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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-08-04 P & R Minutes Approved Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 08-04-10 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES Wednesday, August 4, 2010 - 6:30 p.m. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Parks & Recreation Committee of the City of Centerville held the regularly scheduled meeting Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at Centerville City Hall, 1880 Main Street. Present: Chairperson Patrick Branch Committee Member Suzanne Seeley Committee Member Brian Peterson Committee Member Kevin Amundsen Committee Member Kevin Selander Absent: Vice Chairperson Jon Grahek Committee Member Mark Haiden Council: City Council Liaison Mayor Capra Staff: Staff Liaison Kim Stephan Mr. Mark Statz, City Engineer ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ I. CALL TO ORDER Roll Call Chairperson Branch called the August 4, 2010 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting to order at 6:35 p.m. II. SET AGENDA Chairperson Branch requested adding a discussion of a Coordinator for Schwan’s Skate Night under #5 Updates as A. Motion was made by Committee Member Amundsen, seconded by Committee Member Seeley, to set the agenda with the above addition. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. III. APPEARANCES Mr. Mark Statz made an appearance to discuss the Trail Project & Storm Water Reclamation Project. Trail Project Update The committee took into consideration the following input from Mr. Dallas Larson, City Administrator: Mark Statz and Paul Palzer will be at your meeting to review the trail project and provide suggestions to get this back within the expected cost. The project cost estimate was about $1,040,000; bids came 1 of 6 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 08-04-10 in over $1.3 million. Obviously some things will need to be changed. Mr. Statz will outline how he could restructure the bid to put more items of the entry park in as alternates. Hopefully the ability to drop some things and scale back the park together with extending the completion date to the end of next season will bring the cost down within acceptable levels. The best bet may be to set the park up in a way that some of the amenities can be added in later years after park fees begin coming in again. Another problem that has come to my attention is the significant amount of landscaping in the plan. I should have raised the issue before, but I am concerned that we may be taking on much more operating expense than we can handle in the budget. I suggest that the landscaping be revised to focus on a couple of areas along the road, but substantially reduce the perimeter landscaping. We simply do not have the staff to take on large amounts of additional work. Mr. Statz informed the committee that on Tuesday, July 13, 2010, bids were opened for the Transportation Enhancement Grant Regional Trail Link Project. Only two (2) bids were received and they were both considerably higher than the engineer’s estimate. With the bids as they are, and the amount of federal funding capped, it would be difficult for the City to afford its share of the project. With this in mind, on Wednesday, July 14, 2010, the City Council requested that Anoka County reject all bids. At a meeting of the County’s Public Works committee on July 19, 2010, the County followed through on this request; rejecting all bids and authorizing a re-bid of the project. This leaves two options. The first option would be to abandon the project altogether. The other is to re-bid the project with some modifications to the bid in an effort to receive lower bids and to allow more flexibility in award of the project. At the last City Council meeting, the direction from the Council was to return with a proposed format for the re-bidding of the project. Included in the packet was a memo from Mr. Statz documenting the proposed changes to the bidding documents, value engineering (using less costly materials), additional alternates, engineering scope for re-bid and an updated project schedule. Mr. Statz informed the committee that there were 22 requests for bids, but yet only 2 bids were submitted for the project so he asked bidders or prospective bidders why they came in so high or were not interested in the project. The reasons were varied and somewhat vague, but it appears the November 24, 2010 completion date of the project and the complexity (fountain, bridge work, grading, paving, retaining walls, landscaping, multiple disciplines for any one company) were the deterrents. Contractors had portions of the job quoted out to other companies instead of just one contractor taking it. One of the contractors they said there were no problems getting quotes from pavers, but the rest of the project was more difficult. Contractors are also busy right now with stimulus money available for street projects. The proposed re-bid would extend the completion date allowing the contractor flexibility to begin construction in 2010, but not require completion until the fall of 2011. Certain restrictions would be incorporated to minimize disturbances to neighborhoods for extended periods of time. For example, we would expect that if work on a certain trail segment were begun in 2010, it would be finished in that same year. Mayor Capra reminded the committee the City will not receive reimbursement for this project until 2012. Mayor Capra stated she was disappointed by the bid results and would really like to see the project re-bid and begun yet this year. Mr. Statz said the other part of the re-bid plan is to get the base bid down by adding more items as alternates. Committee Member Seeley questioned whether there was any possibility of broadening the area of bids, such as looking for contractors outside of the immediate area to which Mr. Statz replied the bid already goes everywhere including out of the metro area. 2 of 6 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 08-04-10 The committee discussed all of the alternate options. The kiosk needs to stay in the bid as a trailhead park; the kiosk is part of the MNDOT requirement. As far as taking out things like steel landscape edger