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CITY OF CENTERVILLE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE
AUGUST 7, 2001
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Planning and Zoning Committee held their regularly
scheduled meeting on August 7, 2001, at 6:30 p.m.
PRESENT:
Chair Person Brian Hanson
Commissioner David Kilian
Commissioner Ray DeVine
Commissioner Barry Brainard
Commissioner Tom Wilharber
ABSENT:
Commissioner John McLean
Commissioner Rob Sheppard
COUNCIL:
Liaison, Linda Broussard Vickers
STAFF:
Acting City Administrator/Building Official Paul Palzer
I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Roll Call
The Chair called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
II. PUBLIC HEARING(S)
None.
III. APPEARANCES
None.
In recognition of audience members present, Chairperson Hanson stated the Committee
would first consider New Business.
V. NEW BUSINESS
1. Concept Plan, 1475 Mound Trail, (Glenn Rehbein Companies)
Bart Rehbein, applicant, offered to answer questions.
Commissioner Wilharber questioned whether Lot 1 would have access. Mr. Rehbein
presented a slightly revised drawing showing an easement on the corner of the property.
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Ms. Pam Corr, 1405 Mound Trail, stated that they had been told that they had an
easement and assumed it covered the entire driveway. Mr. Rehbein explained the
majority of the easement is located on the lot to the west but they do not yet have an
easement from the Liebels.
Commissioner Wilharber inquired regarding the front footages of Lot 5 and 6 on Mound
Trail. Mr. Rehbein stated Lot 5 is about 74 feet and Lot 6 is about 104 feet wide.
Commissioner Wilharber asked if Lots 7, 8, and 9 abut a cul-de-sac. Mr. Rehbein stated
they have not yet met with the County to address that access. He stated he thinks it could
be a private eyebrow configuration, depending on how the City and County viewed it.
Commissioner Wilharber stated the County may favor that arrangement over three
separate entrances. Mr. Rehbein concurred and noted there is currently one access for the
existing house.
Chairperson Hanson asked the square footage of Lot 1. Mr. Rehbein stated that Lot 1
averages 100 feet wide and 140 feet deep with access to the lake. He estimated it would
be about 16,000 square feet and believed it was zoned R-1 but was not sure.
Commissioner Brainard noted the zoning is actually R-2.
Commissioner Wilharber stated that sewer services the lots in question.
Mr. Rehbein stated they have agreed to run a sewer service stub on the lot line along Lot
6 and to Lake Side Auto.
Mr. Palzer advised that the R-2 minimum is 15,000 square feet. He noted Lots 5 and 6
do not meet the 100-foot width requirement after the 35-foot frontage so the houses
would be against the lake. In addition, Public Works would oppose an eyebrow
configuration due to the difficulty in plowing and safety issues with having to back onto a
County roadway. However, if it were a private road, they would not object.
In response to Commissioner Wilharber, Mr. Rehbein advised of their work to investigate
the Indian burial mounds and advised they have excavated in all the mounds with the
exception of one on Lot 1 plus the big mound on Liebel’s property and there were no
signs of any burial remains.
Mr. Rehbein advised there are no setback minimums from the mounds and they have
been told they can build within 20 to 25 feet of the mound. Commissioner Kilian asked
what would happen should remains be found. Mr. Rehbein stated he has not yet
encountered that situation and would have to further research the procedure.
Commissioner Brainard asked how this complies with the Comprehensive Plan and
future land uses. Mr. Palzer stated it is zoned R-2, Single-family, Residential.
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Commissioner Brainard asked what the minimum lot requirements are for an R-2 zoned
lot. Mr. Palzer presented a chart of minimum lot sizes.
In response to Commissioner DeVine, Mr. Rehbein reviewed the types of houses they
anticipate to construct and explained the lots may have to be raised several feet to create
walkouts to the lake. He indicated that Lot 8 would be a rambler-style lot.
