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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-11-09 Minutes The Planning and Zoning Commission conducted short, informal interviews with Charles Brenner and Robert Wright for the open position on the Planning Zoning Commission. A letter from Thomas Wilharbor was presented to the Commission members explaining his regrets for not being able to attend his scheduled interview, but expressing his interest in still serving on the Commission. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Planning and Zoning Commission held their regular meeting on November 9, 1989, at City Hall. Chairman Tourville called the meeting to order at 7:18 p.m. Present: Welk, Drilling, Vermeulen, liaison Neumann. Chairman Tourville noted that motions made, but not seconded, should be noted in minutes. Liaison Neumann confirmed this. Motion by Vermeulen, second by Drilling to approve the minutes of October 3, 1989 Planning and Zoning meeting minutes with the following amendment: now reads: "Discussion on letters of interest for the open Planning and Zoning commission position. It was the general consensus of the commission to not make a decision based on letters." amend to read: "Discussion on letter of interest for the open Planning and Zoning comission position. Motion by Tourville to recommend to the City Council to appoint Thomas Wilharbor for the open Planning and Zoning position, motion failed due to lack of second." motion carried unanimously. OLD BUSINESS: Discussion 011 Lhe request for Jarianco at 7231 Mill Ro to add a three season porch /deck. Mr. Perkowski was present. A Public Hearing was held two months ago. Mr. Perkowski stated that he had spoken with Gunnar Pettersen, Building Inspector, and that Mr. Pettersen said that this variance would be a judgement call for the Planning and Zoning Commission based on the standards for granting a variance. He also questioned if he was asking for a 1 foot or 10 foot variance. Mr. Perkowski was informed by city staff as to the four criteria that must be met for a variance to be granted. He felt that he had satisfied the four criteria, citing 65.03 -1 he felt that, since the condition was not caused by him, the house was built before sideyard setbacks, and the house was so constructed that off the North side of his dining room is the only place for the three season porch /deck to be built; 65.03 -2 feels he would be deprived of a three season porch /deck; 65.03 -3 he feels that anyone with the same conditions under 65.03 -1, -2, and -4 would be granted a variance; 65.03 -4 he Meeting Minutes P c& Z Page Two would not impair his neighbors who are 31 feet north of his property line, and have no objections. Commission members discussed the size of Mr. Perkowski "s present non- conforming nine foot deck and noted Mr. Pettersen"s comments on this at the October 3, 1989 meeting stating that he could not replace a non - compliance with a more non - compliance. Chairman Tourville disclaimed the statement made by Mr. Perkowski that there were no sideyard setbacks at the time the deck was built, citing Ordinance #10 April 1961 was in effect with the same 10 foot sideyard setback as Ordinance #4 enforces today. Chairman Tourville also noted that the deck was not a result of his actions, but anything new would be the result of his actions. Enlarging of a non - conforming deck is prohibited unless there is a uniqueness. Commission member Drilling noted that the variance granted at 1850 Fox Run was different due to the fact they are on a corner lot and given the wrong information as to where they could build. Motion by Drilling, second by Welk to take a no action vote, that Mr. Perkowski be allowed to go in front of the City Council with no recommendation from the Planning and Zoning Commission, motion carried unanimously. Discussion on the open position Planning and Zoning Commission. Motion by Drilling, second by Vermeulen to take a vote at a closed meeting following the regular meeting, motion carried unanimously. NEW BUSINESS: Discussion on the Hardwood Ponds 2nd Addition. Gerald Rehbein was present. Mr. Rehbein stated that there were no changes and would like to have his sketch plan and preliminary plot approved. Hardwood Ponds is recommended for MUSA expansion and rezoning. Liaison Neumann noted that the Comprehensive Plan is approved. However, City Council is investigating recommendations by the DNR and Rice Creek Watershed for amendments. Motion by Drilling, second by Vermeulen to recommend to the City Council approval of Hardwood Ponds 2nd Addition sketch plan and preliminary plot contingent upon rezoning of property to R2A and MUSA expansion, motion carried unanimously. Discussion of the possible variance for the development on the south side of Main Street. Gerald Rehbein was present. Mr. Rehbein would like to have the 85 foot fronts, with deeper lots, keeping the 15,000 square foot lots. Meeting Minutes P & Z Page Three It appeared to be the general consensus of the Commission members that Mr. Rehbein was jumping the gun, since there has been no approval of this development. Mr. Rehbein left at 8:20 p.m. with intentions of re- drawing his plan. Discussion on the Acorn Creek Development. Cliff Thatcher was present. Mr. Thatcher wanted to know where the development stood with MUSA, and what kind of time frame he would be looking at. Liaison Neumann stated that MUSA expansion is granted but not dedicated to any one. The property in question needs to be rezoned R2A. It is up to the City to put MUSA where they feel it is needed. Everything is contingent on the approval of the Comprehensive Plan by Metropolitan Council. Chairman Tourville suggested to Mr. Thatcher that he get a copy of the comprehensive plan from city staff. Chairman Tourville gave Mr. Thatcher a copy of his letter from Metropolitan Council on the review of Centerville Comprehensive Plan. Chairman Tourville suggested Mr. Thatcher work with the property owners to the East (Center Hill Development) as they are his competition so to say for the MUSA dedication, and would need to work together with the placing of East West collector streets. Mr. Thatcher stated that he will come in and apply for rezoning of the 37 acres, with the understanding this would not guarantee MUSA expansion for this development. Mr. Thatcher left the meeting at 8:50 p.m. Chairman Tourville summarized Codification. He would like city staff to count the number of pages in the ordinances for budget proposes, as he felt the dollar amount quoted is lower than he would estimate. Liaison Neumann stated that three years ago when he looked into this the dollar amount estimated was around $10,000.00. Chairman Tourville feels this is a worthwhile thing and that monies should be budgeted for this. Motion by Tourville, second by Drilling to table discussion of the Codification of Ordinances until December 5, 1989 meeting for city staff to count number of pages of ordinances, motion carried unanimously. Chairman Tourville summarized the purpose of a Residential Development Guide. Liaison Neumann stated that the City Council had tabled this item until the next City Council meeting. Motion by Tourville, second by Vermeulen to table discussion of Residential Development Guide until December 5, 1989 meeting, motion carried unanimously. Meeting Minutes P & Z Page Four Discussion of possible rezoning options and priorites. Chairman Tourville noted that some of the rezoning recommendations were actually down zoning of property and stated that he would not be a part of this with out the property owners permission. He also felt that rezoning was premature since they had just told a potential developer to await approval of comprehensive plan. He would be more in favor of making residential into commercial than vise versa, Liaison Neumann stated that the commission could take what ever action they feel is right, that this was just recommednation/suggestions from the City Council for rezoning. Motion by Tourville, second by Vermeulen to table for further discussion on rezoning at the next meeting, motion carried unanimously. The Planning and Zoning commission had no comments for the December Newsletter. It appeared to be the general consensus of the Planning and Zoning commission that the seminars looked interesting but they do not have the time to attend at this time. Commission member Drilling requested copies of Ordinances #4 and #8. OLD BUSINESS Motion by Drilling, second by Vermeulen to recommend to the City Council the appointment of Charles Brenner to the open Planning and Zoning position, Welk - aye, Drilling - aye, Vermeulen - aye, Tourville - nay, motion carried. Motion by Vermeulen, second by Welk to adjourn the meeting, motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourn at 9:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, '021 C, &cc -aft Sanna E. Buckbee Assistant City Clerk