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CITY OF CENTERVILLE
PARKS AND RECREATION AGENDA
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 6:30 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Roll Call
II. SET AGENDA
III. APPEARANCES
IV. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
1. July 2, 2008 Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes
V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
1. Additional Lighting Request at Tracie McBride Memorial Park
2. Trail Priorities
3. Drinking Fountain at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park
VI. UPDATES
1. Tracie McBride Memorial Park Renovations
2. Hidden Spring Park
3. Fete des Lacs 2009 Centerville Lake Walk/Run
4. Hail Damage to Pavilions
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Parks & Recreation Committee
Meeting Minutes July 2, 2008
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, July 2, 2008 - 6:00 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Parks & Recreation Committee of the City of Centerville held the
regularly scheduled Wednesday, July 2, 2008 meeting at City Hall, 1880 Main Street.
Present:
Chairperson Suzanne Seeley
Vice-Chairperson Kevin Amundsen
Committee Member Lori Harris
Committee Member Patrick Branch
Committee Member Savannah Lee
Committee Member Mark Haiden
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Absent:
Committee Member Kevin Selander
Council:
Council Liaison Tom Lee
Staff:
Staff Liaison Kim Stephan
I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Roll Call
Chairperson Seeley called the July 2, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting to order at 6:35
p.m.
II. SET AGENDA
Chairperson Seeley added a discussion of the possibility of installing a pump to the spring at Hidden
Spring Park under Updates.
Motion was made by Committee Member Haiden, seconded by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, to
set the agenda as presented with the above addition. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
III. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Mav 7. 2008 Parks and Recreation Committee Meetinl! Minutes
Chairperson Seeley requested the full affiliation of the job title for Mr. Gregg Thompson be added to
his name on page 3 of 6, frrst paragraph under Appearances, Mr. Mark Statz, Hidden Spring Park.
Also in the same section Chairperson Seeley asked to clarify in the last sentence that if we start to see
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failure with the lake shore restoration we can step in before we lose too much and make a decision to
'consider' going to riprap.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Haiden, to
approve the May 7, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes with the above
addition and clarification. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
JUDe 4. 2008 Parks and Recreation Committee Meetine: Minutes
There was not a quorum at the June 4, 2008 regularly scheduled committee meeting.
V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
Trail Portion of 2009 Street Proiect
Council Member Lee asked the committee to consider their recommendation for the trail proposed
along Mill Road. The City received a Trail Grant of $704,000, with the City's portion being
approximately $202,000. Council Member Lee informed the committee that the grant monies received
are difficult to get and if not spent the chances of receiving these grant monies again would be greatly
reduced. A trail was proposed along Mill Road with the 2009 Street Project, but the road has been has
been taken out of the project and the residents along Mill Road were opposed to a trail or a sidewalk
being added to their street. The committee feels strongly that Mill Road is dangerous to pedestrians
and bikes and should have a trail as it is a collector street; it is narrow and is very busy. Taking into
consideration the feelings of the residents concerning a trail, the committee still felt it was their
obligation to look at what was best for the community as a whole and that would be to have a trail on
Mill Road. The committee discussed at length the Mill Road resident's objections verses the safety of
the road and while reluctant to go against the resident's wishes would like to recommend to City
Council that Mill Road have a trail constructed within the easement using the Trail Grant monies.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Haiden to
recommend City Council proceed with the trail being constructed on Mill Road per the
specifications in the 2009 Street Project, the Comprehensive Trail Plan and the plan submitted
for the grant monies due to the connectivity of the trail plan and the safety of the residents with
the understanding the residents of Mill Road will not be assessed for this trail as Federal Grant
Funds will be used. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
VI. UPDATES
Tracie McBride Memorial Park Renovations
The following update was for the committee in an email from Mr. Paul Palzer:
The work at Tracie McBride Memorial Park should be completed fully by the meeting. The only items
I'm waiting on are the touch up painting and the class 5 gravel near the pump house. I did talk with
Harlan about the whirl and he stated the mounting imtructions call for installation from 6-18" above
the fall protection. We are at 18" if you level out the sand and I questioned him why we were not
informed of the height preference and stated his imtalIer only gave us the height of the curbing as their
only direction for height. He said that imtallation imtructions should have been sent to City Hall
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weeks prior to the delivery and I know that both Andy and I called him to receive those instructions
prior to the equipment delivery, but never received them.
Committee Member Harris stated the play structure for the 3 - 5 year olds is in place and appears to be
great, but the merry-go-round is installed too high and something needs to be done with that as it is
really not usable as it is for the group intended. It is however, the equipment the kids appear to
gravitate to. The climbing wall did not get ordered in this phase, but hopefully will be ordered as soon
as funding is available. Ms. Stephan suggested requesting funds from Dead Broke Saddle Club who
were very generous with donations for the play structure in Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park.
Committee Member Harris also stated that Mr. Palzer had told her there was a plexi-glass message
board at Public Works which could be installed at the park for community messages. Ms. Stephan will
talk to Mr. Patzer regarding this item. Committee Member Harris requested Public Works raise a few
of the swings a couple of links. Ms. Stephan will pass this on. The basket ball hoop could use a coat of
paint and a hoop. Council Member Lee volunteered to take care of this project himself.
