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Home My WebLink About2017 09-05 PC PACKETCity of Gem Lake .Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Tuesday, September 5; 2417, 7:00 p.m., Heritage Hall, 4200 Otter Lake -Blvd. Call to Order and Roll Call Chair Ben Johnson called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.rn. Commissioners Cacioppo, Pratt and Wippich were present: Staff present: Patrick Kelly, City Attorney, City Councilmern .ber Lindner.. Nathan Fair, Landmark. Citizens: Huck and Chriss€e Cammack, Cal. Johnson, Ken Kirchhoff; Fritz. Magnuson, Dare Marier, Craig and Kathy Rafferty,.Carol Schacht and Steve Varlet', Approval of Agenda Commissioner Pratt made a motion to approve the agenda, Commissioner Wippich seconded, agenda approved. Approval of Minutes. Commissioner Pratt`made a motion to approve the minutes;. Commissioner Cacioppo seconded; minutes approved. Old Business None Landmark _Development ,_ Nathan ,Fair Attorney Kelly Introduced the Presentation by Landmark Concept for development of 18 acres of County Road E. The concept plan was published as, public hearing and the Planning Commission will stay in that. forum.. The City of Gem Lake has not received an engineering plan, no details of the concept have been given to the city.planner, and no. formal application has been received by the City of .Gem Lake, This is an opportunity for citizens to ask basic.. questions and look.at the overall concept. The: Planning Commission will not be making: a decision, the meeting will be:treated as a town hall meeting, similar to the F.ord.Plant in the City of St. Paul, will this concept be acceptable to the community? Mr. Fair concept presentation: Landmark Development has been working for two years .on'plans and now a conceptfor the 18 acres on County Road F. 5ome engineering has been .co.mpleted: on the project, an approved wetland delineation has been completed. The .current concept is 30 detached villa homes, with a price. p.oint.of.$45a,0o0 - $t oo,oco, private roads,.thre.e-carturned garages (meaning the garage issituate d on the. side of home, not head on). A villa home is marketed towards empty -nesters or couple With perhaps a teenage child still at home who. wish to downsize. Homes tan be.1,400 square feet.- 5,000 with or without a basement, walk. out if the land allows, hitttng the price point of $451a,000 - $600,00a, with $450;000 being the better .price point. No outbuildings or sheds will be. allowed. The roads will be private. The.logic of th.e current:concept. recognizes that there is lots of water. on the west side of the property, so the driving factors ofthe concept location is the €arge wetlands in the west. The lilacs will be preserved. The trail on the concept is a place holder. There could be a trail in the future. Entrance to the concept wi€1 be via Daniels Farm Road. Natural landscaping would surround the concept, 9 acres will be dedicated backto the City of Gern Lake.. City of Gem Lake Planning Commission meeting 9/5/ 2017 Page 1 Noted that Mr. Hansen has rights to Daniels.Farnn.Road.. Mr. Magnuson: What conversations have taken place about an entry at English? Mr. Fair: Prefer English entry, An entrance at International would cost the foss of a fair amount of trees.. Prefer. EngIish but If we have to use International, we have to, however want to save as. many trees as possible. Traffic patterns from detached .v.illa..homes is different 'than single family homes. Plan to have the approval in April,.2018,.with a four month. period to develop. hooking at 30 units in 30. rnonths. A`three yea r.build out or Could go 1.8 months. Will work with Davies Farm Road Association, Mr. Magnuson: Seems like Ramsey County has a double standard. in regard to the entrance off of County Road E, Vadnais Heighn didn't have to. put in a turn lake; appears Ramsey County is overstepping their bounds. Public hearing closed at 7.35 pars. Commissioner Wippich: Good plan overall. in.the .northern quadrant, more shielding with trees, product agrees with entrance,..good product. Commissioner Pratt:. Size of horn es. and lots appropriate for the marketplace. Agree that it's :a little tight on the north side, maybe twist the cul-de-sac, need more buffer on the north s1de, good product. Commissioner Cacioppo: What the about the other lot on the eastside? Mr. Fair: LandMark has no interest in the other land. Mr.. Johnson: if anyone has further questions; please email them to hire. Being there no other business, Commissioner. Wippich made a motion to adjourn the meeting,. Corn missloher Cacloppo seconded, meeting adjourned at7:55 p,rn. City of Gem hake Planning Commission meeting:9I5I 2017 page 2 CITY OF GEM LAKE, MN 4240 Utter Lake Road Gem Lake, MN 55110-3227 Planning Commission Meeting Agenda September 5, 2017, 7:00 p.m. -- Heritage Hall 1. Call to: Order & Roll Call 2. Approval of.Axenda 3. Review.& AoDroval.of Minutes August.1, 2017 Minutes 4. Pubolic Hearin s (done. 5. Discussion Items 101d Business New Bua ines5 . a. Presentation by Landmark Development of a concept plan for development of an approximately A acre parcel of.unimproyed land; lying north of County.aoad E and west of Daniels Farm Road in the City of Gem Lake.. Parcel is owned by Hansen LLG 6. Public Comments A.. Please Review the 'Guidelines for qem Lake. Meetings' prior to sharing remarks. 