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Parks & Recreation Committee
Meeting Minutes 11-05-08
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 - 6:00 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Parks & Recreation Committee of the City of Centerville held the
regularly scheduled Wednesday, November 5, 2008 meeting at City Hall, 1880 Main Street.
Present:
Chairperson Suzanne Seeley
Vice-Chairperson Kevin Amundsen
Committee Member Kevin Selander
Committee Member Savannah Lee
Committee Member Mark Haiden
Absent:
Committee Member Patrick Branch
Committee Member Lori Harris
Council:
Council Liaison Tom Lee
Staff:
Staff Liaison Kim Stephan
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I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Roll Call
Chairperson Seeley called the November 5, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting to order at 6:45
p.m.
II. SET AGENDA
Chairperson Seeley requested adding Mr. Mark Statz, City Engineer under Appearances to discuss having
a walk through final for Hidden Spring Park for the purpose of issuing Veit Company their final payment.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Haiden to set
the agenda with the above addition. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
III. APPEARANCES
Mr. Mark Statz, City Engineer, made an appearance to discuss a final walk through at Hidden Spring
Park. The committee members have all walked through the park individually. Mr. Statz and committee
members went through each item on the most recent punch list. The walk through was specifically to
sign off on Veit Company’s work so a final payment can be made.
One concern discussed was the standing water in the east end of the rain garden. Mr. Statz said that this
is not actually part of the rain garden, but a requirement from Rice Creek Watershed District to have a
catch basin for large sediment. It would be futile to dig it out as the sediment would be back next year.
Eventually it will fill with sediment and the standing water would not be there, but it should be drudged
every few years. Its purpose is to be an infiltration basin for pre-treatment of run off before it gets to the
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rain garden and in Mr. Statz’s opinion it is the way it was designed to be. He also stated that while the
rocks holding the water in could be separated some to drain water into the main rain garden, it would
defeat the purpose of the sediment basin.
There was a problem getting a hose inside the drinking fountain spigot cabinet, but Veit Company
corrected the problem with different couplings.
The gouges in the trail have been fixed by Veit Company, the compaction has been tested and adjusted in
the rain garden, and the plants have been replaced in the rain garden and on the shoreline. Though some
of the replacement plantings on the beach got trampled by the shoreline restoration work, they should
come back in the spring. All plantings on the entire park project, including the rain garden and shoreline
restoration, have a 1 year warranty from approximately August 2008. This does not include the plantings
by Natural Shore Technology.
There is still a problem with the slats on the sliding bench, which Mr. Statz and Bonestroo are taking
complete responsibility for. The recycled slats have been ordered for the second time; the first shipment
was received damaged and will be installed when received. The snow fence was discussed. It was
originally intended to stay in place for 3 years, but has taken quite a beating from the winds and waves.
The question was should it be removed, replaced or maintained? It was decided it should stay in place
for at least the winter, though with the lake shore restoration completed, the snow fence may no longer be
needed. The committee would like it to stay in place also to deter snowmobiles from entering the park
from the lake. Mr. Statz will have the snow fence shored up for the winter by Bonestroo.
Mr. Statz stated he has not submitted an invoice for his portion of this project and won’t until the
outstanding Bonestroo issues are resolved.
Motion was made by Chairperson Seeley, seconded by Committee Member Selander to
recommend City Council authorize final payment to Veit Company for construction completed at
Hidden Spring Park. The remaining issues will be resolved by Bonestroo, as they were not part of
Veit Company’s contract. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
IV. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
October 1, 2008 Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes
Chairperson Seeley requested changing the following sentence on page 2 from ‘Officer Dixon has
information regarding park lighting he will get to Ms. Stephan before the next committee meeting and he
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will talk to Chief Makela about stepping patrolling around Eagle Park.’ to ‘Officer Dixon has
information regarding park lighting he will get to Ms. Stephan before the next committee meeting and he
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will talk to Chief Makela about stepping patrolling around Eagle Park.’ Also requested by
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Chairperson Seeley, in the 4 paragraph, page 4; correct the spelling of Veit Company. Vice-Chairperson
easier
Amundsen requested changing the sentence ‘The berries are eaten by birds and spread by bird
widely
droppings.’ on page 5, last paragraph to ‘The berries are eaten by birds and spread by bird
droppings.’
Motion was made by Chairperson Seeley, seconded by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, to approve the
October 1, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes with the above corrections. All in
favor. Motion carried unanimously.
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V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
VI. UPDATES
Additional Lighting at Tracie McBride Memorial & Eagle Parks
The following email is from Officer Andrew Dixon regarding supplying the committee with more
information about lighting at the parks:
I had planned on attending the meeting last I understood, however my schedule has been moved and I am
no longer working the day of the November meeting. I will have a CSO deliver some information to you
promptly and I appreciate the reminder. Andy Dixon
Included in the packet was information from Officer Dixon.
The committee discussed the material and agreed that the biggest point made was lighting without
observation was of no benefit at all. Chairperson Seeley said that the information talked about how to
deter the criminal element such as; assaults, robbery, inner city types of crime, and we really don’t have
that here, we have vandalism. Committee Member Selander stated the information basically said parks
and equipment need to be placed where there are more homes in easier view of people. If teenagers are
doing drugs in the seclusion of the trees in the park more lighting will not necessarily change this. It was
suggested the committee take a step back and see what exactly the ultimate goal is, such as are we trying
to make secluded areas less secluded by removing trees or better light the secluded areas? The committee
formed a subcommittee of Vice Chairperson Amundsen, Committee Member Selander and Committee
Member Haiden to meet at Eagle Park to discuss tree and brush removal and formulate a plan before the
December meeting.
