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CITY OF CENTERVILLE
PARKS AND RECREATION AGENDA
Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - 6:30 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Roll Call
II. SET AGENDA
III. APPEARANCES
1. Mr. Mark Statz, City Engineer - Hidden Spring Park
IV. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
1. April 2, 2008 Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes
V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
1. Proposal to Sponsor a Walk/Run Around Centerville Lake for the Purpose of Stimulating
Community Awareness in Centerville's Recreation Opportunities, Supporting Centerville
Businesses and Raising Parks & Recreation Funding
2. Potential Summer Music Program in Centerville Submitted by Mr. Fred Bailey
3. Ollie & Company, June Event Planning
VI. UPDATES
1. Hidden Spring Park - Recommendations from Mr. Gregg Thompson
2. Tracie McBride Memorial Park Renovations - Update from Mr. Paul Palzer
3. Earth Day Cleanup April 19th - Review
4. YMCA Summer Program - Update from Ms. Liz Guimont
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Parks & Recreation Committee
Meeting Minutes April 2, 2008
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April 2, 2008 - 6:00 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Parks & Recreation Committee of the City of Centerville held the
regularly scheduled Wednesday, April 2, 2008 meeting at City Hall, 1880 Main Street.
Present:
Chairperson Suzanne Seeley
Vice-Chairperson Kevin Amundsen
Committee Member Kevin Selander
Committee Member Mark Haiden
Committee Member Savannah Lee
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Absent:
Committee Member Lori Harris
Committee Member Patrick Branch
Council:
Council Liaison Tom Lee
Staff:
Staff Liaison Kim Stephan
I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Roll Call
Chairperson Seeley called the April 2, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting to order at 6:02
p.m.
II. SET AGENDA
Chairperson Seeley requested adding Mr. Bob Johnson, St. Paul Fire Soccer Club, to the agenda
under appearances to discuss potential usage of green spaces in Centerville for soccer practice.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Haiden to
set the agenda as presented with the addition of Mr. Johnson. All in favor. Motion carried
unanimously.
III. APPEARANCES
Mr. Bob Johnson. St. Paul Fire Soccer Club
Mr. Bob Johnson made an appearance to discuss a proposal for the St. Paul Fire Soccer Club to use
open spaces at Acorn Creek Park and the City owned lot adjacent to the Trio Inn for soccer practice.
The club has seven (7) girls' teams ranging in age from 13-17. The Soccer Club would provide the
following:
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· Goals and nets at each location.
· Appropriate insurance coverage removing any liability to the City.
· The soccer club would be responsible for the lining of fields, unless that is a service which
could be purchased from the city?
· The soccer club would anchor the goals in accordance with recommendations put forth by the
Minnesota Youth Soccer Association.
The time frame being requested would run from approximately April IS - June 30, 2008, Monday
through Thursday from 5 :00 p.m. until dusk. The nets would be left in place for anyone to use the rest
of the time. As for Acorn Creek Park, there would be minimal infringement on the open space because
the nets would be spaced 100 yards apart. Mr. Johnson also suggested the additional traffic
representing kids and parents should benefit local businesses during this time frame.
Vice Chairperson Amundsen stated the City lot on Centerville Road is not in any condition for sports
activities and would actually be dangerous. Council Member Lee stated he would not support using the
vacant City lot as it is not a designated park or green space, it's mostly dirt (mud) and most importantly,
there isn't a fence to keep soccer balls from flying into the traffic on Centerville Road. Council Member
Lee did suggest the large grassy field at Tracy McBride Memorial Park and felt the green space at
Acorn Creek Park should also work. It was suggested Mr. Johnson contact Mr. Doug Porter,
Centennial Soccer Club as they do not use the fields at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park 100% of the
time they have them reserved and maybe S1. Paul Fire Soccer Club could pick up some additional field
time there. Mr. Johnson had looked at Tracie McBride Memorial Park and felt it was not a large
enough area for the club's needs. Chairperson Seeley also stated this park will be under construction
this spring.
Chairperson Seeley was concerned about parking at Acorn Creek to which Mr. Johnson replied on any
given night there would only be 6 - 8 vehicles as many of the players car pool or are drop offs. Ms.
Stephan had talked to Public Works regarding the possibility oflining the fields and was told this is not
something they offer and do not have the equipment to do so. The type of goals and nets were
discussed to which Mr. Johnson said they will be built to the specifications of the Minnesota Youth
Soccer Association and staked to the ground with padlocks. They will be assembled and disassembled
on site and built with wheels so they can be moved if necessary. The goals/nets can be donated to the
City and stored by the City or the soccer club will remove them in the fall and store them.