7. Adjourn NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING: ■ TBD—Tuesday.. October3, 201.7 held for availability City of GmLake Telephone, 651-747-2790 4200 Otter Lake Road E-mail:. Cij] (ggernlakeNIN.or Gem Lake; NW 5511.0-3227 Website:. gemlakemn.org City of Gem Lake Planning Commission Meeting Tuesday, September 5, 2017, 7:00 p.m. Heritage Hall; 4200 Otter Lake Road, Gem Lake; MN Sign. In Sheet Z2 P%,,o 1^ti7/ D Le5��/� s ; IL r r guidelines for Gem Lake Meet�n s Public Comment at Council Meetings and at Public Hearings City Council Meetings are the forum for the city council to conduct the city's lousiness: While city council meetings are open to the public, pursuant to the Minnesota Open ((Meeting Law, they are not a forum for public expression. As such, members of the public are not allowed to participate In council dlscusslon and debate without a specific invitation and/or forma] recognition.by the presiding officer. As a courtesy to other members. of the public and the cound1 individuals are asked to refrain from disruptive behavior including shouting, speaking out of order, and other actions that are intended to be disruptive. Common.courtesy is expected, and respect to one another is essential for order of.business, Gem Lake allows; for a public comment period at the end of each city council agenda for.a11 regularly scheduled meetings. Pub. lic:comments are subject to these Iimitations: I.. Speakers must be recognized by the presiding officer (usually the mayor) before speaking and are limited to three minutes: each. 2. When multiple speakers appear to speak on the same topic, comments should not be repetitive. The presiding officer maymquest speakers appoint a spokesperson. 3. The presiding officer may place a time Iimit on the. public comment period`if necessary to allow for the conduct of city business. If this does not allow sufficient time to hear all public comments, the comment period .m.ay be deferred to the next regular council meeting. 4. Speakers may be required to sign.up prior to speaking and are required to state their name and address when approaching the podium.. 5. Speakers must d€rect thelr remarks to the presiding officer, or to the entire council. 6. Speakers shall. not use obscene, profane or threatening language, nor conduct themselves I a threatening, loud or belligerent manner that disrupts the conduct of the meeting. 7. Speakers are required to follow the direct€on of the presiding officer:, 8. ..Speakers who do not follow the direction of the presiding officer will be warned that further disruptive conduct will 'result in removal from the meeting. After.warnirig, if the conduct continues the presiding officer'may ask the speaker to leave. I Council will generally not respond at the. same meeting where an issue is initially raised by the public. Generally, the matter will be referred to staff, Iegal.counse1, or others.for further research and passible report.or action at a future meeting. Public Hearings are sometimes required by law to allow the public to offer input an city council decislons, When public hear€ngs.are required by law, notice shall be. provided as required by state statute.. Public hearings shall be commenced at the time advertised in any notice required by I aw. Guidelines for Gem Lake Meetings —adopted July 18, 2017 General Procedures for Public Hearings The order of business.conducte.d. by the council shall generally be as follows: 1. Opening comments. by the presiding officer, announcing the purpose of the public hearing. 2. Presiding officer opens the public hearing portion of the meeting.. 3. Staff presentations, such as engineering reports, and other relevant information. 4. Developer presentation/other presentations.. 8: Public comments. 6.. beading of written. corn rnents. 7. Presiding officer formally closes the public portion of the meeting. Other guidelines for public hearings: 1. Speakers who wish. to address the council muSt: follow the same rules as stated above in the city council portion .of this handout. 2. Speakers may also provide written comments to the coirncif before the meeting.. Written comments may be read aloud by the presiding officer. Anonymous, unsigned communications will not be read. 3.. The presiding officer maycontinue the hearing if necessary to allow for more time. Other Important Guidelines for Public Meetings L All remarks should be directed at the presiding officer or to the entire. -council. Personal attacks.on council members are not allowed. It is inappropriate to use the public comment period for purposes of making political speeches, ineludingthreats.of political action.. 2. The council will generally not engage in debate or dialogue with speakers during the public comment period. A list will be made of alf tiuestions so they can either be answerer] at.the end of the meeting or referred to others for research and answered at a later time. Guidelines for Gein Lake Meetings adopted July 18, 2017 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Tuesday, August 1, 2017 Heritage Hall, 4200 Otter Lake Road Gem Lake, MN 1. Call to Order & Roll Call Chair Ben Johnson called the City of Gem Lake Planning Commission to order at approximately 7:00 p.m: Members Present: Chair Ben Johnson; and.Comrnissioners Art Pratt and Len Cacloppo Staff Present: Jim Lindner, City Council Member Public Present: Craig Rafferty 2. Approval ofAeenda/Minutes. A... Agenda: Commissioner Pratt .rnada a Motion to approve the August 2017 agenda, ChairJohnson seconded, agenda approved 3-0, B. Minutes; Commissioner Wippich made a motion to. approve the meeting minutes