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Meeting Minutes 04-01-09
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April I, 2009 - 6:30 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Parks & Recreation Committee of the City of Centerville held the
regularly scheduled meeting Wednesday, April 1, 2009 at City Hall, 1880 Main Street.
Present:
Chairperson Suzanne Seeley
Vice-Chairperson Kevin Amundsen
Committee Member Savannah Lee
Committee Member Mark Haiden
Committee Member Patrick Branch
Committee Member Kevin Selander
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Absent:
None
Council:
Council Liaison Tom Lee
Staff:
Staff Liaison Kim Stephan
Mr. Paul Palzer, Public Works Director
Mr. Mark Statz, City Engineer
Mr. GeoffMartin, Bonestroo Landscape Architect
I. CALL TO ORDER
I. Roll Call
Chairperson Seeley called the April 1, 2009 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting to order at 6:35
p.m.
II. SET AGENDA
Chairperson Seeley requested the addition of Centennial Soccer Club's request to use the soccer fields
at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park as #5 Committee Business.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Haiden to
set the agenda with the above addition. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
III. APPEARANCES
Ms. Kathi LaValle. Bradv's Bie: Band for Centerville Music in the Park
Ms. Kathi LaValle and Mr. Dean LaValle, Brady's Big Band, made an appearance to discuss the
possibility of Brady's Big Band playing for the Committee's Music in the Park Program this summer.
The committee had previously discussed this idea and Chairperson Seeley had listened to their music,
but felt the fee was too high for the budget the committee was trying to work within. Ms. LaValle
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explained the pricing received for the Big Band was a bit high, saying that while they often get higher
fees for some of the bigger park events or parties, they offer a reduced rate to City park events and
Senior Center picnics as a community service. The La Valles are Centerville residents and the members
are all from the local area and Ms. LaValle said to play in our own backyard (Centerville) would be an
honor and they would play for any amount that the committee has in their budget. She asked the
committee to please consider their band for a rate of $300, but know that we would accept any offer
less than that as well, that would be extended.
Chairperson Seeley said it was a very exciting to offer this type of program in our community and
thanked the LaValles. Council Member Lee asked about power, how much space the band needed, and
questioned whether it would be best at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park or at Hidden Spring Park? The
pavilions at the parks are on a 26 x 26 pad, there is not electricity available at the Laurie LaMotte
Memorial Park pavilion, but there is at Hidden Spring Park. Council Member Lee suggested using the
area underneath the roof of the warming house shelter in case of bad weather. Ms. LaValle said all that
would be required was a space approximately 16' x 20' and power. They would be open to doing a
couple of shows, perhaps one with the Big Band and one with either the quintet or the 7 piece swing
band. Dates were briefly discussed, a week night would be preferred by the LaValles, but a weekend
could work also.
Also included in the packet was correspondence from Fred Bailey, Banjo Bandits whom Ms. Stephan
had talked to on the phone. The Banjo Bandits play Dixieland and 30's-40's music (Plus some
contemporary if requested) which Mr. Bailey said goes over really great with audiences in Summer
Park Concerts. They play regularly at parks, clubs and other venues throughout the Twin City area.
Mr. Bailey said the Banjo Bandits could do a 1 to 1.5 hour, 6 musician show in Centerville this summer
for $150. The date would have to be negotiated to fit yours/our schedule.
The committee will discuss this item later in the meeting following the appearances of Mr. Mark Statz
and Mr. GeoffMartin.
Mr. Mark Statz. City Enlrineer. Trail Proiect - Mr. Geoff Martin. Bonestroo. Landscape Desio
Mr. Statz had emailed the proposed driveway change prior to the meeting and had said he had received
a call back from Mr. Charles Cadenhead, Anoka County, regarding the changes to the driveway on
CSAH 14 to accommodate the park. Mr. Cadenhead didn't see a problem with the change as long as
the property owner felt we were still giving them reasonable access. Mr. Statz asked that Mr. Dallas
Larson set up an appointment with the property owner to discuss these changes.
At the last meeting Mr. Gooff Martin had presented a number of concept plans for the park, made
changes according to the committee's input and presented those new concepts to the committee. Mr.
Martin provided the committee with a memo that summarizes the committee's decisions regarding the
design of the main park and north park associated with the TE Grant Trail Improvement Project, which
will be attached to these minutes.
The committee discussed whether the pergola would be an alternate in the bidding process and would it
be desirable to have the footings put in without actually having funding for the pergola in preparation
for installation at a later date. Mr. Statz suggested if the pergola is going to be an alternate to bid the
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entire thing, including footings as an alternate. Committee Member Haiden questioned what exactly
does being an alternate mean, to which Mr. Statz answered once we know what the actual bids are, if
there is room in budget, the alternate will be added to the project.
A lengthy discussion was had regarding the fountain, the type of material to be used, the potential for a
sculpture and costs associated with writing and finishing of script on the fountain base. Discussion was
also had of ways to discourage skateboarders from using the fountain to grind. Varieties of benches
presented were also discussed.