Hidden Sorint!: Park
Mr. Mark Statz, City Engineer requested adding an item under updates regarding the rain garden draw-
down test. He stated Mr. Palzer would have a memo summarizing the results of the test for the
committee to review.
Mr. Palzer emailed the following update:
Monday, June 23, 2008 at 9:00 a.m. Chris Long (Bonestroo) and I filled the rainwater garden to the
overflow outlet level. The weather was dry for two days and when I observed the rainwater garden on
Wednesday morning at 9:00 a.m. and it was dry except for a small amount of water near the inlet that is
lined with rocks and creates a small pool. The rainwater garden appears to meet the new rule of 48
hours for filtering and the plants that are located in the garden appear to be doing well.
The following update was from Mr. Dallas Larson following the Wednesday, June 25, 2008 City
Council meeting:
The Council approved the Hidden Spring Park shoreline work, which was designed by Gregg
Thompson and will be constructed by Natural Shore Technologies, Inc. Mr. Thompson will monitor the
construction and Bonestroo will drop to the background, except to pay for the work.
Mayor Capra had asked the committee to consider adding some type of pump to the spring at Hidden
Spring Park so there would actually be sufficient water flow. Chairperson Seeley asked Committee
Member Haiden if he would be willing to do research on what are the options available for this and
report back to the committee. Committee Member Haiden said he would look into this. The
committee would like to see the spring continue to be natural if possible and it was suggested
Committee Member Haiden start by contacting Barett Well Drilling.
Chairperson Seeley discussed with the committee many of the items that were on the City Engineer's
punch list to be repaired at the park which have yet to be taken care of. The committee members are
quite frustrated at the lack of action on some of these items such as the divots in the trail and parking
lot at both Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park and Hidden Spring Park caused by the contractor and
reported by Public Works since last August when the contractor's equipment was actually still at the
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site. There are many small items that have not been resolved. Chairperson Seeley will do another walk
through and submit a list to Mr. Mark Statz, City Engineer and copy Mr. Dallas Larson, City
Administrator and Mr. Paul Palzer, Public Works Director.
2009 Fete des Lacs 8K Run
Committee Member Branch has been researching the potential for the Parks & Recreation Committee
to sponsor an 8K Run around Centerville Lake as part of 2009 Fete des Lacs. Originally looking at a
larger event of perhaps 1,000 entrants, Committee Member Branch's research dictated setting sights
lower for the inaugural run at 250 entrants. The committee can help reduce costs in a couple of areas
such as promotions with the graphic design done by committee members. Committee Member
Branch's draft budget is approximately $4,000 with this cost potentially being recouped with a $20
entry fee and possibly by obtaining sponsors, though the sponsors may be more difficult to find with
the first annual run. Eventually the committee is hopeful that this will be a fund raiser for the Parks &
Recreation Committee. The reason this is coming to City Council at this time is to get preliminary
approval to be included in the Fete des Lacs budget so the committee can know whether to move
forward. There is a publication called 'Running Minnesota' which is published annually each fall by
the Minnesota Distance Running Association with all the following year's Minnesota races included.
The information needs to be to the association some time in August to be included. This would be the
most complete form of advertising for the race.
Motion was made by Committee Member Branch, seconded by Chairperson Seeley to request
City Council consider budgeting $4,000-$5,000 for the 2009 Fete des Lacs 8K Run, to be
potentially ~ouped from entry fees and sponsors. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
Battle of the BandsIBoards - Ollie & Company
Committee Member Lee updated the committee on Battle of the BoardslBands. There were only two
(2) bands involved in the Battle of the Bands, as three (3) bands cancelled prior to the event. The event
was well attended with approximately 50 participants in the Battle of the Boards. All the committee
members in attendance thought the event was a success.
TheftlVandalism at Wheels Skate Park
There was some discussion as to the recent vandalism with graffiti at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park.
Council Member Lee thought making an announcement about the vandalism at the Battle of the
BoardslBands would be beneficial since so many community youth would be there and it was hoped
they could be encouraged to police themselves. There was no vandalism prior to the event, but graffiti
reoccurred shortly after. A backpack with a camera in it was stolen at the event and reported to the
police. Vice-Chairperson Amundsen reported there were kids climbing on the roof of the pavilion at
Hidden Spring Park as the picnic tables were removed off the cement which enable the kids to get onto
the roof. Ms. Stephan will request Public Works move the tables back under the pavilion.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made by Committee Member Haiden, seconded by Committee Member Branch,
Amundsen to adjourn the July 2, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting at 8:25 p.m. All
in favor. Motion passed unanimously.
