HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990-11-07 Minutes Pursuant to due call and notice thereof the Planning and Zoning
Commission of the City of Centerville held a public hearing on
Wednesday, November 7, 1990 at the City Hall. The purpose was to
hear all persons present regarding a request for a lot split and
to develop for residential purposes outside the Urban Service
Area on a Rural Residential parcel which is less than ten (10)
acres. Acting Chairperson Welk called the public hearing to
order at 7:03 p.m. Present: Wilharber, Drilling, Vermeulen,
Council Liaison Buckbee. Absent: Tourville.
Acting Chairperson Welk summarized the variance request to
members of the audience.
James Carlson, 7389 Mill Road, was present. Mr. Carlson
expressed opposition to the lot split, Air. Carlson would like to
see the rural flavor of the northern part of Centerville
retained. Mr. Carlson felt that if the Planning and Zoning
Commission were to grant this lot split it would set a precedent,
and other persons owning ten acres or less could then request the
same. Mr. Carlson also expressed environmental concerns with the
drain field being close to Clearwater Creek and Peltier Lake and
possible ground water contamination. He also expressed concern
with the runoff that might be created.
Paul Ervin, 7425 Peltier Lake Drive, Lino Lakes, was present.
Mr. Ervin also expressed concern over a precedent being set. He
likes the rural flavor of Centerville and Lino Lakes in that
area. Mr. Ervin also expressed concern about a drain field being
located close to a lake.
Acting Chairperson Welk closed the public hearing at 7:09 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof the Planning and Zoning
Commission of the City of Centerville held a public hearing on
Wednesday, November 7, 1990 at the City Hall. The purpose was to
hear all persons present regarding the possibility of amending
Ordinance #4, Table B - District Regulations to allow storage
sheds (up to 200 square feet) to be located ten (10) feet versus
the present twenty -five (25) setback requirement from the rear
property line, except in easement areas. Acting Chairperson Welk
called the hearing to order at 7:09 p.m.
Acting Chairperson Welk summarized the proposed amendment to
Ordinance #4 to members of the audience.
There were no comments made by members of the Planning and Zoning
Commission or audience.
Acting Chairperson Welk closed the public hearing at 7:10 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof the Planning and Zoning
Commission of the City of Centerville held their regular
scheduled meeting Wednesday, November 7, 1990 at the City Hall.
Acting Chairperson Welk called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
Meeting Minutes - P & Z
November 7, 1990
page two
Motion by Vermeulen, second by Drilling to approve the August 7,
1990 meeting minutes, Aye: Welk, Vermeulen, Drilling; Abstain:
Wilharber, motion carried.
The approval of the September 4, 1990 meeting minutes was tabled
until the next regular meeting.
Motion by Wilharber, second by Vermeulen to approve the October
2, 1990 meeting minutes, motion carried unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
Request for a lot split and to develop for residential purposes_
outside the Urban Service Area on a Rural Residential parcel
which is less than ten (10) acres.
Lynda Hentges Peterson, 7397 Mill Road, was present. Ms.
Peterson explained to the Planning and Zoning Commission that her
intent is to sub - divide her four acre parcel and sell one acre
with her present home and build a retirement home of 1,800 square
feet on the remaining three acres. Ms. Peterson expressed that
her taxes have increased 121.6% over last eight years, and she
can no longer afford to live in the area M. Peterson stressed
that this would not be a development. The sewer contractor took
soil samples and prepared a comprehensive sewer plan. Ms.
Peterson stated that if by agreeing to have the drain field
pumped every four months would increase her chances of having her
request approved, she would do so. The present driveway would
have to be an easement, but this would be worked out with a
surveyor. Ms. Peterson also noted that the Carlson's drain field
is located on her property.
Mr. Carlson stated that his drain field is on Ms. Peterson's.
property. They have worked out agreement, and Ms. Peterson has
allowed the encroachment, and he pays .$1 per year for the lease
of the land.
Mr. Erivn noted that in Lino Lakes the setback for lakeshore
homes follows the DNR guide line of 200 feet.
