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Parks & Recreation Committee
Meeting Minutes 10-01-08
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 - 6:00 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Parks & Recreation Committee of the City of Centerville held the
regularly scheduled Wednesday, October 1, 2008 meeting at City Hall, 1880 Main Street.
Present:
Chairperson Suzanne Seeley
Vice-Chairperson Kevin Amundsen
Committee Member Kevin Selander
Committee Member Savannah Lee
Absent:
Committee Member Mark Haiden
Committee Member Patrick Branch
Committee Member Lori Harris
Council:
Council Liaison Tom Lee
Staff:
Staff Liaison Kim Stephan
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I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Roll Call
Chairperson Seeley called the October 1, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting to order at 6:40
p.m.
II. SET AGENDA
Chairperson Seeley requested adding Officer Andy Dixon under Appearances to discuss park issues. Also
requested was the addition of Centennial Youth Hockey Association’s request to use the Laurie LaMotte
Memorial Park facilities for the 2008-2009 hockey season under Committee Business.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Selander to set
the agenda with the above additions. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
III. APPEARANCES
Office Andy Dixon, Eagle Park Problems
Officer Andy Dixon made an appearance to discuss lighting at the parks, as well as recent problems
reported at Eagle Park.
Ms. Stephan informed the committee that there had been multiple complaints from residents regarding
teenagers at Eagle Park; loud, swearing, being hard on the equipment meant for smaller children
and intimidating younger kids. Ms. Stephan recommended the residents call the police when they see this
happening, but they seemed hesitant, one said they didn't want the teenagers retaliating. The Parks &
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Recreation Committee did do a spring clean up of this park and found drug paraphernalia, empty bottles
and hundreds of cigarette butts in a secluded clearing in the dense pine trees. Vice-Chairperson
Amundsen trimmed up the trees so there would be a better view of what was going on, as well as making
users of the trail feel a little safer. The resident’s complaints also included the park is too dark and the
tennis court too isolated and completely surrounded by trees. The residents are asking for a more frequent
police presence at this park and are asking Parks & Recreation and Public Works to consider removing
some of the trees. Mayor Capra also had met with residents and received emails from other residents with
these same concerns.
Chairperson Seeley asked Officer Dixon for input regarding additional lighting at Tracie McBride
Memorial Park and Eagle Park, does it help to have additional lights or does it encourage use after dark.
Officer Dixon prefaced his answer with another officer, who regularly works evenings in Centerville, was
supposed to come to the meeting instead of him and Officer Dixon did not regularly work evenings in
Centerville. But, he stated he could never say more lights are a bad thing, though cost is certainly a
consideration. Officer Dixon asked what the committee would like to see from the Police Department
regarding the complaints at Eagle Park. Council Member Lee said they would like stepped up patrol at
Eagle Park and when officers do make contact with the teenagers, make a point of letting the teenagers
know why you are there, bring the teenagers home and talk to the parents. Perhaps have officers walk the
trail at night. Officer Dixon stated the teenagers would be brought home if there were doing anything
wrong and citizens should call the police.
City Council is already looking at the light issue for Tracie McBride Memorial Park. Officer Dixon has
information regarding park lighting he will get to Ms. Stephan before the next committee meeting and he
will talk to Chief Makela about stepping up patrolling around Eagle Park.
Park Signage
The committee discussed why park signs stating the rules have not been put in place as this was something
that went to City Council in early spring. If would be much easier for the officers to enforce the rules,
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such as hours, if they were posted. The ommittee then also questioned why the signs requested in 2007
and again in the spring of 2008 have never been put up in Hidden Spring Park? There were also supposed
to be 'No Trespassing' signs on the north and south borders of Hidden Spring abutting the St. Paul Water
Utility property and the property owner to the south. Vice-Chairperson Amundsen asked why the entry
signs into Centerville have not been replaced, he came across a discussion in his notes the committee had
in 2005 regarding this issue and they have still not been replaced. The recycling and no parking signs are
so faded they can barely be read. Ms. Stephan will forward questions to Public Works.
IV. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
September 3, 2008 Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes
The first paragraph under Committee Business regarding additional lighting states ‘committee members
individually toured all the parks.’ Chairperson Seeley requested that be modified to ‘individually toured
the parks’, as each member did not go to each park. Also in the same paragraph change ‘Tracie McBride
Memorial Park is the only park without a street light in the immediate vicinity’ to ‘Tracie McBride
Memorial Park and Eagle Park are the only parks without a street light in the immediate vicinity of the
entrance.’ Vice-Chairperson requested changing the sentence under Fete des Lacs 8K Run from
‘discussion was had regarding planning of this event’ to ‘discussion was had regarding the design and ad
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deadlines for this event.’