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Kim Stephan
From:
Dallas Larson [dlarson@centervillemn.com]
Thursday, July 24,20083:24 PM
Tom Lee; Iinda@coxins.net; 'Dan & Mary Capra'; 'Jeff Paar'; Kurt B. Glaser; 'Lakso, Michelle';
Linda Brousard-Vickers; 'Tom Lee (work)'; Kevin Amundsen; Kevin C Selander; Kim Stephan;
Lori Harris; Mark Haiden; Pat Branch; Suzanne Seeley
Cc: Teresa Bender; Kim Stephan; 'Meyer John'; Paul Palzer; 'Statz, Mark R'
Subject: Trail Priorities
Attachments: Sc450f-2eas0807241 0550. pdf; Sc450f-2eas08072410560.pdf
Sent:
To:
Council members and Park and Rec members:
Please read the information below then share with me your top five priorities for trail segments from the attached
list. I will pass the information along to Mark Statz for his report. Please do not "reply to aiL" Thank you.
iJ)affas Larson, )Itiministrator
City of Centerviffe
651-429-3232
-----Original Message-----
SUbject: Trail Priorities
At last night's Coundl Workshop, I was going to have the Council vote on their priorities for trail segments to be
built with the grant monies. However, Kurt, our attorney put the kibosh on it because we were in a work session,
where voting is not allowed.
Therefore, what I have been asked to do is to email a/l council members and park board members to ask their
opinions on trail priorities.
I've attached a map and corresponding list of trail segments. I'd like each member to give me their top 5
priorities. I've labeled the segments on the map A-Z and have those designations on the list as well. So, as an
example, a response might be:
Councilmember John Doe - Priorities are 1-6, 2-F, 3-G, 4-C, 5-L. They could just list it like this, or they could fill
it in on the sheet provided.
This info will be used to formulate a trail project using the grant funds. At this point, I think it would be best for
members not to worry about what we can afford within the grant funds, but simply to prioritize the trail
segments.
Please remind the members that they should not "Reply to All" and that their responses should simply come
directly to you.
Let me know if you have questions.
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
mark.statz@bonestroo.com
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City Trail Prlorty Worksheet
Map Label Seament Bit./Cone Cost/Ft. Length Total Cost Priority
- Elem. School Ped Bridge ?711 -
- City Hall Ped Bridae 17?? -
- Trail-side Park 17?? -
A Centerville Road (North) Cone. $55 600 $33,000
B Peltier Cone. $55 1300 $71,500
C Peltier Bit. $65 300 $19,500
D Hanzal E-W Bit. $65 800 $52,000
E Mill Road* Bit. $100 2500 $250,000
F Clearwater Creek near Sehc Bit. $65 700 $45,500
G Clearwater Creek near Sehc Bit. $65 500 $32,500
H Goiffon Bit. $65 900 $58,500
I Sorel Bit. $65 1200 $78,000
J Centerville Road (South) Bit. $65 1200 $78,000
K Lamotte Park Bit. $65 1100 $71,500
L City Hall Bit. $65 800 $52,000
M Brian Drive Cone. $55 700 $38.500
N Baekaae Road Bit. $65 1300 $84,500
0 21st Bit. $65 1200 $78,000
P 20th Bit. $65 3800 $247,000
a S. Border Center Oaks Bit. $65 1200 $78,000
R Center Street (East) Cone. $55 900 $49,500
S Center Street (West) Cone. $55 1800 $99,000
T Brian Way Cone. $55 300 $16,500
U Fox Run/MeBride Park Cone. $55 1400 $n,OOO
V Lakeland Circle Bit. $65 1000 $65,000
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Other?
Other?
$1,675,000
*Mill Road Trail Costs are based on an off-street trail with ditch and storm sewer rnodificatoins
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Concrete Walk is assumed to be 6 feet wide
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Statz, Mark R [Mark.Statz@bonestroo.com]
Friday, July 25, 20088:35 AM
Seeley Suzanne
Kim Stephan; Kevin Amundsen; Long, Chris W; McDowell, Jeff J; dlarson@centervillemn.com; Paul
Palzer; Jesse Roush
Subject: RE: Remaining items at HSP
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Suzanne,
See responses below in blue italics.
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
mark.statz@bonestroo.com
.. Bonestroo
2335 Highway 36 W
St. Paul, MN 55113
Tel 651-636-4600
Fax 651-636-1311
www.bonestroo.com
From: Seeley Suzanne [mailto:skseeley@yahoo.com]
sent: Thursday, July 24,2008 10:11 PM
To: Statz, Mark R
Cc: Kim Stephan; Kevin Amundsen; skseeley@yahoo.com
Subject: Remaining items at HSP
Mark,
Kevin and I completed a walk-through of Hidden Spring Park this past Tuesday, July 22nd.
The following items have not yet been completed:
1. There are gouges in the asphalt on the trail east of HSP
2. There are gouges in the asphalt in the LaMotte parking lot.
1 &2 - It was my understanding that the public works department and the contractor had met on site and
agreed upon whether or not this was caused ~ the contractor and whether it was to be repaired. I wil/ jo//ow-
up with Paul and the Contractor to make sure this is the case.
3. The compacted area of the rain garden (west of the street drain spout) has not been
corrected.
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4. There needs to be additional planti.ngs in the rain garden to replace the failed ones.