and replacing with plastic edger, this is a minimal savings and will need to be replaced down the road. There is not enough of a savings to warrant the change. The committee discussed using epoxy or paint and the committee felt that the because of the maintenance required of paint every couple years, the cost savings was not enough to warrant future maintenance costs. It was suggested by Mr. Statz to keep the crosswalk epoxy and the rest of the trail latex paint. The committee agreed to eliminate the pergola as it was never a part of the park the committee was in favor of. This saves approximately $27,000. While the committee would still like to see grading done for the Trailside Park and possibly the retaining wall put in, it was a consensus to make this portion of the park (North Park) an alternate with a potential savings of $42,000. The committee decided on an alternate kiosk location if the north leg is removed from the plan, as well as eliminating the $1,100 to install the flagpole. Landscaping was discussed and the committee agreed there was too much landscaping included in the original plans from Bonestroo, not just an expense to install, but for future maintenance. Landscaping is to be scaled back to minimal. Mayor Capra asked Mr. Statz what the expectations of hydro seed were, he replied it should be grass and not weeds, but depending on the environmental conditions it does not always work that way especially along side a roadway were salt is used. Mr. Statz stated he has volunteered Centerville and CSAH14 for an experimental salt resistant sod program with MNDOT because Anoka County is not going to come back and fix the areas along CSAH14 previously hydro seeded that are now full of weeds. The committee opted for granular borrow instead of select, the originally proposed concrete drain structures and to keep in the bid the sandblasted concrete and colored concrete. Alternates changed order from Mr. Statz’s proposal as follows: Alternate #1 ~ Amenities Alternate #2 ~ Fountain Alternate #3 ~ Trailside park Alternate #4 ~ North Leg Kiosk Location The pergola was dropped completely. Mr. Statz stated none of the trail segments can be eliminated; the City cannot build part of the project. Mayor Capra said the City has applied for this grant for 10 years and Council is not in favor of abandoning the project, the Committee Members also believe it is a one time opportunity to connect the trails in Centerville. The committee accepts the fountain may not be reasonable, but hopefully by modifying other areas it can still be workable. Faulty Trail Plan The committee discussed an editorial called submitted by a resident in the July 21, 2010 edition of the Citizen. Mayor Capra informed the committee that Ms. Lindsay was present at the last council meeting. It was discussed why the trail could not go on Goiffon or behind the rectory. Storm Water Reclamation Project Mr. Statz provided the committee with handouts for the different options being discussed for the 3 of 6 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 08-04-10 irrigation system at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park. The diagram shows the placement of all the sprinkler heads with the small ones in the ball fields recessing into the ground and won’t be seen. The larger ones around the perimeter are 8” plates similar to what is used in golf courses. There was a second option presented that were larger than 8” and are more like what is used in agricultural fields. Committee Member Amundsen asked if any one had ever seen these used in a park and felt they were way too big for our purpose. Someone will get hurt or they will get damaged. Committee Member Selander agreed that these were not meant for a park, they would encourage children to play on them and they would be loud disturbing the neighbors. There is a significant price difference which is why Mr. Larson and Mr. Palzer encouraged Mr. Statz to look at them. The pump being used is capable of pumping 500 gallons per minute and while irrigation would occur during off peak park hours, they would need to run for 6 to 8 hours from like midnight to 8 a.m. It was questioned how much water we need to pump to meet the requirements of the project. Mr. Statz said an inch a week from the pond watering 12 acres of park requires minimum 400 gallons per minutes at 80 PSI to get rid of the amount of water we need to. It was also questioned who was going to maintain this vast system of pipes and heads? The committee’s recommendation to Mr. Statz and to City Council was to not use the largest heads for the above listed reasons. Mr. Statz also informed the committee that there is a possibility of the Fire Department’s garage currently located at the old Public Works building moving to Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park. This will then be shared jointly for storage between the Fire Department and Public Works. IV. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES July 7, 2010 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes Motion was made by Committee Member Seeley, seconded by Committee Member Peterson to approve the July 7, 2010 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes as is. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS Adding a Second Meeting in September Dedicated to 2011 Planning Chairperson Branch requested adding a discussion of a second Parks & Recreation Committee meeting in September to talk about projects and finances for the following year. The regularly scheduled September meeting includes an hour presentation from a Master Gardener on the Emerald Ash Borer so the agenda will be relatively short. th The committee opted for Wednesday, September 15 at 6:30. Ms. Stephan will ensure this is posted. VI. UPDATES 2010 ~ 8K Run Chairperson Branch updated the committee on last minute details and job assignments of the upcoming race. At this point the race has taken in $1580 between registrants and sponsors per Mr. Mike Jeziorski, Finance Director. The committee is concerned at the number of runners registered at this point (45) but, is hopeful more will register at same day registration. Right Foot Running is 4 of 6 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 08-04-10 providing