Ms. Peterson questioned how soon the sewer would be extended to
the northern part of the City. She would like to build a smaller
home and continue to live here.
Commission member Wilharber expressed concern over a precedent
being established. There are many properties in the City, that
if this variance was approved, could request the same, It would
be hard to justify the denial to others. If the property owner
petitioned for sewer and would pay for the sewer extension this
would be different.
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Meeting Minutes - F & Z
November 7, 1990
page three
Commission member Vermeulen expressed agreement with Commission
member Wilharber's comments. She also felt that since the
neighbors have voiced opposition this should also be considered.
Commission member Wilharber asked that City Staff check on the
setback requirements of the DNR versus the City setback
requirements.
Acting Chairperson Welk felt that nothing unique exists and it
would be hard to justify. If the lot split was approved it could
cause problems down the road.
Commission member Drilling stated that granting the lot split
would set a precedent.
Ms. Peterson noted that she had a variance before to have a
horse, and that certain guidelines were set. She asked the
Planning and Zoning if they could set strict guidelines that she
would follow, but that would discourage others from requesting
the same. She felt she was not like most people, since she would
only want the lot split to build a home for herself and her son
to live in.
Commission member Wilharber expressed that a horse is different
than a home. A horse will usually go with the owner if they
moved, but a house could be there forever. The guidelines would
be hard to control with the possibility of different home owners.
Ms. Peterson expressed that since there is creative financing,
couldn't there also be creative variances.
Council liaison Buckbee questioned if Ms, Peterson's variance
request could be justified /denied under the criteria that must be
met to allow a variance.
The Planning and Zoning Commission reviewed the follewina
sections of Ordinance #4 and made comment:
Section 65.03 - - There is no special conditions and
circumstances which are peculiar to the land, structure
or building involved that would not result from the
action of the petitioner;
Section 65.03 -2 - Literal interpretation of the provision of
this ordinance would not deprive the petitioner of
rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same
district under the terms of the ordinance;
Section 65.03 -3 - Granting of the variance requested will
confer on the applicant special privilege that is
denied by this ordinance to other lands, structures, or
buildings in the same district;
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November 7, 1990
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Section 65.03 -4 - The proposed variance could impair the
public health of the residents of the City from the
possibility of ground water contamination and runoff
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into the lake.
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Council liaison Buckbee expressed to Ms. Peterson that they would
like to help her. It is hard to say no, but the regulations in
the Ordinance do not seem to allow for her request to be
approved.
Ms. Peterson asked if the following would be possible:
- To be allowed to split her lot;
Sell her home on the one acre;
- Move to another home retaining the remaining three
acres;
- Build another home on the remaining three acres when
City sewer is extended to that area.
Tamara Miltz- Miller, Clerk /Administrator, was present. Ms.
Miltz- Miller stated that this would still require variance and
would have to be justified.
Mr. Carlson felt that this request would still be close to
setting a precedent for other land owners. Other land owners
could sell their homes on one acre lots, and sit back and wait
for sewer to come in and develop later.
Commission member Vermeulen asked Ms. Peterson if she had spoken
with the County Assessor's office if she felt she was being
unfairly taxed.
Ms. Peterson stated that she had spoken to the County Assessor
and that her taxes did not appear to be out of line. She felt
that by asking the County Assessor out to inspect her home would
be asking for trouble.
Motion by Drilling, second by Wilharber to recommend to the City
Council the denial of Lynda Hentges Peterson request for a lot
split and to develop for residential purposes outside of the
Urban Service Area on a Rural Residential parcel which is less
that ten (10) acres citing the following:
Ordinance #4
Section 65.03 -1 - There is no special conditions and
circumstances which are peculiar to the land, structure
or building involved that would not result from the
action of the petitioner;
Section 65.03 -2 - Literal interpretation of the provision of
this ordinance would not deprive the petitioner of
rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same
Meeting Minutes - P & Z
November 7, 1990
page five
district under the terms of the ordinance;
Section 65.03 -3 - Granting of the variance requested will
confer on the applicant special privilege that is
denied by this ordinance to other lands, structures, or
buildings in the same district;
Section 65.03 - 4 - The proposed variance could impair the
public health of the residents of the City from the
possibility of ground water contamination and runoff
into the lake.
motion carried unanimously.