About 2 weeks ago or so, our landscape architects met with the contractor to review the plantings and other
issues with the rain garden. Yesterdqy, we submitted a revised planting plan to Gregg Thompson for his
review. Once we get comments back from Gregg, we will let you gtgs take a look and then we'll get the
replacements done.
5. The center post on the western-most bench, near the checker board, is too high making
the bench appear bowed.
I'll look at this again. I know thry jixed a few of these benches with the same problem. Perhaps thry missed
this one.
6. The sliding bench on the north needs the slats replaced to match the recycled material of
the rest of the benches.
Several months ago, I sent a jinal email to the supplier of the slats giving them the go-ahead to order the
reryded slats. Earlier this Jveek, I sent another email and lift a voice mail asking where our order was. I
have not yet heard back. I will follow up on this.
7. The replacement planti.ngs on the beach (not the shoreline restoration part) are not in.
W7hen the plantings were reviewed in the rain garden, the rest of the plantings in the park were also reviewed.
We have documented those which need replacement. All replacements (rain garden and others) will be done at
the same time.
8. The drinking fountain is not level. I've asked our inspector to look at this. It was level earlier this
spting when I was at the park. I wzJl get back to you when Jve jigtlre out what happened here.
9. The drinking fountain does not have the lower "dog bowl" spout. I think we opted NOT to
have the dog bowl feature. Perhaps you are rifening to the hose connection at the bottom. I was under the
understanding that we had installed the proper connection and that it was acceptable to the public works
department. I Jvill speak with Paul to make sure what we have is at:eeptable.
10. The sub-contracted shoreline restoration has not begun. It's my understanding that Gregg has
been in touch with the contractor and that supplies have been ordered Thry are also working through the
process to get access from the St. Paul Water Utility site to minimize damage to the park from constmetion. I
believe constmction will begin within a week or two, once supplies have eome in. You could contact Greggfor
more information on the schedule.
All of these items were on our previous list of items that needed to be fInished. With the
exception of the shoreline restoration, I expected these items to be completed earlier this
spnng.
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When will items 1 through 9 be completed?
When will the shoreline restoration start?
~ Suzanne, Park and Rec
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Kim Stephan
From: Wayne LeBlanc (wayneleblanc@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11 :08 AM
To: skseeley@yahoo.com; 'Dan & Mary Capra'; kstephan@centervillemn.com
Subject: Tmdl Meet, July 31, 7pm, Uno Lakes City Hall
Attachments: IMG_7167algae.JPG; image001.jpg
Hello Centerville people,
You might be interested in this Tmdl meeting, Thursday, July 3 J, 7pm, at Lino Lakes city hall. Perhaps you could
inform Park and Rec. I've added some related information below that many may not know. Thanks.
Wayne LeBlanc
wayneleb lanc@comcast.net
1677 Peltier Lake Drive
Centerville, Mn 55038
651-426-0168 home
651-785-3775 cell
Troubled Waters at Peltier Lake
On July 31, at 7pm Lino Lakes City Hall. a meeting will discuss MPCA designated impaired waters including
Peltier lake and other lakes in the Rice Creek "Chain of Lakes."
What are those weeds in Peltier Lake? Why is the lake sometimes so rotten? The frrst thing an aquatic biologist
will say is those are not weeds, those are aquatic plants, specifically, CurlyleafPondweed (Potamogeton crispus),
Eurasian Watermilfoil (Myriophyllum spicatum), Coontail (Ceratophyllum demersum), and others.
The biggest problem appears to be the Curlyleaf. It's an exotic and grows earlier than native species so it
becomes dominant. In late June with warmer water, it dies and releases nutrients into the lake. But before it dies,
it releases millions of seeds called turions that get ready to grow the next year. Another part of the problem may
be what's called internal loading - nutrients in the sediments that get released in various ways.
~'}J'~,;,;~' Algae (image at left) loves the nutrients from the
decomposing Curly leaf and so it blooms in huge
quantities creating scum and smell. The algae blocks
the light and tends to knock back all submerged
aquatic plants, even the milfoil. Aphanizomenon is
one common prolific algae in the lake and looks like
fingernail clippings.
So the south part of Peltier Lake has a vicious cycle
where Curly leaf and algae help each other create an
environment that discourages anything else from
taking hold. A lake should have beneficial aquatic
plants to avoid algae blooms. (That's why the lake
looks so good in the spring.)
Another player in the lake is Eurasian Watermilfoil.
This exotic first appeared in 2000 and has been
expanding its presence in the lake ever since. Every
year it seems to roughly double but the algae in July knocks it back quite a bit. But it is still there hanging on till
next year's clear spring waters. The lake is so bad, not even Eurasian Watermilfoil grows well. The future may
see more Milfoil.
The north part of the lake had mostly native beneficial Coontail acting as a giant nutrient absorbing buffer, but
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after 2001, the Coontail appeared to be damaged and mostly Curlyleaftook over. In the last couple years, the
Coontail seems to be recovering. This year, there's a new phenomenon, Coontail mats are appearing in the south
part of the lake. Established Coontail in south part of the lake might be a good thing.