Motion was made by Chairperson Seeley, seconded by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen to
recommend City Council accept Mr. Johnson's proposal as submitted, excluding the use of the
City lot on Centerville Road. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Mark Statz. City Ent!:ineer - Hidden Sprint!: Park
Mr. Statz, City Engineer was not in attendance at the Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting, but was
at the All Committee/Commission/Council Meeting directly following the Parks & Recreation
Committee Meeting.
The following notes, taken by Chairperson Seeley, were suggestions made during the meeting held on
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at Hidden Spring Park regarding plans to address the problems with the
rain garden and shoreline erosion. Chairperson Seeley reviewed these with the committee members.
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In Attendance: Chairperson Suzanne Seeley, Vice-Chairperson Kevin Amundsen, Parks &
Recreation Committee
Tom Lee, City Council Liaison
Mark Statz, City Engineer - Bonestroo
Paul Palzer, Public Works Director
Greg Thompson, Anoka County Conservation Department
Rain Garden
· Mr. Thompson suggested using an apparatus that measures soil compression to help determine
if the soil layers beneath the rain garden are porous enough to permit appropriate drainage. He
mentioned that even if the soil composition is good, heavy construction equipment can
compress the compost/sand/soil mixture to the point where it won't drain well. He has the
equipment and is willing to come back after the ground has thawed to measure it for us.
· We also talked about testing the drainage by opening up the fire hydrant, measuring the water
as it fills the rain garden, then timing the absorption rate. The Rice Creek Watershed District
can supply us with the number of gallons that would be equal to a 2 inch rain and the amount of
time it should take to drain.
Shoreline Erosion
The following were the suggestions made by Mr. Thompson:
· Install new, sixteen inch bio-Iogs adjacent to the shoreline.
· Use a double or triple layering of snow fencing to stop wave action.
· Re-establish plantings in the bio-Iogs and for three feet immediately behind the bio-Iogs (in the
transition zone) to eighteen inches above the average water level.
. Use a mix of 75% lake sedges and 25% wild flowers.
· Prairie Cord Grass is highly recommended and would provide a better viewing ofthe lake.
· Rather than using rock on the north side of the shoreline where the steepest drop off is, place a
"rock log" (which is river rock rolled in chain link fencing) and anchor bio-Iogs to it. Use a C-
125 erosion control blanket to cover (encase?) the 16" bio-Iogs and plant heavily with the
previously mentioned plantings. Place branch bundles with dirt fill where erosion has taken
place.
· Also, without the additional cost of purchasing rock, there should be no additional cost to the
city to correct the shoreline.
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· City staff will fill the rain garden with a measured amount of water and allow it to drain out.
This drain-down will be timed to determine if the rain garden drainage is meeting expectations.
If it is not, Bonestroo will facilitate soil amendments to increase the infiltration ability prior to
replanting of the rain garden.
Mr. Mark Statz was in attendance for the last 10 minutes of the meeting and gave the committee an
update in that he had talked to Mr. Thompson who was working on the information recommended at
the March 26, 2008 meeting at Hidden Springs and as soon as Bonestroo had that information they
would begin work to stabilize the shoreline.
Chairperson Seeley stated the committee wanted to be kept informed of the progress and notified as
to when the work was to begin, as well as a time frame as to what would be done when as some
members would like to be present to view the work as it is being done.
IV. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
March 5. 2008 Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes
Chairperson Seeley requested changing the word 'partied' to 'parties' on page 5, paragraph 2, under
Hidden Spring Park.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Selander
to approve the March 5, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes with the above
correction. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
VI. UPDATES
Hidden Spring Park
This item was discussed under appearances.
Tracie McBride Memorial Park Renovations
There are no current updates from Mr. Palzer regarding the time frame of the work to be done or the
colored cement. Mr. Palzer said he will be able to supply detailed information for the May meeting.
Earth Dav Cleanup April 19th
Staff had to make a trip to Sam's Club for supplies and at that time bags, gloves, water and cookies
were purchased for Earth Day supplies for the committee and participating volunteers. Ms. Colleen
Greensweig called City Hall to say members of the Centennial Little League would be cleaning up
Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park on Saturday, April 12, 2008 from 8:30 to II :30 a.m.
Regarding what to do with the garbage that will be picked up during the park cleanup Mr. Palzer said
the volunteers can either leave the bags at the parks and Public Works can pick them up, or they can
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drop them off at the new public works building. He would provide a gate opener to access the
dumpster.