Mr. Mark Statz reviewed the trail alignments for each of the segments included in the project. Vice-
Chairperson Amundsen raised concern over the Mill Road segment, noting that drainage from yards
was going to be directed over the trail in some locations. He stated that the committee would prefer the
trails sit up off the ground a bit to avoid this problem which could cause ice-up in the winter and
spring. Mr. Statz stated that this could be done, but that it may increase the cost of the storm sewer in
the area, but said he would work with Mr. Palzer to evaluate what could be afforded. There were no
other major concerns with the alignments.
IV. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Manlh 18.2009 Parks & Recreation Committee Meetinl!: Minutes
Motion was made by Chairperson Seeley, seconded by Committee Member Selander, to approve
the March 18, 2009 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes as is. All in favor. Motion
carried unanimously.
The Draft Minutes of the March 24, 2009 Special Joint City Council and Parks & Recreation
Committee Meeting Minutes were included in this packet, but the committee does not need to approve
these as they will be approved at the City Council level.
V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
Due to the length of the discussion regarding the trail and park project the committee opted to table
everything under Committee Business and Updates except for the Centennial Soccer Club's request for
the use of the soccer fields at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park, Earth Day and the Xcelerator Retro-Fit
Kit for the play structure at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park. An extra meeting was scheduled for
Wednesday, April 8, 2009 at 6:30 to discuss the items tabled. Ms. Stephan will ensure this meeting is
posted.
Trail Proiect
This item was discussed under appearances.
Plavl!round Safety Issues
This item was tabled until the next scheduled committee meeting.
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Solar Li2htinl!
This item was tabled until the next scheduled committee meeting.
Earth Dav Activity. Saturday. ADrilI8. 2009
The Committee will meet on Saturday, Aprill8, 2009 at 9:00 a.m. at City Hall to cleanup local parks.
Garbage bags and latex gloves will be provide to participants. Ms. Stephan will post information on
the web site and on the City sign.
Centennial Soccer Club's Request to use the Soccer Fields at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park
The Centennial Soccer Club has requested the use of the soccer fields at Laurie LaMotte Memorial
Park in an email from Mr. Spencer Garrett, Field Coordinator, dated Aprill, 2009. There are two parts
to the request:
I. Requesting two fields, 25 x 40 yard open spaces, located east of the parking lot and bound
by the bike path, for the U2 - U8 age group, for games only. This request is for Monday-
Friday from 4 p.m. to dusk, April (weather permitting) through June 30, 2009. The
Centennial Soccer Club will set up goals and manage a reservation system to assign teams
to specific dates and times for games.
2. Requesting one field, 70 x 60 yard open space, located south ofthe skate park, for the Ull
- UI2 age group, for practice only. This request is for Monday - Friday 3:00 p.m. to
dusk, Saturday and Sunday from 8 a.m. to dusk, April (weather permitting) througb
October 30, 2009. The Centennial Soccer Club will set up goals and manage a reservation
system to assign teams to specific dates and times for practices.
In the past years the committee has discussed how when football season starts in August there will be
no place for the local youth tearns to practice if all the fields are committed to the Centennial Soccer
Club every day of the week from April through October. The committee's concern with this was that
the football association has not asked for time or fields and the Soccer Club has. It was suggested the
football representatives be made aware they should be requesting time. In discussing this request
however, some of the committee members felt the fields should have some time left open for the
public's use for such activities as softball, frisbee and football. Overall, the committee felt a
compromise would be to reduce the days in request #2.
Motion was made by Chairperson Seeley, seconded by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, to
recommend to City Council approving the Centennial Soccer Club's request for dedicated use of
the soccer fields at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park as stated above in request #1, but recommend
amending the request in request #2 to the following days: Monday, Wednesday, Friday and
Sunday with the hours as requested. All in favor. Motion carried unanimonsly.
VI. UPDATES
Irril!ationIDrainal!e Pond Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park
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Committee Member Haiden asked Mr. Statz for an update on the irrigation pond for Laurie LaMotte
Memorial Park. Mr. Statz said the pond is currently on hold, but it will not be in the south west comer
per the Parks & Recreation Committee's recommendation.
Xcelerator Retro-Fit Kit
From Mr. Palzer to Mr. Harlan Lehman, Minnesota Wisconsin Playground, Inc.
The Parks and Recreation Committee is requesting more detailed information on the recall of the
Xcelerator play equipment that was installed at LaMotte Park in 2007. It appears that the
manufacturer will be replacing the swirling part of the play equipment with a mono pole. Will the
mamifacturer reimburse the city for the cost of the play piece? It appears the original moving piece
was not designed properly and hence is being eliminated making that portion of the play structure
unusable as intended, advertised and sold Please let me know prior to the work commencing at the
park
Response from Mr. Don King, GameTime:
As described and illustrated in the accompanying documents, GameTime seeks to replace your existing
Xcelerator carriage assembly and supports with a design that is intended to be used by one child
without the aid of other children spinning the user. We believe the rotating jUnction of the new design
is essentially the same as was intended with the original Xcelerator, but the Retro-Fif Kit discourages
misuse or use in an unintended manner. The jUnction of your Xcelerator is not being eliminated
Vice-Chairperson Amundsen asked if we could just take the structure out and put something else in and
not accept the replacement part. Mr. Palzer stated it was no longer an option as the paperwork had
already been sent in. Vice-Chairperson Amundsen felt the City should receive a refund considering the
replacement will not be what the committee ordered or intended and questioned whether the
replacement will be any fun for the children using the equipment.