What might be done about all this? In 1988, I started a Lake Association and we tried to control the Curlyleaf. In
the end, I would say it was unsuccessful. Commercial harvesting was too expensive. We built cutters ourselves
and I personally expended huge efforts to pitch fork cut Curly leaf from the lake. It met some success but the effort
was overwhelming. Homeowners just do not have the equipment or time to deal with the massive Curly leaf
problem. Not removing cut plants spreads Milfoil and does not help the lake. The DNR states, "Vegetation that is
cut or pulled must be immediately and permanently removed from the water and disposed of on high ground
where it will not re-enter the lake." Areas larger than 2,500 square feet require a DNR permit. However, the DNR
also states "A property owner may physically or mechanically clear without a permit: submerged vegetation: An
area for swimming or boat docking not exceeding 2,500 square feet and not extending more than 50 feet or one-
half the length of the owner's shoreline frontage (whichever is less)..."
How about chemicals? Peltier Lake is designated a "Natural Lake" and herbicides are currently not allowed.
Because Peltier Lake is designated an impaired water by the MPCA, a Total Maximum Daily Load study has been
done. This study looks at lake loading of nutrients and makes recommendations. Some ideas are to draw down the
lake to freeze out the bulk ofthe Curlyleaf(I have experience with a 3' drawdown) or to reduce the number of
carp which stir up the bottom releasing nutrients. Or, perhaps the watershed district could figure out the use of
herbicides.
Homeowners can help. Don't mow next to wetlands. Establish buffers or natural vegetation on shorelines to
reduce erosion. Don't fertilize by the lake. See www.BlueThumb.org for more information.
Wayne LeBlanc serves on the Rice Creek Watershed District Advisory Committee, does volunteer lake sampling
for RCWD, MPCA, and the Sentinel Lakes Program, monitors stream health with SHEP, has nearly 30 years
experience with lake issues, helps monitor the Great Blue Herons, and completed the Minnesota Master Naturalist
Volunteer program. See also www.PeltierLake.Org or send email to MonitorPeltier@comcast.net or phone 651-
785-3775.
Wayne LeBlanc, July 2008
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Mayor Mary Capra
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Dear Mayor Mary Capra:
The Minnesota Legislature is asking voters to decide on November 4~ 2008.
whether to amend the Minnesota Constitution to increase funding for clean water,
wildlife. cultural heritage and natural areas. Enclosed are educational materials
for yourself. your neighbors, and your community leaders - such as your city
council, park commission. and planning commission - so that you are all infonned
about this ballot question.
Please let me know if you would like more copies of this educational material or
are interested in inviting a speaker to discuss this issue. This flyer is available
electronically at wW\\'.embraceopcnspace.org, or you can request it bye-mail
through me at Cordelia.picrsonrmtpl.org
Thank you. I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely.
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Program Director
The Trust for Public Land
651-999-5312
Ene: [<:ducation on Clean Water. Wildlife. Cultural Heritage and Natural Areas
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Did you know a constitutional
amendment is on your ballot on
Tuesday, November 4, 2008?
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Kim Stephan
From: Dallas Larson [dlarson@centervillemn.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1 :46 PM
To: Kim Stephan
Subject: FW: Shoreland Project - Hidden Springs Park
For P&R update.
(j)a{fas Larson, }1dmillistrator
City of Centervi{{e
651-429-3232
-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg Thompson [mailto:gregg@metroswcd.org]
Sent: Friday, August 01,2008 1:42 PM
To: dlarson@centervillemn.com
Cc: Langer, Rob
Subject: Re: Shoreland Project - Hidden Springs Park
Dallas,
I spoke with the contractor (Rob Langer of Natural Shore Technologies) today, and received an update on
preparations for the shoreland-repair project.
1. Expected project start date is August 11 th (Monday)
2. Materials delivery date would be sometime next week - possibly August 5th or 6th - for delivery of the gabion
wire-cages and biologs. These materials will be delivered to the park by the materials supplier and placed by
the shoreline. Employees from Natural Shore will be on-site during the delivery.
3. I had met with Mike Knutson (Saint Paul Regional Water Authority) at the site this morning, to go over project
details for access for the contractor through their site. SPRWA will be coordinating directly with the contractor
and will be issuing a permit for access directly to them. SPRWA staff will temporarily remove a portion of their
chain-link fence along the property line for equipment access to the city park site, so that the contractor can
utilize the driveway on the SPRWA property, and reduce impacts to the park from equipment access. Mike of
SPRWA will also provide a gate key to the contractor.
The contractor's contact info is:
Natural Shore Technologies
Rob Langer
612-703-7581
Our contacts at the SPRWA are:
Mike Knutson (On-site details: fence removal, gate key/access)
651-775-6192 (office)
Jerry Straus (Access Permit Coordination)
Jerry .Strauss@ci.stpaul.mn.us
Sound ok? Any questions?