Logo Committee Representative
Commission member Vermeulen volunteered to serve as the Planning
and Zoning Commission's representative on the Logo Committee.
OLD BUSTNESS
Poo ib il; v o a m nding Ordinance #4, Table B - Distrit
Regulations to allow storage sheds (up to 200 square feet) to be
located ten (10) f .t v rsus .he b a k
requirement from the rear property line. except in easement.
areas.
Motion by Drilling, second by Vermeulen to recommend to the City
Council to amend Ordinance #4, Table B - District Regulations to
allow storage sheds (up to 200 square feet) to be located ten
(10) feet versus the present twenty -five (25) setback requirement
from the rear property line, except in easement areas, motion
carried unanimously.
Possibility of Amending Ordinance *4. Section 34.10 MAJOR
RECREATION .Q T MENT
Motion by Vermeulen, second by Wilharber to recommend to the City
Council to amend Ordinance #4, Section 34,10 MAJOR RECREATION
EQUIPMENT as follows:
NOW READ: MAJOR RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT. No boat,.boat
trailer, travel trailer, pick -up camper or coach
designed to be mounted on a motor vehicle,
motorized dwelling, tent trailer, or similar major
recreation equipment, and no case or box used for
transporting such equipment shall be parked or
stored for more than seven (7) days on any lot in
a residential district except in a carport or
enclosed building or in a side or rear yard. No
point of any such equipment shall be located
within three (3) feet of the rear or side lot line
except when parking in an established driveway and
in no case shall any point be closer than ten (10)
feet from the living quarters of a residence on
Meeting Minutes - P & Z
November 7, 1990
page six
such t
adjoining property. No �.ich equihmen. shall be
used for living, sleeping, or housekeeping
purposes when parked or stored on a residential
lot, or in any location not approved for such use.
AMEND TO READ: MAJOR RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT. No
boat,boat trailer, travel trailer, pick -up camper
or coach designed to be mounted on a motor
vehicle, motorized dwelling, tent trailer, or
similar major recreation equipment, and no case or
box used for transporting such equipment shall be
parked or stored for more than seven (7) days on
any lot in a residential district except in a
carport or enclosed building or in a side or rear
yard. No point of any such equipment shall be
located within three (3) feet of the rear or side
lot line except when parking in an established
driveway and in no case shall any point be closer
than ten (10) feet from the living quarters of a
residence on adjoining property. No such
equipment shall be used for living, sleeping, or
housekeeping purposes when parked or stored on a
residential lot, or in any location not approved
for such use.
Residents may apply to the Clerk /Administrator for
a Temporary Parking and Occupancy Permit for one
recreational vehicle per residential parcel for a
maximum of a fourteen (14) day period in any one
year, if such parking and occupancy otherwise
complies herewith. Any such occupancy as stated
in this paragraph shall be only for noncommercial
use with no fee paid to the landowner, occupant or
renter. Upon investigation of the site the
Clerk /Administrator shall notify the applicant
within (10) days of receipt of the application,
the decision to deny /approve the request.
Extensions or appeals may be heard by the City
Council.
The Temporary Parking and Occupancy Permit fee
shall be determined annually by the City Council.
motion carried unanimously.
Meeting Minutes - P & Z
November 7, 1990
page seven
NEW BUSINESS
Richard DeFoe - Townhouse Proposal - Special Use Permit
Richard DeFoe, developer of the proposed townhomes, was present.
Mr. DeFoe stated that he has a signed purchased agreement with
the current owners, contingent upon his ability to develop
townhomes and a restaurant /bar or 100% townhomes.
Mr. DeFoe stated that he is looking to see if the Planning and
Zoning Commission would be in favor of the concept of townhomes
located near the Waterworks bar. His proposed townhomes would
consist of approximately forty (40) units.
Commission member Drilling questioned if the units would be
rental properties.
Mr. DeFoe stated that they would be sold individually.
