HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-08-02 Minutes Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Planning; and 'Zonin
Commission of the City of Centerville held a Public Hearing on
Tuesday, August 2, 1388. Chairman Tourville called the hearing
to order at 7:10 p.m. Present: Vermuelen, Lindgren, Drilling
and Council liaison Wilharber. Absent: Welk.
The purpose of the hearing was to hear all
persons present
regarding amending Ordinance #4, TABLE B, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, iOT ANU YARD REJIRFMENTS, to increase the minimum
lot requirements for the R -2A District from 10,000 square feet to
11,500 square feet.
Chairman Tourville asked for questions and comments from the
audience. The following persons responded:
Jerry Rehbein - 6266 Otter Lake Road, Lino Lakes
Mort Huber - Acorn Investments
Tourville asked for comments from the Commission. Member
Lindgren stated that he is against 70 foot frontages and that if
developers got 70 feet they would want 65.
Motion by Lindgren, second l the hearing,
� nd by Vermeulen to adjourn �.he . iearing,
motion carried unanimously. Hearing adjourned at 7:19 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Planning and Zoning
Commission of the City of Centerville i
3 `_ ,erit.er`.'llle held a second Public
Hearing" on Tuesday, August 2, 1988. Chairman Tourville called
the hearing to order at 7:20 p.ni. Present: Vermeulen, Lindgren,
Drilling and Council. liaison, Wilharber. Absent: Welk.
The purpose of the hearing was to hear all persons present
regarding amending Ordinance #4, TABLE A, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, PERMITTED AND SPECIAL USES, B -1 Commercial District,
to include Liquor Stores on the list of USES PER1 ED WITH A
SPF"' Ai ii FEEMrm
Chairman Tourville asked for comments from the audience.
Lori Peltier, 2241 - 3rd ,'ULe White Deaf Lake. was pre ;t
and stated that she is one of the parties interested in opening a
Liquor Store and Video Shop in the Centerville Plaza building.
She doesn't have a problem with the need for a Special Use
Permit,
Council liaison Wilharber stated that the reasoning behind
putting Liquor Stores on the list of Uses Permitted With a
Special Use Permit versus Permitted Principal Uses is so that. the
City will have more control; the permit will be reviewed yearly;
problems can be eliminated early.
Motion by Lindgren, second by Drilling to adjourn the hearing,
motion carried unanimously. Hearing adjourned at 7:28 p.m.
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof the Planning and Zoning
Commission of the City of Centerville held its regular meeting on
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Tuesday, August 2, 1988. Chairman Tourville called the meeting
to order at 7:29 p.m. Present: Vermeulen, Lindgren, Drilling
and Council liaison, Wilharber. Absent: Welk.
Motion by Lindgren, second by Drilling to approve the minutes of
the July 5, 1988 meeting. Member Vermeulen stated that she did
not get a copy in her packet. Assistant. Clerk gave her a copy to
read. After reading it, Vermeulen voted for approval. Chairman
Tourville abstained, because he was not present at the July 5
meeting.
OLD BUSINESS
Discussion of recommended amendment to Ordinance #4 to increase
the minumum lot size in the R -2A district. Member Drilling
stated that he feels we should increase it to 11,500 with 80 foot
frontages He
� °_. further stated that we hired a planner and the
planner recommends it. Lindgren agreed, as did Vermeulen.
Tourville stated that this would require 145 foot minimum depth.
Motion by Drilling, second by Lindgren to recommend the City
Council amend Ordinance #4, TABLE B, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATION'S, LOT AND Y'a REQUIREMENTS., to increase the minimum
lot requirements ments for the R -2A District from 10,000 square feet to
11,500 square feet with a minimum frontage of 50 feet, motion
carried unanimously.
Discussion of second public hearing. Lisa DeBilzan, 1965 South
Robin Lane, was present as one of the parties planning to open a
Liquor Store /Video Shop in the proposed Centerville Plaza. Lisa
stated that they have no concerns about the need for a Special
Use Ferm i I: , as they plan to run a clean business.
Motion by Lindgren, second by Drilling to retaomweiid that the. City
Council amend Ordinance #4, TABLE A, to add Liquor Stores to the
list of USES PERMITTED ON SPECIAL CISE PERMIT, motion carried
unanimously.