Summer Proerams
Included in the packet was a flyer from the YMCA for the summer programs. Ms. Liz Guimont
dropped off 1,500 copies to be included in the next utility bill and be distributed to local businesses.
Ollie & Company. Skate Board Competition
In discussing the Ollie & Company events, Council Member Lee reported he had talked to Mr.
Keiselhorst regarding having Ollie & Company as a Fete des Lacs event and Mr. Keiselhorst agreed
it would be great to have an event specifically focused on the teenagers, but the Centerville Lions
probably cannot finance the event. The June event is connected to Fete des Lacs also in that the
Battle of the Bands would be a pre-elimination for the Fete des Lacs Battle of the Bands. Council
Member Lee is willing to use his P A equipment for the June event at no cost. Committee Member
Lee has worked up a design for fliers/posters and Vice-Chairperson Amundsen has worked on a
design for the T-shirts. The committee felt that this is an important event for the youth of the
community and would like City Council to consider reallocating some of the funds that would have
been spent on the parade to cover the expenses of both Ollie & Company events.
Motion was made by Committee Member Selander, seconded by Committee Member Haiden,
to recommend to City Council the funding of a June 2008 Ollie & CompanylBattle of the Bands
event and a Fete des Lacs Ollie & Company event by reallocating some of the Fete des Lacs
Parade funds, not to exceed $2,000 total for both events. All in favor. Motion carried
unanimously.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Selander
to adjourn the March 5, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting at 8:25 p.m. All in
favor. Motion passed unanimously.
Transcribed by Kim Stephan
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CITY OF CENTERVILLE PARKS
AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
Proposal submitted to: Centerville, Minnesota, Parks and Recreation committee
Submitted by: Patrick Branch, Member Parks and Recreation Committee
Proposal: That the Centerville Parks and Recreation committee sponsor a competitive run
and fun walk around Centerville Lake for the purposes of: stimulating community awareness
in Centerville's recreation opportunities, supporting Centerville businesses, and raising park
and recreation funding.
Funding Objective: Races of this nature are typically supported by participant fees and
sponsored by local business offering related products or services.
I) The objective should be to off-set race expenses through sponsor donations.
2) Runner's fees could be used to fund Centerville's Park and Recreation annual budget. A
well planned race should draw approximately 1,000 runners/walkers. A $25 fee is
reasonable. The potential is to net $25,000 for Centerville's parks.
Recommended Timing: Saturday of Fete des Lacs weekend at approximated 7:00 or 8:00
o'clock in the morning. Due to planning times required this event may have to wait until Fete
des Lacs 2009.
Course: The exact course remains to be determined and certified. Approximate course would
begin and end in Laurie laMotte Memorial Park and would circle the Centerville Lake via the
Rice Creek Regional Park and the new trail along state route 14.
Factors to Consider:
I) This event will require considerable planning and organization. Recommend that we hire
a race management firm to assist in both planning and conducting the race.
2) Coordination and support from local law enforcement and medical readiness team is a
must.
3) Success will be dependent upon active sponsorship from a food and water vender. A
health and fitness sponsor would be helpful.
4) Volunteers are very important. Recommend we work with local Scout Troops and
Churches for manning water stations and course monitors.
5) Advertising the event is critical. The need to advertise where it will be seen by runners
may be a guiding factor in selecting the best date for this event.
6) City Council approval is necessary. We will need up-front funding to start the planning
and advertising. The amount of early funding has not been determined. Early funding
will be returned to the City Council in full after the event.
The full Parks and Recreation Committee will need to be involved. I will volunteer to be the
Race Director and to lead the Race Committee.
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TO: Parks and Recreation Committee Members
FROM: Kim Stephan
SUBJECT: Hidden Spring Park
DATE: May 1,2008
The following correspondence is from Mr. Gregg Thompson, Urban Conservation Specialist, regarding the
issues at Hidden Spring Park and his recommendations.