Thanks,
Gregg
8/6/2008
Gregg Thompson
Urban Conservation Specialist
Association of Metropolitan Soil & Water Conservation Districts
(763) 286-6985 (cell)
gregg@metroswcd.org
---- Original Message ----
From: Gregg Thompson
To: Mike Knutson
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 20089:02 PM
Subject: Re: St. Paul Water Property bordering City Park - Centerville
Mike,
Friday at 10am sound good. I'll meet you at the site in Centerville.
Thanks,
Gregg
763-286-6985 - cell
---- Original Message ----
From: Gregg Thompson
To: Mike Knutson
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: St. Paul Water Property bordering City Park - Centerville
Mike,
How about meeting on Friday in the late morning (e.g. 10 or 11am)? Would that work for you?
Thanks,
Gregg
Gregg Thompson
Urban Conservation Specialist
Association of Metropolitan Soil & Water Conservation Districts
(763) 286-6985 (cell)
gregg@metroswcd.org
---- Original Message ----
From: Mike Knutson
To: Gregg Thompson
Sent: Monday. July 28.20088:23 AM
Subject: Re: St. Paul Water Property bordering City Park - Centerville
Gregg,
If you wanted to meet this week Thursday or Friday would work best for me.
Mike Knutson
8/6/2008
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>>> "Gregg Thompson" <gregg@metroswcd.org> 7/25/20082:43 PM >>>
Bill,
I have some information for you, having spoken with the contractor (Rob Langer of Natural Shore
Technologies, Maple Plain, MN)
1. Planned start date is second or third week of August. After work commences, the project should take
about 1-2 weeks.
2. The contractor will add 'The Board of Water Commissioners of the City of Saint Paul' and the 'City of
Saint Paul', and their officials, employees, agents and representatives as additional insureds to their
certificate of insurance.
3. Sounds great that you can utilize your own forces to remove a couple of sections of the chain-link fence,
near the shoreland area.
4. I will call Mike Knutson to setup a pre-construction site meeting.
Sound ok?
Thanks!
Gregg
Gregg Thompson
Urban Conservation Specialist
Association of Metropolitan Soil & Water Conservation Districts
(763) 286-6985 (cell)
gregg@metroswcd.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Tschida
To: Gregg Thompson
Cc: Mike Knutson
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: S1. Paul Water Property bordering City Park - Centerville
Hello, Gregg. Generally, we have no problem with the work and proposed access. I will draft a Rider to
Agreement with the City to address the activity on Board property.
A couple questions and comments:
1. What is your planned start date?
2. The required certificate of insurance must be at least $400,000/$1,200,000 and must name the The
Board of Water Commissioners of the City of Saint Paul (not St. Paul Regional Water Board, as Dallas
stated) and the City of Saint Paul, and their officials, employees, agents and representatives as
additional insureds.
3. We prefer to perform the removal and replacement of fence sections with our own forces.
4. Our field supervisor is Mike Knutson 651-775-6192. A site meeting must be scheduled with Mike
before work can begin.
I'll be out of the office intermittently this week and will try to reach you later today.
8/6/2008
Page 4 of5
>>> "Gregg Thompson" <gregg@metroswcd.org> 7/10/2008 5:43 PM >>>
Bill and Dallas,
Attached is a pdf of photos, plans, cross-sections and examples for the city
parkland shoreland repair site that borders the the St. Paul Board of Water
Commissioners property. Access would be needed along the existing gravel
access road for the contractor's excavator and for soil (for backfilling) to
be brought in. I believe the contractor will be bringing in approximately
30 cubic yards of soil, which would be 2 or 3 tandem truck loads (or 5-6
loads on a smaller single-axle dump truck). Most likely, a 12-16' section
of the chain link fence along the property line between the City Park and
the SPBWC property would need to be temporarily removed, but would be
reinstalled after project completion, which would involve removing some
bolts - the posts / footings would stay in place - only the actual
chain-link and horizontal support pipe would need to be temporarily removed,
in this specific area.
I have emailed the contractor to let them know that they are being required
to provide a certificate of insurance.
The shoreland toe-stabilization project would take place completely on City
Park property, from the southern lot line to the northern lot line.
Sound ok? Any questions / concerns?
Thanks,
Gregg
Gregg Thompson
Urban Conservation Specialist
Association of Metropolitan Soil & Water Conservation Districts
(763) 286-6985 (cell)
gregg@metroswcd.org
----- Original Message ----
From: "Dallas Larson" <dlarson@centervillemn.com>
To: "Gregg Thompson" <gregg@metroswcd.org>
Cc: "Bill Tschida" <bill.tschida@cLstpaul.mn.us>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: St. Paul Water Property
Gregg,
I talked to Bill Tschida of St. Paul Regional Water about getting access
across their property to repair the shoreline. He doesn't expect it will be
a problem. One thing that he noted is that they will require a certificate
of insurance from the contractor naming St. Paul Regional Water Board and
City of St. Paul as additional insureds. Bill would like a plan of the
work. He is busy or out the rest of the week but will be available to
discuss it next Monday. His contact information is below. If you could share
a plan with him, I will work with him on the access agreement.