Discussion of Rehbein sketch plan for the development north of
Main Street, east of Shad Avenue and west of Royal Meadows.
Chairman Tourville asked Jerry Rehbein for comments. Mr. Rehbein
stated he has owned the property for about twelve years. He
would like to start with the old requirement for 10,000 square
foot lots, and gradually increase to the new requirement for
11,500 square feet and over. He called it. averaging.
Tourville asked the City Engineers, John Stewart and Brian Miller
for comments. They recommend rezoning the south ten acres now
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and would like to :ee. a MUSA extension for the north six and one-
h" second half acres to be done as the ;�e;iotli phase.
A lengthy discussion of width for streets, cul -de -sac as opposed
to looping Brian Way, traffic flow, etc. followed. There
appeared to be a difference in interpretation of the part of the
Planners report (pg. 2, ist para.) which discusses phases of
approval for the development. Vermeulen and Drilling feel that
the planners are ask.ng that the city wait, and John Stewart and
Chairman Tourville feel that they are suggesting the city approve
the south portion, presently in the MUSA, so that construction
can begin.
Vermeulen and Lindgren both commented that we just changed to
11,500 foot lots and now we are being asked to lower our
standards by averaging from 10,000 up to and over 11,500.
Chairman Tourvilbe called a recess at 9:00 p.m.
Meeting resumed at 9:13 p.m.
A short discussion concerning MUSA extensions and the need for
more homes to be hooked up to City water followed
Motion by Vermeulen, second by Lindgren to set a public hearing
for September o, 1988 for rezoning the south one-hall of the
proposed Rehbein development, which is presently in the MUSA,
from Commercial to R -2A Residential, motion carried unanimously.
After more discussion, Vermeulen withdrew the motion and Lindgren
withdrew his second.
Motion by Vermeulen, second by Drilling to recommend City Council
approve ;Ale Rehbein ohetc}, p u.i i - .cnti c:nt ., the de
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making Brian Way a cul -de -sac, that all lots be a minimum 11,500
square feet, that the path be changed to the north side of lot
4t10 and extend down 30 feet on the east edge, and that the path
to the park be 20 feet wide, motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Lindgren, second by Drilling to hold a special meeting
Tuesday, August 23, 1938 for a public hearing to discuss rezoning
the south ten acres of the proposed Rehbein development which is
presently in the MUSA, from Commercial to R -2A Residential,
(notion carried unanimously.
Motion by Lindgren, second by Vermeulen to hold a special meeting
at 7:30 p.m. on August 23, 1988 between the City Council and the
Planning and Zoning Commission, with the City Planner, the City
Engineer, and Barry Bloomquist (Attorney for North Branch) to
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discuss land areas that abutt Centervillo, motion carried
unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
Mort Huber, Acorn Investments, presented a plan for a development
to be named Acorn Creek, proposed to be developed north of
Centerville Heights and formerly named Creekwood, He stated that
his company had traded a piece of land in Wyoming, Minnesota for
this
area He also stated that he wants advise and/or help from
the Commission to get the project done properly and as soon as
Possible.
Chairman Tourville reviewed what had happened with the Creekwood
plan. Because it was zoned Rural Residential (10 acre lots), and
the Comprehensive Plan would have had to be amended, the City
Council decided to wait until the planner was on board before
approving any plan for Creekwbod.
Mr. Huber stated that he has given fifteen prints of the
dev to the City Clerk and paid escrow to the city to get
the ball rolling on a Planner Report.
Brian Miller, City Engineer, stated that the Planner Report will •
be ready for the next City Council meeting which is scheduled for
August 10.
Council liaison Wilharber stated that an impact Study was done by
the City Engineers to determine if Mill Road could handle the
increased traffic that Creekwood and/or other developments in the
area would generate. The findings were challenged by residents.
Neither the City nor the developer wanted to put any more money
into it and decided to wait for the planner.
City Engineer Miller stated that it appears that Metro Council is
starting to agree that Centerville is growing and will grow at a
faster rate than expected.
Drilling stated that nothing is changed unless the plan changes
to add traffic flow to the east.
Vermeulen is not opposed to the plan, but wants to see the
planner report.