I went back out to the site last week after snow was gone and I was able to bust through the ice to get some cross-
section information. It would still be very useful to get lake-level information for Centerville Lake - what is the lake-level
now compared to its average level etc. With the snow gone, it became obvious that the entire shoreline needs to be
stabilized, to varying degrees. My proposal would be:
Below is a link to download a Microsoft PowerPoint file with some recent photos of the site and my proposal for
stabilization (cross-sections) from my assessment. I also included some slides of an article from a recent Land &
Water magazine that also used the rock-roll gabion & biolog combination, but on a stream bank.
http://download.vollsendit.com/F761 074113C300 15
I am also attaching a quantity & cost estimate for materials for the project
Gregg Thompson
Urban Conservation Specialist
Association of Metropolitan Soil & Water Conservation Districts
16015 Central Avenue NE #103
Ham Lake, MN 55304
(763) 434-2030 x. 15
(763) 286-6985 (cell)
qreqq@metroswcd.orq
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and Trench Parkin!;:'1 ivc Faseines. The
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remo"e and replacc thc il1\'asih~ plants
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bundles of brandl stems or bl~\I1ches. also
callcci live t~lscines. Typically. thc <;tCIllS
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root species, The bundles arc laid in
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and staked into posilion and then bad
filled. Construction stakes are cOll1ll1only
u:-,cd for this purpOSl:. a:- lhl'Y act a~
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slope. therL'by lIlillimi7ing shallc)\\.; SIOPl'
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lion from livc w(l[cr 10 vcgct;1ted soils.
breaking lip long slupc~ into a series of
shorter slopes. They pl'Ovidl.: surl;lce sta-
bility fix the planting. introduction. and
establishment of indigenous vcgetation.
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li)slcr th~ development or vegetal ion on
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specific elevation ~II thc water's edge.
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placed and ~ecured in lhe Irench.
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IYlIlg soils with hardwood stakes and rope
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creating a le\'el bench about fi\'(~ tect
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li:et above: normal pool. :\ 16" \'qrcl:tted
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way llr ladng gl..'ogrid to the I..'xtenor net
and embedding the grid In ~oil com-
pacted in six inch lith, The third and final
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normal pool. Ine third C0l110llr lll,li/<:d a
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STABILIZATION
View lookln!: upstream at three contours about one month after completion.
plctcd the cntl ofAlIgu:,1 al a IOlal cost of
S4X.OOO fill' "hOlll a 150 Ii. long arc,\.
A portion of the ARTSPARK sill'
was all old landfill. E\ cry shovel or din
ll1o\'cd in Illl' vicinity or the rin~r bank
cont:IIJ1ed broken pieces of reinforced
coneretl:. ;1:.[)l1all, rllstl..'d melal and appli-
ances. broken glass. steel pipe, and other
rubbish. CJ\:W s41fety anti health wcr..: an
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1111 rodlH:liun
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and Southcrn Indiana, :>lIIK'n:u a dc\ a~lat-
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fish died ti'OIn Anderson In Indianapoli~.
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lificd as Ihe ";\lurl:l: of th~ pollulioll
:lgrecd II) P:lY ':-142 Inlllion In fine, and
1l\:lIaltk~ and pkad !;uilty t~) violations of
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I-March/April 2008
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comprised of members from \ aflllUS
group" In the Impacled areas along the
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TrtI.;,tce, on the selecth)n and implcm':li-
talion or [\.'Sloralioll projl.'cts 10 b~ funded
\\ilh the \VRRr.
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the heart of I\road Rlppll' Village on Ihe
1I0nh 'ldL"' o!' IndianaI'll/is. is a 1101-
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media, hosls frc\.' puhlil' al'LTSS III national
arti;;ts' C\pnSlthHls and nwintams
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and sculpllln: park horderco in thc north
b\ Ihc.: White.: Rin;r. This nalllr.1! creatl\\:
playground ~h(lweases open-air studios
ucvdopcd lix pl'opk or all agl's and \Ibi li-
tics 10 touch. play, create and gW\\. Thl'
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prepared by:
Anoka Conservation District
Shoreland Stabilization BMP:
Shore land Stabilization I Shore land Plantings I Buffer Raingarden
Centerville Lake Park (Hidden Springs Park)
Project Summary
Linear Feet: 150
Centerville Lake (eastern I southeastern shore)
Centerville, MN
COST ESTIMATE
Shoreland - Structural Materials: Qty Unit Unit Cost Amount Potential Source
Wire-Mesh Grid (11.5 gauge minimum) (Ie. Chain-Link Fence roll) (1 roll = 6' x 50') 4 roll $ 91.50 $ 366.00 Hardware Store
Wire-Ties ('Hog Rings? (securing wire-mesh to itself) 200 each $ 0.05 $ 10.00 Hardware Store
Geosynthetic-Fabric (below & behind gablon-roll) 600 sq ft $ 0.30 $ 180.00 Brock-White
Rock (3-6" anglular or cobble) (fill-material tor minl-gablon-roll) 14 cy $ 30.00 $ 420.00 Rock Supplier
Delivery - Rock 1 load $ 100.00 $ 100.00 Rock Supplier
IBio-Log (Coconut-fiber-16"dla. X 10' @9Ibs/fl.) 16 roll $ 112.00 $ 1,792.00 Brock-White
Turf-Reinforcement Mat (NAG SC250 or equlv; 1 roll = 6.67' x 55.5' = 370ft2) (wrap biolog) 3 roll $ 135.00 $ 405.00 Brock-White
I Rope (rot-resistant) (5' length every 24") (secure blolog to gablon) 400 feet $ 0.25 $ 100.00 Hardware Store
Erosion-control Matting (C7 or or equiv; 1 roll = 6.5' x 165' = 1,072ft) (bank-tace) 1 roll $ 400.00 $ 400.00 Brock-White
IWood-Wedge Stakes for ECM (NAGreen 24" Eco Stakes or equiv) 160 each $ 0.60 $ 96.00 Brock-White
Shoreland - Vegetation Materials: Qty Unit Unit Cost Amount Potential Source
Native Transitional Plug (deep Into blolog) (12" spacing) 144 each $ 1.00 $ 144.00 Native Plant Nursery
Native Transitional Plugs - (between blolog & bank face) (6" spacing) 576 each $ 1.00 $ 576.00 Native Plant Nursery
Native Transitional I Upland Plugs (top of bank) (12" spacing) 432 each $ 1.00 $ 432.00 Native Plant Nursery
Delivery - Plants (perennial plugs in flats & potted shrubs) 1 delivery $ 100.00 $ 100.00 Native Plant Nursery
ESTIMATED SHORELAND PROJECT MATERIALS & DELIVERY COST $ 5,121.00
Page 1 of 4
Teresa Bender
From: Gregg Thompson [gregg@metroswcd.org]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:02 PM
To: Statz, Mark R
Cc: Gregg Thompson
Subject: Re: Centerville Lake
Mark,
1. Regarding the soil issue - I am proposing that the 91blft. 16" diameter biolog be wrapped in a turf-reinforcement
mat (synthetic) that will never go away. I am also recommending that the biolog be planted with specific plugs
that do well in biologs (blue flag iris, lake sedge, etc.). The plugs I'm suggesting using in the actual soil backfill
area (lake sedge - strongly rhizomatous), and redosier dogwood live-staking, have a track-record of establishing
quickly. Although the biolog fiber should break down in about 6-8 years, the TRM & root systems should be there
for many years into the future. The biologs that were put into Centerville Lake last year were shredded from being
too low -I believe that setting them (and achoring them) on the mini-gabion, sitting a little higher, will extend the
life of the biologs to what we are seeing typically for a life-span, while the plantings in and behind them get
established.
2. Regarding the live-staking, it is not too late to harvest those, although if they are cut and then stored for too
long, they will dry out and die. One of the best ways to do live-staking, is to harvest them on the same day (or
day before) they are going to be staked. With the dogwoods, especially, their lower 2/3 of the stems should be
soaked in water before placing as live-stakes (softens the bark skin and gives a higher chance of sending out
roots).
Also, the stakes should not be "pounded in" - a pilot hole should be made first (with a diameter of similar size),
then put in the live-stake. Pounding them in can strip the bark off, as its going into the soil (depending on soil-
compaction level, soil-type, rock presence, etc.). Dogwoods have an approximate 60% chance of survival as live-
stakes (willow are around 90%), so any advantages you can give them will be useful in giving them a good
chance. Also, I do not suggest lopping off the top of the dogwood live-stakes (adds another end that can dry out
and die) - I suggest leaving on the branch tips, but clipping off the side-branches so it can slide into the pilot hole
with minimum air-pockets.
Also, the live-stakes need to extend down to the water table to access consistent moisture that helps them sprout
roots - no soil-moisture, no sustainable re-sprouting. The stake length needed will be dependent on the depth
from the soil-surface to the water-table.
Live-staking (and harvesting) of dogwood in mid-July can be done, but great care is needed with the dogwood
cut-ends, to keep them from drying out and giving them a 12-hour soaking before placement, if the bottom 2/3 of
the live-stake isn't going to be sitting in consistently moist soils.