Chairperson Hanson asked where the building pads will be located. Mr. Rehbein stated
the building pad will meet the 75 foot setback from the Ordinary High Water Mark and
estimated the houses will be 75 to 100 feet back from the lake.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers asked about the lot width. Mr. Palzer stated the
building pads on Lots 5 and 6 would have to be pushed back since you need 100 feet at
the house setback line and a minimum 35 foot front yard setback.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers stated a house should be able to be located 75 feet
from the lake at a 100-foot width. Mr. Palzer stated that is correct.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers asked about Lots 8 and 9. Mr. Rehbein stated those
are much wider lots so there would be no problem. He stated they would agree to meet
the 100-foot width and setback requirements.
Chairperson Hanson asked if an attempt will be made to locate houses so they do not
block the view of the lake from each other. Mr. Rehbein stated Pam Corr is about 80 feet
from the lake and the houses will be 80 to 100 feet from the lake.
Commissioner Wilharber asked about water runoff. Mr. Rehbein stated they have talked
with the Watershed District who indicated they did not see any need to provide ponding
but a swale will be included in the grading work to assure no runoff towards the Liebel
house. He explained they would not be doing much to change the existing grade.
Commissioner Wilharber asked about the 10-foot easement between Lots 6 and 8. Mr.
Rehbein explained it provides a sewer easement and allows lake access for Lot 8. Mr.
Palzer stated the City already has the utility easement.
Commissioner Brainard asked if the Shoreland District Ordinance applies to this
property. Mr. Palzer stated the City has not yet adopted the Shoreland District Ordinance
and suggested silt fence be required along the lakeshore and property to the west.
Mr. Rehbein reviewed the process they will follow with the plat and advised they may
start grading but no homes would be constructed until after May 1, 2002.
Commissioner DeVine stated his recollection that this type of project is what the
Comprehensive Plan is looking for.
Mr. Rehbein agreed this project would fit into the neighborhood.
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Pam Corr stated her concern with Lot 1 and asked who assures it is large enough to
accommodate a house and still meet all setbacks. Mr. Palzer advised the house can be
located within 25 feet of the side lot line.
Commissioner Brainard explained the setbacks would be reviewed when the building
permit application is submitted.
Pam Corr asked who determines how the easement fits on this plat. Chairperson Hanson
suggested she check into it herself to assure she understands it. Council Liaison
Broussard Vickers stated it would be included in the preliminary plat if on the applicant’s
property.
Commissioner Brainard noted a subdivision would be required which involves a public
hearing and notification to all property owners within 500 feet.
Motion by Commissioner DeVine, seconded by Commissioner Wilharber, to
approve the Concept Plan, 1475 Mound Trail, Glenn Rehbein Companies, as
submitted.
Commissioner Kilian asked Mr. Rehbein to work with staff to address their concerns
related to the turn around design and ownership. Mr. Rehbein assured the Committee
that he would do so.
All in favor. Motion carried.
Variance Request for Dog Kennel - Stan Hasiak
Stan Hasiak stated he submitted a variance application and payment and assumed it
would be considered by the Committee at the meeting tonight. He noted it is not on the
meeting agenda.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers explained that a variance consideration requires a
notice of public hearing to be published so this variance request will need to be
considered at the next meeting.
Chairperson Hanson apologized for this miscommunication.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers suggested Mr. Hasiak call staff so a solution can be
determined.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
Chairperson Hanson noted the letter dated July 19, 2001, from Gor-em, LLC requesting
withdrawal of their application for preliminary plat of Eagle Pass Second Addition.
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1. Accessory Structures (M-1 District)
Discussion ensued regarding the memorandum dated August 3, 2001 from
Clerk/Treasurer Bender advising of her research in regard to the current M-1 District.
Commissioner Kilian noted the lots are very small in size and reviewed the estimated
house sizes.
Mr. Palzer raised the issue of green space and lot coverage and noted that some revisions
may be needed so mixed uses (commercial and residential) can co-exist.
Commissioner Kilian stated at the workshop they were looking at somewhere between 20
percent and 40 percent of the back yard.
Commissioner Brainard stated his version of Ordinance #4 does not state accessory
structure review is required. Commissioner Kilian stated that the most current version of
Ordinance #4 does require Planning and Zoning Committee review of accessory
structures.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers suggested the Committee consider a number that
should be included in the Ordinance.