Lindgren asked Richard Chromey, F & R Development, Inc., 1710-
123rd Ave. NE (the developer who wants to develop the area north
of Royal Meadows) if they are east of Acorn. They are.
A discussion followed at which Mr. Huber of Acorn Investments and
Richard Chromey, of F & R Development, Inc., asked to be next. to
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each other on next month's agenda. They feel that this would be
best for them and the P & Z.
Chairman Tourville stated that he hopes both Planner Reports will
be available for the next meeting.
Member Vermeulen left the meeting at 10:30 p.m.
Mr. Chromey, (mentioned above) presented sketches of a
d=velopment his company is proposing for the area north of Royal
Meadow's, to be named Centerhill. He stated that he likes most of
the planner's recommendations, but must discuss them with his
surveyor. He will come back to P & Z after the Planner's Report
is done.
Discussion _sinli of 1989 P & Z i
��udgat. it was decided to complete the
map project that began in 198
` 1988. The following budget was
decided:
$;900.00 - for meetings
$100.00 - for seminars
$1,000.00 - for maps
$30.00 - for League of Minnesota
Cities magazine (If two
•
members would want it.)
The last item was tabled for next month for Assistant. Clerk to
ask members Vermeulen and Welk if they would like to have the
magazine.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Drilling, second by Lindgren to adjourn the meeting,
motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Beverly A. Hughes
Assistant City Clerk
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each other on next month's agenda. They feel that this would be
best for them and the P & Z.
Chairman Tourville stated that P & Z will look at both Planner
Reports at the next regular meeting on September 6.
Member Vermeuien left the meeting at 10:30 p.m.
Mr. Chromey, (mentioned above) presented a Sketch Plan of a
development his company is proposing for the area north of Royal
Meadows, to be named Centerhill. He stated that he likes most of
the planner's recommendations, but must discuss them with his
surveyor. He will come back to P & Z in September after the
Planner's Report is reviewed by the surveyor and any recommended
changes are made.
Discussion of 1989 P • Z budget. It was decided to complete the
map project that began in 1988. The following budget was
decided:
$900.00 - for meetings
$100.00 - for seminars
$1,000.00 - for maps
$30.00 - for League of Minnesota Cities magazine (If two
members would want it.)
The item concerning the Minnesota Cities magazine was tabled
until next month for Assistant Clerk to ask members Vermeuien and
Welk if they would like to have it.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Drilling, second by Lindgren to adjourn the meeting,
motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10, 08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Beverly A. Hughes
• Assistant City Clerk
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CITY OF CENTERVILLE
1694 Sorel Street, Centerville, Minnesota 55038 429-3232
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
CITY OF CENTERVILLE
COUNTY OF ANOKA
STATE OF MINNESOTA
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a public hearing will be held before
the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Centerville on
Tuesday, August 2, 1988 at 7:00 p.m. The purpose will be to
discuss amending Ordinance #4, TABLE B, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, LOT AND YARD REQUIREMENTS, to increase the minimum
lot requirements for the R -2A District from 10,000 square feet to
11,500 square feet.
Dated July 14, 1988
ce_ec�-c, a . /Lg ke ai
Beverly A. Hughes
Assistant City Clerk
CITY OF CENTERVILLE
1694 Sorel Street, Centerville, Minnesota 55038 429-3232
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
CITY OF CENTERVILLE
COUNTY OF ANOKA
STATE OF MINNESOTA
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a public hearing will be held before
the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Centerville at
the City Hall on Tuesday, August 2, 1988 at 7:15 p.m. to discuss
amending Ordinance #4, TABLE A, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS,
PERMITTED AND SPECIAL USES, B -1 Commercial District, to include
Liquor Stores on the list of USES PERMITTF2 ON SPECIAL USE
PERMIT.
Dated: July 14, 1988
1:47&a._%
Beverly A. Hughes
Assistant City Clerk
NOTICE
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING
CITY COUNCIL and PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
JULY 12, 1988 - 6:00 P.M.
The City Council and the Planning & Zoning Commission of the City
of Centerville will meet with the City Planner and the City
Engineer to discuss amending Ordinance 04, (R -2A zoning) to
increase the square footage requirements, and the possible
passing of a Resolution to hold a Public Hearing on August 2,
1988 before the regular P & Z meeting to implement these changes.