Fete des Lacs 8K Run / Recruitinl! Volunteers (Fete des Lacs / Parade)
The race was discussed briefly, but will be discussed in more detail at the April 8, 2009 meeting.
The race registration form is available at City Hall and is on the City's web site. Discussion regarding
recruiting volunteers for Fete des Lacs / Parade /8K Run was had at the last committee meeting. The
information and contacts has been put on the City Web Site, will be mailed in the upcoming newsletter
which is sent with quarterly utility billing, was emailed to local businesses and will be mentioned in
The Citizen newspaper.
Committee Member Branch will get together with Committee Member Lee regarding the t-shirt design.
Council Member Lee said at this point he has 22 parade volunteers, 17 of whom will also help with the
8K Run. Committee Member Branch will make a list for the next meeting of how many volunteers are
needed for the 8K Run and what he feels those positions will be. Council Member Lee said he can
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supply the PA system and make it mobile so it can go from the start of the run to the end of the run as
needed. Committee Member Branch said he was meeting with Mr. Greg Keiselhorst also to discuss
coordinating events and volunteers.
Volunteer information supplied to the committee via email by Committee Member Branch:
1. I am in the process of getting event sponsors. I have made several contacts and have SOme of
the needed sponsors. We will break the event up into segments and ask individual companies to
sponsor each of the segments. We are also using this as an event to promote the many small
businesses in or near Centerville. For the smaller business, we are offering them the opportunity
to place advertising material in the race goodie bags. I had planned to charge them $75 for that
servIce.
2. We have a sponsor for the registration pick-up and race day registration. I promised her that we
would assist with volunteers. There would not be much to do until the week prior to the race.
This job will gather the materials for the goodie bags, stuff the goodie bags, then give the
goodie bags and the race numbers to the individuals the day before the race and the morning of
the race. We will also be running race day registration, which will be to take their registration
form and assign a race number.
3. There will be a sponsor for the pre/post race food items, for the water stop, and for the fmish
line. I will want a strong volunteer to help oversee those functions and to be sure the vendor
has the needed supplies and is doing ok on race day
4. We will need several volunteers for race course marshals. The marshals will be at all
intersections where there is a safety issue, or a runner could get off-course, and at each of the
mile markers. The volunteers at the mile markers will have radio communications with the race
starter. Their job is to callout accurate times to the runners or walkers as they pass. I will be
looking for a key volunteer to organize and supervise the race marshals.
Park Sil!llaee
This item was tabled until the next scheduled committee meeting.
Tree Removal at Eaele Park
This item was tabled until the next scheduled committee meeting.
Birdhouses in the Parks
This item was tabled until the next scheduled committee meeting.
Summer Proerams
A. Music in the Park
B. Battle of the Bands/Boards
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c. BBQ at Hidden Spring Park
This item was tabled until the next scheduled committee meeting.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made by Vice-Chairperson Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Lee to
adjourn the April 1, 2009 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting at 9:32 p.m. All in favor.
Motion passed unanimously.
Transcribed by Kim Stephan
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Memorandum
TO: Park
Commission
From: Geoff Martin
Project: TE Trail Project
Date: 3-30-09
Client: CentervWe Parks Commission
Re: Summary of Meeting NO.3 on April 1, 2009
File No:
Following is a summary of the Park Commissions decisions regarding the design of the
Main Park and North Park associated with the TE Grant Trail Improvement Project.
Main Park
1. The pergola, associated paving and footings should be bid as an alternate.
2. The fountain edge treatment should deter skateboarders. Suggestions included
rough texture paving for 3 feet around fountain curb, and/or an undulating concrete
cap on the edge treatment.
3. The granite base for the future sculpture should be included in the first phase and
designed to anticipate the addition of a future sculpture. The granite base should
include the inscription "May Peace Prevail ON Earth" in the four languages of the
predominate cultures associated with Centervilles history, ie, Lakota, French, Russian
and English. The parks commission will supply the translations to Bonestroo for
design and cost estimating purposes.
4. A simplified version with a decorative top similar to Concept B should be explored
and priced.
5. All three bench options will be sent out for priCing. Advantages and disadvantages
of recycled plastic and other materials will be explored.
6. Trash receptacles should be from the same family as the benches and include a
hood to keep rain out. If possible, separate compartments for recycling metal, glass,
and waste should be included. Wood or recycled plastic slats are preferred to match
the benches.
7. Site lines to the fountain should be reinforced. Suggestions included rearranging
trees to provide a backdrop, minimizing the number of trees, and/or including large
trees to provide views under the canopies.
8. The desire to accommodate a holiday tree is not necessary within the fountain.
Lake Side Park (North Park)
1. Grades and wall heights will be defined for the next meeting.
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