Motion was made by Chairperson Seeley, seconded by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, to approve the
September 3, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes with the above corrections. All
in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
YMCA/Wargo Programs
At the September meeting the committee made a motion to request Council consider funding an additional
$693 to the YMCA for costs incurred with the 2008 Park Play Days. At the February 2008 Parks &
Recreation meeting the committee made a motion to recommend that City Council authorize up to $1000
to support the youth activities of the YMCA and Wargo Nature Center for the 2008 Park Play Days at
Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park. The February motion was approved by City Council for $1,000. Council
was not willing however, to approve the additional $693.
Chairperson Seeley requested the committee consider asking City Council again to support the additional
$693, as she did not want the YMCA to operate in Centerville at a loss or not be willing to continue with
the Park Play Days in the future for lack of funding from the City. The committee discussed the financial
support of the program over the last few years which began with $300 the first year and in 2007 the City
contributed $750. The majority of the committee felt $1,000 was more than adequate to subsidize a
program in Centerville. It was originally stated the YMCA would keep the committee informed if there
were low registration numbers for the program and the committee would review the proposal. The
YMCA did not come back to the committee requesting more funding until the program was over. The
skate park portion was cancelled due to low registration. The committee feels comfortable with funding
the $1,000 portion which was invoiced to the City following the council meeting and has been paid.
Ms. Liz Guimont from the YMCA asked via email whether the committee was interested in the program
next summer as they were currently putting together their program guide. The committee is certainly
interested. Ms. Stephan will pass that on to Ms. Guimont.
Chem-Lawn / Tru-Green
In response to the discussion at the last committee meeting regarding the City employing Chem Lawn and
the possibility of phosphorus being put on the City’s parks, Mr. Palzer contacted the company
representative at Tru-Green, which is actually the company the City uses, not Chem-Lawn. The
representative said that Tru-Green only uses phosphorus in their lawn starter and not in any of the
applications they applied in Centerville this year. The committee was satisfied that there is no need to
change companies or do further research if the company the City uses is not using phosphorus.
VI. UPDATES
Tracie McBride Memorial Park Renovations
Additional Lighting Request at Tracie McBride Memorial Park
This item was discussed under appearances and will be included on the next Parks & Recreation
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Committee Meeting Agenda.
Message Board at Tracie McBride Memorial Park
The committee asked at the last meeting when would the message board be installed in place of the faux
window. Mr. Palzer had said there was a message board available at City Hall which could be installed at
Tracie McBride Memorial Park, but he was mistaken, there is not a board available. Ms. Stephan informed
the committee that if this is something the committee would still like to do they would need a motion to
have staff purchase one. Also to please consider who would be keeping this board updated and what type
of information would be posted. No action was taken at this time.
Ms. Stephan also asked the committee to consider who would be responsible for an additional flowerbed
installed around the Tracie McBride Memorial Park building as discussed at the last committee meeting.
We have one resident volunteer who has adopted the flowerbed at this park, the rest of the parks (5) are
being done by staff, as time permits. Another flowerbed would probably not fit into staff time.
Dead Broke Saddle Club/Climbing Wall
The Dead Broke Saddle Club met Tuesday, September 23, 2008 and discussed the donation to Parks &
Recreation for the climbing wall and has donated $6,000 for this purpose. This information will be passed
on to Public Works and Mr. Larson to order the equipment.
Hidden Spring Park
Ms. Stephan passed on the following update submitted by Mark Statz, City Engineer, via email 09-02-08
from Veit, the Hidden Spring contractor.
Veit has replaced the hose-bib connection on the fountain again. We also straighten the fountain and
talking with the fountain supplier they recommend a concrete pad poured around to help stabilize. If you
want us to provide one please send a design.
Regarding the damage to some asphalt areas, Veit is not responsible for these damages. We were
substantially complete prior to Centerville’s Centennial celebration in the park and the damage was
discovered after that. There were numerous trailers and heavy activities during that festival. The damage
occurred during that time frame, not during construction.
Once the raingarden plant replacement is finished, Veit will consider this project 100% complete and no
other punch list items remaining. We will request full retainage released at that time. Thank you and if
you have any questions let me know. Jesse Roush, Project Manager/Estimator
Ms. Stephan discussed this with Mr. Tedd Peterson, Public Works who was adamant the damage was done
by Veit and has nothing to do with the 'Centennial Celebration' and pointed this out to the contractor at the
site as it was done. He also pointed it out to Bonestroo, multiple times. This information was forwarded
again to Bonestroo and Veit then responded with Quality Restoration was out to fix the black top. Mr.
Peterson has also asked that the Comcast cable hanging from the post at Hidden Spring Park be buried as
it has been cut multiple times, not to mention it looks bad and is a Safety hazard. He has talked to
Comcast and to Chris Long at Bonestroo and it is still not buried. Ms. Stephan passed this information on
to Bonestroo, the Public Works Director and City Administrator.