8/6/2008
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Dallas Larson, Administrator
City of Centerville
651-429-3232
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Kim Stephan
From: Statz, Mark R [Mark.Statz@bonestroo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06,200810:29 AM
To: kstephan@centervillemn.com
Cc: dlarson@centervillemn.com
Subject: Parks and Rec Update
Attachments: Hidden Spring Park (3.26 MB); Sc450t-2eas08072413070.pdt; Centerville Bench (25.3 KB);
Trail Priorities. xis; Trail at edge ot ROW.pdt; Trail Adjacent with Curb. pdt
Kim,
Sorry for the informal nature of my update, but I wanted to get this to you while I had some time. Hopefully,
you can email this to the P&R committee and City Council as well as make copies for tonight's meeting in case
some folks aren't able to check their email before tonight's meeting.
tliddelLSpJ"ing Park
Damage to bituminous trail and parking lot. - Contractor is scheduled to repair damage next week.
Rain Garden plantings and compacted areas. - Gregg Thompson has reviewed our revised planting plan (see
attached planting plan from us and email response from Gregg). The Parks Board should give us their direction
as to what mix of plants to put in the rain garden. We are comfortable doing either our plan or modifying it to
add more of Gregg's suggestions. Once we get this direction, we will coordinate the plant replacements and
correction of the compacted area immediately.
Bowed bench. - The contractor will fix this item when he comes out to repair the blacktop and fountain.
Glider Bench Slats - I was finally able to make contact with the supplier. Apparently, he has had some email
problems and did not get our order confirmation (see attached email). We worked out the order over the phone
and the replacement slats should be shipped shortly.
Replacement plantings on the beach. - These will be completed at the same time as the rain garden plantings.
Drinking Fountain - The contractor is working with the public works department to resolve these issues. We
expect them to be corrected next week.
Overall. - I visited the park a few days ago and was impressed by the growth of the plantings along both streams
and on the upper part of the shoreline. Things are really filling in looking like a mature park. I'm hopeful that
once we get the replacement plantings in and the shoreline restored, you can once again, be proud of your park.
TraiLG_(aD~
I've attached a summary of the results of our trail priority survey. We will be discussing these results among
staff and will develop a project outline based on these results for the Parks Board to review, perhaps at their next
meeting.
The mayor asked me to clear up some misconceptions about the Mill Road trail. I've attached some renderings
we completed several months ago. The following is an explanation of those options:
There were 4 options:
1. Trail Adjacent to Road with curb
2. Trail off road at edge of right-of-way with ditch between road and trail
3. Trail Adjacent to Road without curb
4. Trail off road, with curb and 5 foot grass boulevard and ditch on the east side of the trail
8/6/2008
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In previous workshops we had pretty well eliminated options 3 and 4. That leaves us with 1 & 2. The issues
with each are as follows:
1. Trail Adjacent to Road with Curb - This would require that the pavement on the road be replaced.
The existing pavement does not have enough grade (north to south) to allow curb to be placed along
side it with out significant changes to the grade (meaning we'd need to replace the pavement). This
option is less intrusive to people's yards, allows for better storm water management because there is
more room for ditches and may allow city plow trucks to clear it in the winter.
2. Trail off road at edge of right-of-way with ditch between road and trail- This option does not
require any street work to be done now or in the future. You'll notice that our rendering says that
with this option, the road would need to be shifted 4 feet to the west, but I think with some creative
ditch and storm sewer work we could avoid this and simply put the trail in the boulevard without
touching the road. This option will feel quite a bit more intrusive to people, as the trail will be in
what they probably view as their "front yard". It will also require more ditch and storm sewer
modifications as the distance between the edge of road and trail will make for a narrow ditch.
We are comfortable with either option since they both offer a safe alternative for pedestrians and bicyclists.
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
ma rk.statz@bonestroo.com
.t~ Bonestroo
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St. Paul, MN 55113
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Kim Stephan
From: Gregg Thompson [gregg@metroswcd.org]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:45 PM
To: Statz, Mark R
Cc: McDowell, Jeff J
Subject: Re: Hidden Spring Park
Attachments: P6040111.JPG; P6040108.JPG; P6040109.JPG
Mark,
I would consider adding in many, many more sedges and iris, because of:
- their proven performance in this specific raingarden's hydrology
_ they are cool-season and thusly will show up early in the spring - warm-season plants, which can be very useful
and beautiful, when delayed by cool-soils, can cause some of the general public some concern that 'the plants
are dead').
I'm attaching photos of a raingarden from Minnetonka's City Hall that consists of mass plantings of Fox Sedge at
the groundlayer within the raingarden basin (and clusters of red osier dogwood, and periodic tamarack and river
birch), surrounded at the edges with Dwarf Bush Honeysuckle. Its sort of from the 'less is more' school. Its also
easier to determine what needs to be weeded out of the planting - less plant diversity = easier to distinguish what
doesn't belong for a person who isn't an expert on native plants.
Something to consider for the replanting at the raingarden at Hidden Springs Park.
