea(s) you aren't likely to use. Leave blank the
ideas you don'l think you would use.
Please return this questionnaire to City Hall by dropping it off in penson or affcdng postage
and mailing it to us at lSBO Main Street. 1fyo14 are interested in joining the Tracie lvlcBride
Memorial Park redesign subcommittee, please let us know! The Parks and Recreation
Committee meets at 6:3fJ p.rn. on thefir.-;t Wednesday of each month at City Hall.
Please let us know how many people you are representing by filling in the follm-ring:
Number of adults in tlu household: Senior citizens: Children {list their
ages as well, please}: Thanks in advance for your input!
_ full basketball court
_ soccer field
volley ball court
_ horseshoe pit(..'lJ
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_ skate pit (submerged cement bowl) _ street course skate park
_ pop / water vending machines _ picnic shelter with picnic tables
_ picnic tables (no shelter) _ gazebo (enclosed shelter)
_ raised BBQ grills _ BBQ pit with rock skirting
Committee Member Seeley said she thought the most pertinent information to ask on a survey
would be how many people in the household were responding in the household and of what
ages? If the answers veered towards seniors, for instance, that would change the approach of
what was needed at the park. There are children who use the park to skate board and would
like to see equipment at the park such as grinding rails. Committee Member Seeley presented
the idea of a submerged cement pit for skate boarders. Other options to look at are a gazebo
with picnic tables, an enclosed picnic shelter, and possibly vending machines. Vice-
Chairperson LeBlanc questioned whether electricity would be available after the water tower is
removed. Chairperson Peterson said the well house will remain and electricity would be
available. There was discussion as to whether this park could be self-supporting and if vending-
machines were available who would stock the machines and where the extra stock would be
stored. The well house cannot be used for storage. Chairperson Peterson stated there are many
companies who would install the vending machines, stock and take liability for the machines, if
this is an idea the committee decides to pursue. Revenue can be shared with companies,
depending on the contract and company. A play structure would remain at the park, but be
reduced from the current three (3) play areas to one (1) play area for easier maintenance.
Committee Member Seeley stated at the minimum they would like to get a survey out to the
residents in the immediate vicinity of the park, and ideally to as many of the residents as
possible. Chairperson Peterson inquired as to the radius of mailings sent for public hearing
notification. The legal requirement is 300 feet. The committee discussed the options of putting
surveys on doors, stuffing surveys in the next utility billing, sending a separate mailing or
members walking door to door and talking to residents. Ms. Stephan said the utility billing is
approximately 1,400 residents, but there has been very little response to surveys in the past.
The subcommittee decided to walk door to door in the vicinity of the park to survey the
residents in person.
Wheels Skate Park
Committee Member Peil reports the Wheels Park Subcommittee has not met at this time, but
the approach should be the same as with the Tracie McBride Memorial Park Subcommittee.
The input from the McBride survey should be helpful to determine the direction in which the
Wheels Park Subcommittee takes. Committee Member Peil felt this would not be something
that is resolved this winter.
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Council Member Lee stated the City Council 'Nas anxious to have this issue resolved and a
permanent sight determined as it is a waste of the tax payer's money to continually move this
equipment and/or not have the equipment available to be used. Chairperson Peterson said
maybe an option would be to sell the Skate Wave equipment and purchase more Sun Ramp
equipment as the Sun Ramp equipment can be put out in about an hour and a half opposed to
the Skate Wave equipment which takes days to set up. Committee Member Peil stated once the
skate park is permanent which equipment is used will be irrelevant. Discussion was had
whether natural contours and slopes could be used. Asphalt would have to be flat as it needed
to be rolled, where concrete could be formed, but it is more expensive.
YlVICA Play Davs at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park
The YMCA Play Days, which was held at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park in August, was a big
success. There was discussion as to why this program worked so well and cost so little when
other programs such as Wargo Nature Center and the ThfCA daycare were expensive and had
a poor turnout Committee Member Peil will call Lynn Truninger to thank her and see what
needs to be done to set up the program for next year. Committee Member Seeley suggested
asking if the YMCA did any winter programs.
Chairperson Peterson stated he had not seen a final plat for Hunters Crossing, Phase II, but
questioned whether the Parks & Recreation Committee's recommendations were included
regarding sidewalks and trails. Council Member Lee stated the sidewalk will be there and the
trail is per Parks & Recreation's recommendations. Chairperson Peterson said that he thought
just the preliminary plat was approved and the committee would like to see this again because
there were changes made and the information was not brought back to the committee. Vice-
Chairperson LeBlanc felt that before a final plat is approved it should come back to the Parks
and Recreation Committee. Council Nlember Lee said he vvould bring this to Cit~{ Council.
VllI. ADJOURNMEJ.'lT
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson LeBlanc, seconded by Chairperson Peterson to
adjourn the October 1, 2002 Parks & Recreation Meeting at 7:35 p.m. Ail in favor:
Motion carried unanimously.
Trfuiscribed by Kim Stephan
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TO: Economic Development Committee Members
FROM: Kim Stephan
SUBJECT: SNO BIZ Update
DATE: October 16, 2003
SNO BIZ
The Economic Development Committee tentatively selected Friday, February 20 & Saturday,
February 21, 2004 for SNO BIZ. This will be in conjunction with the International Ice Racing
Association's Car Races scheduled for February 21 & 22, 2004 on Centerville Lake. The
committee would like the Experimental Aircraft Association, St. Genevieve's Church, The Quad
Area Chamber of Commerce, the Parks & Recreation Committee and the Centerville Lions
involved in SNO BIZ 2004. The committee will propose that the Centerville Lions have their
annual fishing contest this weekend also. The date will be set at the next scheduled EDC
meeting after discussing it with the other groups involved. The committee is also interested in
changing the name from SNO BIZ to something associated with a winter Fete des Lacs. This
will also be discussed at the next scheduled meeting. Vice-Chairperson Backman suggested an
old fashioned theme for Friday evening with a skate night, bonfire, hot chocolate and horse
drawn hay rides. The Saturday events would be geared towards a modern theme with airplanes
rides and car races.