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Fete des Lacs 2009 Centerville Lake Walk/Run
In the packet was a copy of the Special Use Permit Request Form used by Anoka County Parks and filled
out by Committee Member Branch. Ms. Stephan emailed this application to jeff.perry@co.anoka.mn.us
and asked him how to proceed. He reviewed the application and gave preliminary approval. Closer to the
actual race they will need insurance information and the $25 fee. Also included was a map which needs to
have the specific spots marked for things such as start, finish, water stations and first aid. The City’s
insurance representative had said adding the binder listing Anoka County is not a problem for the event,
but it is not something that can be provided now.
Committee Member Branch was unable to attend this meeting but the committee did discuss various
routes and the problem with the first choice of the race going down Mill Road, Peltier Lake Drive and
Main Street around Centerville Lake and ending at Laurie LaMotte memorial Park is the 2009 Street
Project affecting Mill Road and Peltier Lake Drive. The goal is to make it an 8K and ending in the park
where all the fete des Lacs activities are held. The route is yet to be determined, but will again be
discussed at the next scheduled committee meeting
Drinking Fountain at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park
The committee was under the impression that a drinking fountain for Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park was
to be installed and had questioned why it had not been. Ms. Stephan went back to Parks & Recreation
Committee Meeting Minutes in late 2006 when pavilions were first being discussed for Laurie LaMotte
Memorial Park, all the way through current and there was not a motion made or requests for information
concerning costs associated with a drinking fountain at this park by the committee. It was just discussed a
few times vaguely. At this time the committee would like to move forward with researching costs and a
precise location of where a drinking fountain would work in this park.
Motion was made by Committee Member Selander, seconded by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen to
request the Public Workers Director provide the committee with a cost estimate for a drinking
fountain at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park, as well as a precise location the fountain could be
installed and a timeline of installation. The committee would like a spigot with spring loaded push
button automatic type shutoff with an under access door to unscrew for maintenance. All in favor.
Motion carried unanimously.
In discussing removing trees at Eagle Park is was suggested by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen that the
committee should discuss ways to enlighten residents about the perils of buckthorn as it is in all of our
parks, is very invasive and should be removed. The roots put out a toxic substance that will kill other
trees. The berries are eaten by birds and widely spread by bird droppings. The berries are black and are
abundant right now and the plant stays green into November. Buckthorn is not native. It was suggested
information be included in utility bills as how it can be eradicated. There is also abundant poison ivy in
Eagle Park that needs to be removed. The committee would like to meet at the Eagle Park to determine
which trees to remove and perhaps do the work as a committee. This will be discussed at the next
committee meeting. The goal would be to open up the park.
Centennial Youth Hockey Association - Use of Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park 2008-2009 Season
Included in the packet was arequest from the Centennial Youth Hockey Association for the use of Laurie
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LaMotte Memorial Park Hockey Rink for the 2008-2009 season. Mr. Tedd Peterson, Public Works to
reviewed the request to see if there were any problems. He requested a few specific items from CYHA;
do not use chalk or paint on the cement, use cones instead and they will need to go through the player gate
opposed to the service gate as the service gate keeps getting vandalized and is currently locked.
The Parks & Recreation Committee made the following recommendations at the October 1, 2008
committee meeting.
Centennial Youth Hockey Association - Use of Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park Hockey Rink for
Dry Land Practice 2008-2009 Season
The Parks & Recreation Committee discussed the use of the facilities for dry land practice and agreed to
the usage with the following conditions:
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A schedule of usage, as well as a contact list of coaches responsible during the time it is being used will
be provided by the association.
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There will be no use of the facilities after 9 p.m. daily.
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The nets will be padlocked when not in use. The key to the lights and padlock will be supplied in a lock
box by Public Works.
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The Centennial Youth Hockey Association will sign a waiver releasing the City of Centerville from any
liability and will take responsibility for any damage occurring while the association is using the facilities.
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There will be no use of chalk or paint on the concrete surface of the rink.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Selander to
recommend to City Council approving the Centennial Youth Hockey Association’s use of dry land
time with the use of the park lights at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park for the 2008-2009 season with
the above conditions. All in Favor: Motion passed unanimously.
Centennial Youth Hockey Association - Use of Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park Hockey Rink for the
2008-2009 Season
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Selander to
recommend to City Council approving the Centennial Youth Hockey Association’s use of the hockey
rink for the 2008-2009 season with a dedicated half sheet of ice from 7:00 – 8:00 p.m. and a
dedicated full sheet of ice from 8:00 - 9:00 p.m. Monday through Thursday. All in Favor: Motion
passed unanimously.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made by Committee Member Lee, seconded by Committee Member Selander to
adjourn the October 1, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting at 8:25 p.m. All in favor.
Motion passed unanimously.
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