Thanks,
Gregg
Gregg Thompson
Urban Conservation Specialist
Association of Metropolitan Soil & Water Conservation Districts
(763) 286-6985 (cell)
gregg@metroswcd.org
-- Original Message --
From: Statz, Mark R
To: gregg@metroswcd.org
Cc: McDowell, Jeff J
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 20082:20 PM
Subject: Hidden Spring Park
Gregg,
Attached is a revised planting plan for the Rain Garden in HSP. Please review and give your comments.
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
ma rk. statz@bonestroo.com
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Parks and Trails Comprehensive Planning
Trail Priority Based on the Number of Total Votes
616-08165-0
Map Label Ranking Segment Bit.ICone Costl Ft. Length Total Cost Running Cost
- Elem. School Ped Bridge ????
- City Hall Ped Bridge ~-* ????
- Trail-side Park ????
E 25 Mill Road* Bit. $100 2500 $250,000 $250,000
H 13 Goiffon Bit. $65 900 $58,500 $308,500
P 11 20th Bit. $65 3800 $247,000 $555,500
Q 10 S. Border Center Oaks Bit. $65 1200 $78,000 $633,500
L 6 City Hall Bit. $65 800 $52,000 $685,500
B 4 Peltier Cone. :+ $55 1300 $71,500 $757,000
K 3 Lamotte Park Bit. $65 1100 $71,500 $828,500
F 3 Clearwater Creek near School Bit. $65 700 $45,500 $874,000
A 3 Centerville Road (North) Cone. A- $55 600 $33,000 $907,000
I 2 Sorel Bit. $65 1200 $78,000 $985,000
V 2 Lakeland Circle Bit. $65 1000 $65,000 $1,050,000
G 2 Clearwater Creek near School Bit. $65 500 $32,500 $1,082,500
J 1 Centerville Road (South) Bit. $65 1200 $78,000 $1,160,500
S 0 Center Street (West) Cone. $55 1800 $99,000 $1,259,500
N 0 Backage Road Bit. $65 1300 $84,500 $1,344,000
0 0 21st Bit. $65 1200 $78,000 $1,422,000
U 0 Fox Run/McBride Park Cone. $55 1400 $77,000 $1,499,000
D 0 Hanzal E-W Bit. $65 800 $52,000 $1,551,000
R 0 Center Street (East) Cone. $55 900 $49,500 $1,600,500
M 0 Brian Drive Cone. $55 700 $38,500 $1,639,000
C 0 Peltier Bit. $65 300 $19,500 $1,658,500
T 0 Brian Way Cone. $55 300 $16,500 $1,675,000
$1,675,000
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Kim Stephan
From: Jeff Ringsred Oringsred@efa-mn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06,20089:52 AM
To: Statz, Mark R
Subject: RE: Centerville Bench
Thanks Mark,
Sorry about the e-mail snafu. I have ordered the equipment. I used your name as a PO number. I have asked the
factory to expedite if possible. I will try told hold the costing (material & freight) the same as it was in April,
however there may be a slight increase. I will let you know when I get the ship date. Please contact me with any
questions.
Thank you,
Jeff Ringsred
EFA
952-884-7300
From: Statz, Mark R [mailto:Mark.Statz@bonestroo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06,20089:16 AM
To: Jeff Ringsred
Subject: FW: Centerville Bench
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
ma rk.statz@bonestroo.com
~t Bonestroo
2335 Highway 36 W
St. Paul, MN 55113
Tel 651-636-4600
Fax 651-636-1311
www.bonestroo.com
From: Statz, Mark R
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:44 AM
To: 'Jeffrey-Ringsred.EFA@efa-mn.com'
Subject: FW: Centerville Bench
Jeff,
What ever happened to our order?
From: Statz, Mark R
8/6/2008
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Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:50 PM
To: 'Jeffrey-Ringsred.EFA@efa-mn.com'
Cc: 'dlarson@centervillemn.com'
Subject: Centerville Bench
Jeff,
Please go ahead with the order for the replacement slats and hardware for the glider bench in
Centerville as quoted. Again, please bill the City of Centerville. We will work out a credit to them.
Just let us know when you expect delivery or if you need anything else.
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
mark.statz@bonestroo.com
.t~ Bonestroo
2335 Highway 36 W
St. Paul, MN 55113
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Kim Stephan
From: Statz, Mark R [Mark.Statz@bonestroo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06,20081:10 PM
To: kstephan@centervillemn.com
Cc: dlarson@centervillemn.com; McDowell, Jeff J
Subject: Parks Committee
Kim,
Our landscape architect, Jeff McDowell, is going to try to make your parks board meeting tonight to make sure
everyone's on the same page with regard to the replacement plantings in the rain garden. He should only need a
few minutes on the agenda to go through his planting plan and Gregg's review comments.
Thanks,
Mark Statz, PE
Associate
Tel 651-604-4709
Cell 651-775-5126
ma rk. statz@bonestroo.com
.t~ Bonestroo
2335 Highway 36 W
St. Paul, MN 55113
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