Commission member Wilharber noted that there appears to be
approximately 6.71 total acres.
Mr. DeFoe stated that there is 6.71 total acres which is
presently a ballfield. If the bar is included there would be
approximately 9 acres.
Commission member Drilling asked Mr. DeFoe what type of townhomes
he was proposing. •
Mr. DeFoe stated that they would be a combination of two story
and single units. The approximate square footage would be 1,500
to 2,300 square feet. There would attached 2 or 3 car garages.
Commission member Wilharber questioned if Mr. DeFoe would
petition for municipal water.
Mr. DeFoe stated that this has not yet been determined.
Commission member Wilharber asked Mr. DeFoe if he was aware that
on his concept sketch plan the street for the proposed
development was off a private road (LaValle Drive).
Mr. DeFoe noted that a lot of details needed to be taken care of.
Tamara Miltz- Miller, Clerk /Administrator, was present. Ms.
Miltz- Miller noted that the ballfield is currently zoned R -2
which is the only zoning district that allows for multi - family
dwellings contingent upon the approval of a Special Use Permit.
The bar is currently zoned commercial.
Meeting Minutes - P & Z
November 7, 1990
page eight
Acting Chairperson Welk asked what the appropriate density for
that parcel of land would be.
Mr. DeFoe stated that this is purely conceptual. He would like
to know what the Planning and Zoning Commission would like.
Commission member Vermeulen asked if there were any examples of
similar townhouses in the area.
Mr. DeFoe expressed that there is nothing similar in the area.
The Pratt Development in White Bear Lake and Burnsville would be
similar.
Commission member Vermeulen asked as to what the price range
would be for the proposed townhomes.
Mr. DeFoe noted that the price range of $150,000 would be in the
ball park.
Commission member Vermeulen asked how many bedrooms the proposed
townhomes would consist of.
Mr. Defoe noted that they would consist of 2 -3 bedrooms.
Commission member Wilharber questioned if the proposed
development would have adequate fire protection, having only one
entrance.
Mr. DeFoe stated that there would be an emergency access
provided. He was just present for an informal yea /nay of the
concept.
Commission member Wilharber noted that with the City's current
water ordinance, municipal water would be required to be extended
to the proposed development. Mr. Wilharber questioned as to how
the extension of water would be financed.
Ms. Miltz- Miller suggested to the Planning and Zoning Commission
that they could recommend to the City Council that they
investigate the possibilities of extension of municipal water to
the site.
Commission member Drilling stated that he would need to be
convinced that this would be good for the City, he is personally
not in favor of townhomes in this area of the City.
Commission member Wilharber stated that he had no problem with
the concept. The number of units proposed seemed heavy. The
parcel is already zoned appropriately.
Meeting Minutes - P & Z
November 7, 1990
page nine
Commission member Vermeulen stated that she liked the concept,
but the extension of municipal water would have to be
investigated.
Mr. DeFoe noted that if the City requires the extension of
municipal water, he would request financial assistance from the
City through Tax Increment Financing.
Acting Chairperson Welk noted that the concept appeared to be
acceptable. This would be a nice site for townhomes, it would be
a far bigger asset to the City than its present use.
Mr. DeFoe asked the Commission what their major concerns were,
and the things they would like to see happen.
Commission member Welk noted that she would like to see
recreational facilities incorporated into the area for those
people, i.e. tennis courts; a nice landscape design; the road
access would need to be addressed with Anoka County.
Motion by Vermeulen, second by Wilharber to recommend to the City
Council that they approve the preliminary concept of townhouses
near the Waterworks bar contingent upon the investigation of the
extension of municipal water, Aye - Welk, Vermeulen, Wilharber;
Nay - Drilling, motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Er_entinary_aat_Batelumacniat
Motion by Wilharber, second by Vermeulen to table the Preliminary
Plat Review Checklist until their next regular meeting, motion
carried unanimously.
ADJOURN
Motion by Wilharber, second by Vermeulen to adjourn the meeting,
motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned 9:04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sanna E. Buckbee
Assistant City Clerk