prizes at the end of the race and Chairperson Branch discussed creative ways of giving away prizes, not just to the runners who finish first. The committee would like to add a FREE 1K Children’s Run next year thinking this will be fun for the children, but also encourage parents to come out and run. Chairperson Branch would like to see a sponsor provide half the funding with the committee funding the balance. Discussion was also had as to adding a 10 mile in-line race. Chairperson Branch questioned what date should be locked in for 2011? Running magazines need the information by the end of August. It was suggested having a joint meeting with parade coordinator (depending who is going to do the parade in 2011) and the Centerville Lions to determine what dates they are selecting for Fete des Lacs events in 2011. Chairperson Branch would like to move the race from the first Saturday in August to the last Saturday in July to avoid conflicts with a fairly large established race and in-line scheduled for the first Saturday in August in St. Paul. The committee agreed on Saturday, July 30, 2011 for next year’s 8KRace. Music in the Parks th Severe weather cancelled Mr. Tom Lee’s performance on Tuesday, July 27 at Hidden Spring Park. th Mr. Lee is able to reschedule for Tuesday, August 24 which will extend the program for one week. There were 6 gallons of ice cream and 108 cones to be used for this event which, some of which was used on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 for the performance of the Banjo Boys Jazz Band. These two items cost approximately $40 (Darrin Mosher’s company donated half of the ice cream) There was $150 th remaining in funds allocated for the program leaving $110 for Mr. Lee’s August 24 performance, the committee needs to decide what they would like to do. The committee opted to offer pizza and root beer floats for Mr. Lee’s performance. Ms. Stephan will make arrangements for pizza to be delivered. It was also discussed that a committee member needs to be the Music in the Parks Program Coordinator for the remaining events or at least individual members need to be responsible for specific performances. Fete des Lacs Parade Review Mayor Capra updated the committee by saying the parade was a huge success and volunteers served up 8 gallons of lemonade and about 350 cookies to the crowd following the parade. Every staff person involved did an outstanding job in their various ways and Mayor Capra was very grateful for all of the assistance. There were no problems with radio assistance from the Anoka County Radio Club; everything went very smooth including crucial traffic intersections. There were some cookies left that will be donated to Music in the Park Program for cookie ice cream sandwiches. The cub scouts handed out 750 US flags to the kids along the route and Mayor Capra said there had to be at least 1,500 in attendance. Great time and a great job by all! Thank you for your support of our city and the people that live here. Park Program Fliers The cost of printing the fliers will be split with the Fete des Lacs Parade/Fireworks budget. 5 of 6 Parks & Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 08-04-10 Movies in the Park ~ Saturday, September 18, 2010 Committee Member Peterson has been researching the rental of movies and equipment, as well as spaces available (park, school, church) to offer the community a FREE Family Movie in the Park Night. The idea has been to offer an outside viewing of a movie at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park, with a back up weather plan of St. Genevieve’s Parish Center. The elementary school is also an option. Committee Member Peterson has tentative approval from the church and school. The committee was supplied with movie lists in the form of links to Modern Sound Pictures Inc. and Swank Catalog Online prior to the August meeting for review suggesting it would be beneficial to make a movie selection at the August meeting as the September meeting may not be enough time to get a reservation into the vendor. Modern Sound Pictures Inc. has the prices listed online starting at $75 and charges $18 for shipping each way; they have the smallest selection, but are more reasonably priced. Swank charges $250- $350 per movie. Disney movies are $350. The newer the movie, the more expensive. Equipment; including speakers, cables and projector can be rented for approximately $150 if the equipment is picked up opposed to delivered. Rentals are for a 5 day period. The low end projector is adequate for the committee’s purpose. The committee left the choice of the movie up to Committee Member Peterson and Committee Member Selander as they have small children. At the July meeting the committee selected Saturday, September 18, 2010 for a movie showing at 7:00 p.m. The committee will also offer free popcorn. Motion was made by Committee Member Peterson, seconded by Committee Member Amundsen to request City Council approve funds from Park Programs not to exceed $400 for the Movie in the Park Night to be held at Laurie LaMotte Memorial Park, Saturday, September 18, 2010 at 7:00 p.m. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. Skate Night at Schwan’s Super Rink ~ September 25, 2010 A free to the public Skate Night was scheduled with Schwan’s Super Rink earlier this spring as a benefit offered to each of the City’s contributing to the original cost of the building the additional rinks. The committee will need to request funding from City Council if refreshments are desired and notify the event coordinator at Schwan’s for this service prior to the event. This event will also need to be advertised as well as Committee Members need to commit to who will be in attendance. Committee Member Selander volunteered to be the event coordinator. The committee opted to not provide refreshments. Ms. Stephan will put the information on the web site and the City sign. The event is from 4:30 to 6:30 p.m. on Saturday, September 25, 2010. VII. ADJOURNMENT Motion was made by Committee Member Peterson, seconded by Committee Member Amundsen to adjourn the August 4, 2010 Parks & Recreation Committee meeting at 9:20 p.m. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously. Transcribed by Kim Stephan 6 of 6