Commissioner Kilian noted that a zero setback and five feet between buildings can
already be allowed in certain circumstances. Mr. Palzer suggested consideration of a
square footage number and recommended less than 20 percent green space being
required.
Discussion ensued regarding different percentage scenarios. Commissioner DeVine
suggested consideration of the zoning districts as well since the lot sizes vary.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers explained that if the restriction is set too small, the
business is not able to rebuild should it sustain a loss.
It was agreed that differentiation needs to be made between green space and lot coverage.
Mr. Palzer stated that the City could make an exemption for garages and have a different
set of regulations for garages. He noted that if the garage is attached, it could cover the
lot since that is currently not restricted.
Chairperson Hanson noted that the green space requirement would restrict lot coverage
and control size of structure.
Mr. Palzer noted another consideration is the drainage. Council Liaison Broussard
Vickers suggested that be addressed during the preliminary plat process.
Commissioner Kilian restated that Ordinance 4 requires review of all accessory
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structures. Council Liaison Broussard Vickers stated she does not recall Council action
on such an ordinance revision. She suggested commercial use property meet the green
space requirements as in the commercial and industrial districts and the residential uses
within a mixed-use district meet a specified percentage coverage.
Commissioner Kilian recommended a 2 percent minimum, or 200 square feet, and double
if the property does not have an attached garage.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers noted the benefit of allowing accessory storage in the
downtown district to eliminate outdoor storage. However if allowed, the property value
and taxable value changes.
Commissioner Kilian reviewed the areas of downtown that are currently commercial or
may be developed as commercial in the future.
Commissioner Wilharber stated he believes that 600 to 680 square feet is workable
provided it does not exceed the size of the main structure.
Staff was directed to advise the Committee of other Ordinance sections that need to be
addressed. Mr. Palzer noted the Committee may want to allow a conditional use permit
application for larger square footages.
Commissioner Brainard suggested staff contact other cities with mixed-use districts to
determine their requirements.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers stated her preference to require commercial uses to
meet commercial requirements and residential uses to meet residential requirements.
Commissioner Kilian read a section of Ordinance #4 dated May 1, 2000, Section M-1,
addressing mixed-use districts and considerations to be made. Mr. Palzer advised that
when ordinance sections contain conflicting information, the most restrictive applies.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers suggested adding “except M-1” and special
requirements.
Motion by Commissioner DeVine, seconded by Commissioner Wilharber, to
recommend the City Council amend the Ordinance 4 to require Commercial uses
(as defined in the Ordinance 4) in the M-1 District to follow the current commercial
guidelines for percentage of green space. For other properties, the maximum
accessory structure allowed is 704 square feet not to exceed the size of the principal
structure if they do not have an attached garage. If the property has an attached
garage, the maximum accessory structure will be two (2) percent of the lot size or a
minimum of 200 square feet.
Council Liaison Broussard Vickers suggested addressing the definition for “commercial”
which requires a public hearing.
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Commissioner Brainard recommend staff work with City Attorney to draft a definition of
"commercial."
Ayes – 3 Nays – 1 (Brainard) Abstain – 1 (Kilian). Motion carried.
V. NEW BUSINESS - (continued)
1. Concept Plan, 1475 Mound Trail, (Glenn Rehbein Companies)
This item was addressed earlier in the meeting.
2. Zoning Permit Application
3. Conditional Use Permit
4. Special Event Permit
Motion by Commissioner DeVine, seconded by Commissioner Kilian, to table
consideration of the Zoning Permit Application, Conditional Use Permit, and
Special Event Permit. All in favor. Motion carried.
VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS
None.
VII. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
1. July 3, 2001 Meeting Minutes
Commissioner Wilharber requested a revision to Section 2 to indicate the public hearing
was closed at approximately 7:50 p.m.
Motion by Commissioner DeVine, seconded by Commissioner Wilharber, to
approve the July 3, 2001 Meeting Minutes as amended. All in favor. Motion
carried.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Brainard, seconded by Commissioner DeVine, to adjourn
the August 7, 2001 Planning Committee Meeting at 8:21 p.m. All in favor. Motion
carried unanimously.
Transcribed by:
Carla Wirth, Recording Secretary
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