Regarding live-staking of shrubs at Centerville Lake, although I wouldn't suggest willows (sometimes people
freakout at the mention of willows), I do think that much of that site would benefit from the reintroduction of the
great soil-holding root capacity of redosier dogwood. Herbaceous roots can only do so much on steep lakeshore
areas - a matrix of root-types (both herbaceous, shrubs and trees) has the greatest chance of being a sustainable
stabilization method. Shrub clearing is often what ultimately gets steeper lakeshore banks into a whole lotta
trouble. There is another shrub that would work (False Indigo - Amorhpa fruticosa) but it doesn't work as live-
staking - and one can now only get it as bare-root (seasonal availability) and potted. I bought some through a
bare-root sale at the Anoka Conservation District, for planting at the lake I live on, but I could donate 25 of them to
Centerville's project if you were interested. otherwise, I could push the parks folks a little harder on the need for
at least some redosier dogwood.
Hope this is helpful. If you guys aren't comfortable with my toe proposal, I would be open to some more
discussion and possible revision, but I feel quite comfortable with it.
4/28/2008
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What do you think?
Thanks,
Gregg
Gregg Thompson
Urban Conservation Specialist
Association of Metropolitan Soil & Water Conservation Districts
16015 Central Avenue NE #103
Ham Lake, MN 55304
(763) 434-2030 x. 15
(763) 286-6985 (cell)
gregg@metroswcd.orQ
- Original Message --
From: Gregg Thomgson
To: thom~gLegg
Sent: Monday, April 21 , 20085:24 PM
Subject: Re: Centerville Lake
- Original Message -
From: Statz. Mark R
To: 9regg ThQmgsQfl
Sent: Monday, April 21 ,20085:11 PM
Subject: Centerville
Gregg,
One more question. Is it too late in the spring to harvest the live stakes? Also, we had proposed
live stakes in our re-design this spring, but the Park Board did not seem to want that wild look. I
think we discussed avoiding willows/dogwoods because they would not allow a good view of the
lake when they get mature.
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
mark.statz@bonestroo.com
- Original Message --
From: Statz, Mark R
To: Gregg Th_QrrlRson
Sent: Monday, April 21 ,20084:58 PM
Subject: FW: Gregg Thompson
Gregg,
Could you please respond to our designer's question below.
Thanks.
Mark Statz, PE
Assodate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
ma rk. statz@bonestroo.com
4/28/2008
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.. Bonestroo
From: Smyth, John R
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:56 PM
To: Statz, Mark R
Subject: RE: Gregg Thompson
Mark,
Can you ask Gregg Thompson what holds the soil filled-in upslope of the biolog once the biolog
dissolves in a couple years. It appears that as shown there would be a 16 inch vertical slope
once the biolog dissolves.
John Smyth
Associate
Tel 651-604-4708
Cell 651-775-5104
john .smyth@bonestroo.com
~~ Bonestroo
From: Statz, Mark R
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 3:22 PM
To: Smyth, John R
Subject: Gregg Thompson
John,
Here's a link to the file Gregg sent the link to. This will save you from having to download that
file.
I:\616\.61607155\Design\GreqgThompson Recom mendations 4.21~8-,-QQ!
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
mark.statz@bonestroo.com
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4/28/2008
MEMO
TO: Parks and Recreation Committee Members
FROM: Kim Stephan
SUBJECT: Updates
DATE: May 1,2008
Tracie McBride Memorial Park Renovations
The following update is from Mr. Paul Palzer:
The Council at their last meeting approved a contract to Andy Ross for the new border and playground area
and he will be coordinating with Game Time for the new play structures. The well house work will be
completed this week and the play structure work is scheduled to be completed by June 15th unless we have
unseasonably poor weather.
Mr. Palzer also reported that to actually color the cement blue as the committee requested would be cost
prohibitive as it is a substantial additional cost per yard. To paint the cement with a blue epoxy there is an
additional charge, but less than coloring the cement. Mr. Palzer will have these costs for the committee
before the next meeting. There is no extra charge to color the cement a tannish-red as that is done with a
clay product opposed to the chemicals required for blue.
YMCA Summer Proe;rams
The following update is from Ms. Liz Guimont:
Centerville Park Play Days registration is looking great. It is definitely a GO for this summer! We haven't
had much response for the Skate Park, but we'll keep our eye on it and keep you updated. I was wondering
if there is an indoor space where we might be able to keep a few supplies in. I know there was a warming
house we had used before, could we get a key for that again? Just let me know any specifics about the park
and anything else you need from us. I have copied Kate Bronson on this email; she will be the main contact
over the summer. Thanks so much for collaborating with us and I'm very excited for the program to start!