It was suggested by the committee that we put information regarding eliminating buckthorn in our City
Newsletter that is distributed with utility bills quarterly. City Administrator Larson said this is fine, the
committee just needs to put something together. The parks will be sprayed for poison ivy in the spring per
Public Works.
Park Signage (hours, park rules, no trespassing, no fishing, etc.)
Ms. Stephan reported that in discussing signs in the parks with Public Works that there had not been
specific direction given as to what signs were being requested for where and what the specific wording
was on the Park Rules. City Administrator requested the committee type the specifics for each park and
Mr. Paul Palzer, Public Works Director will ensure signs are ordered and put up in the spring. No
Trespassing Signs have been placed on the north and south property lines of Hidden Spring Park. Park
hours have been posted at each park.
City Administrator Larson also requested passing on to the committee that the City entry signs are being
replaced by Anoka County and should be up soon. They confirmed that the County sign shop is making
them up. The City will order the recycling, no parking, building permits required, etc. portion to be
installed on the new posts.
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Some additional research will have to be done as far as what exactly the Park Rules signs were supposed
to say. This item will be readdressed at the next committee meeting.
Problems at Eagle Park (teenagers, neighborhood complaints)
This item was discussed under Lighting.
Hidden Spring Park
This item was discussed under Appearances.
Fete des Lacs 2009 Centerville Lake Walk/Run
Committee Member Branch was unable to attend the meeting, but sent an update on the Festival of
the Lakes 8K with the progress made during October in the following email:
The race is registered on two running sites. Midwest Events and “NeedtoRun.com” (MDRA).
A half page ad has been sent into the Minnesota Distance Running Association for publication in their
2009 calendar. Our run will be included on the calendar, as well as the appearances of our advertisement.
I have asked Ms. Barb Leininger to measure our course and obtain a USATF certification. She will send
us a proposal. She will wait until spring to measure the course.
Council Member Lee, Vice-Chairperson Amundsen and I have coordinated on a proposed route. I request
the committee review and approve this route.
There was a question about the website discussion we had at our September meeting. What is needed is a
page on the City’s website. When people see our ads or announcement in one of the free on-line pages,
they will want to link to the official website for this run. That site should be a page attached to the City’s
website.
We also need to make some posters and handouts we can post around town or pass out at runs earlier in
the year. I will send Committee member Lee and Vice-Chairperson Amundsen some examples.
It is not too early to start thinking about sponsors. I would appreciate haring your ideas on what firms
would make good sponsors.
The Citizen has agreed to publish a save the date item for the race. The text I sent to The Citizen is as
follows:
Save the Date August 8, 2009 - Festival of the Lakes 8K Run/Walk
The City of Centerville Parks and Recreation Committee is planning the First Annual 8 Kilometer Run or
Walk around Centerville Lake August 8, 2009. Fete des Lacs (Festival of the Lakes) is an annual
Centerville event held the first full weekend of August. This run or walk will be one of several activities
held in conjunction with Fete des Lacs. The run takes you through Centerville neighborhoods and the
beautiful Rice Creek Regional Park.
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Runners and walkers of all ability levels are invited. The run and walk begin at 8:00 AM; stay for the city
parade starting at 10:00. Participants will receive an inaugural T-shirt and water bottle. Come out and
establish the course record for you age group. Awards will be given to the top three male and top three
female runners and to the fastest runner in each age group
If you are interested in becoming an event sponsor or in helping as a volunteer contact Pat Branch, Race
Director, by e-mail pbranch@cox.net.
Drinking Fountain at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park
Included in your packet is a cost estimate from Mr. Paul Palzer regarding a drinking fountain being
installed at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park.
Mr. Tedd Peterson, Public Works asked me to have the committee also consider a few things concerning
drinking fountains at the parks, he said they are a nightmare from Public Works standpoint and he would
like the committee to reconsider putting yet another one in Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park. He would
also like the committee to reconsider the spigot idea. While both of these are nice amenities for nice
people, there are not so nice people who are causing problems with the already existing drinking
fountains. They are being damaged and vandalized, the fountain at Tracie McBride Memorial Park was
jimmied and left on (which he says will happen to the spigots regardless of the spring loaded shut off) they
are finding garbage, dirt, rocks, gum, etc. in them on a daily basis. It has not been a good experience at
this point and Mr. Peterson said people who use the ball fields bring their own water.
The committee discussed the concerns of Public Works and different options possible for a drinking
fountain at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park. The committee will do more research and take a step back to
look at the bigger picture of vandalism opposed to not having a water fountain available to residents.
While addressing the concerns of Public Works the committee does not want to set a precedent of NOT
doing something because of vandals.
Climbing Wall – Tracie McBride Memorial Park
Per Mr. Paul Palzer, Public Workers Director, the climbing wall will be delivered in the next few weeks
and may be installed yet this season depending on weather.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made by Chairperson Seeley, seconded by Committee Member Selander to adjourn the
November 5, 2008 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting at 8:30 p.m. All in favor. Motion
passed unanimously.
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