for June 6, 2017,. Commissioner Cacioppo seconded, minutes approved 3-0 3. Announcements. None provided 4. Public Hearin No items on the agenda 5. Discussion Items (Did Business & New Business) A.. Introduction of new City of Gem Lake Planning Commissioner Len. Cacioppa. B. Continuation of review of City of Gem Lake Consolidated. Land Use Ordinance (CLUO) (Ordinance No. To Be Assigned).. CLUD was tabled far further discussion following its Public Hearing at the:June 6, 2017 Planning Commission. Meeting. The. following. items pertaining to the.CLUO were discussed by the Commissioners, with input variously from Mr. Lindner and Mr. Rafferty: Please note that references are to the Gem Luke Consolidated Land Use Ordinance — Final Draft (6..6.20.17)' and "'AppendixA — Consolidated Land Use Ordinance 65 2027' available at Heritage Hall and. as posted on the official city website for the City of Gem Lake (under'News & Updates'). 1. Determination of the ordinary high water level of the body of water known as. Gem Lake, and other bodies of water within the city limits, shall the made by the Minnesota Department -of Natural Resources, not the Gem Lake City Council. See for instance, Page 17: b.5.1{C]. a. Commissioners discussed and voted to support this change, 3-0 Page 59, Section 10 - Amend Section 10 — "Open 5pace/Recreational District "OS/R" to read. "Public Open Space/Recreational District" and insert "public" into the appropriate locations throughout Section J.O. Page 12. For the purposes of the CLllp, "public open space;" shall be considered within the context of the Met Council's Regional Parks Policy PIan with in "Thrive MSP 2040," the Council's comprehensive development guide for the region. Met Council's local Planning Handbook contains the following land use categories: Open Space. (05) -1j - Resource protection or buffer; 2) support unorganized public recreational activities, may contain trails, picnic areas, public fishing; etc. or 3) preservation of unaltered [and in its natural.state for environmental or aesthetic purposes. Park & Recreation (PR) - Primarily for public active recreation activities improved with playfields/grounds or exercise equipment, golf courses,.zoos or other simi(ar areas. In addition, a definition should be added -to the "Appendix A— Consolidated Land Use Ordinance 6 5: 2011,' such as: a. Public Open Space -Any parcel or area of land or water including, but not limited to: wetlands, prairies and grasslands, pastures, forests and wooded areas, mixed forest & grasslands, or any other naturally occurring land form than is essentially unimproved and which may be devoted to use for the purpose of 1. the preservation of natural areas and resources, il. outdoor recreation (active & passive), iii. support of public health and safety, or, iv. maintaining a high quality of life:. a. Commissioners discussed and voted to support this change, 3-0 1 Page 63; Section 13.8.3 — Minor changes within Planned Unit Developments to items such. as structu.re.o.r building locations, placements and heights. should be requested. by a variance procedure..R.ecommend elimination.of language assigning auth.orization authori'tyto: the Zoning Administrator and insertion of language referencing the variance procedure. a. Commissioners discussed this recommendation and determined that the change. was counterproductive: and unnecessary. voted to.not .make: this recommendation, 3-0 4. With regards to the existence or creation of lawful non -conforming uses a.ndstructures as a result of the:implementation of the CLUO, Section.16.3 under General Provisions shall apply. Notwithstanding the prohibition under Section 16.3.4, where a non -conforming building or structure. has suffered damage at.#i#ty percent (50%) or greaterof its fair market value, the City may consider a request for Variance through the variance procedure for the reconstruction and. same: use: as before the damage was sustained. The City should work to ensure that no future proposals or development result in non=conforming uses or structures being established.. In addition, as they arise and .on a case -by -case basis, :the City should rely on the expert advice: of,the city planner and city attorney with regards to addressing issues of non -conforming uses and: structures. a. Commissioners discussed and voted to support this recommendation, 3-0 City of Gem. -Lake Telephone: 651-.7447-2790: 4200 Otter Lake Road E-mail: Cit em1akeMN.or Gem Lake, MN 55110-3227 Website: genitakernn.org Page 13 S. Edit .definitions and descriptions throughout CLU0, and specifically under 9.1.1 and 9:3iI to reflect changes to draft. map on page.28 ("RO — Neighborhood Edge (NE)" and "R5 — Neighborhood General {NG)"} (create cross. -reference to "R.O"and "RS" Districts?) or eliminate the 'new' designations a. Commissioners discussed and voted to eliminate the 'new' designations from the draft map, 3-0 6. Public Comments None provided. 7. Adjourn Upon motion by Commissioner Pratt, seconded by. Commissioner Cacioppo, the August. 2017 Planning Commission meeting was adjourned at approximately 9:12 p.m. (3-0) City of Gem. Lake Telephone: A51-747-2790. 4200 Otter Lake. Road. E-mail; City@aemlakelVlN.arg Gem Lake,.MN 55110mMl Website:. gemlakemn,org N89°46`58F S A2 I f 25 I ` 17 � I \ Pond Z 16 HWL-KU 14 -`` 13 �WeGand A'2 �� W�tlxrV!#1 I 1 !n \ pev - ,i � � 1 Open Space , 9.6 acres) ] z &5 I CoFn m l Fn i I I 1 i i i / ■ ! l 1 1 e zs A F l 0 I ■; o } Pond t 7 — ` 1 HWL+952.5 I L r ,m � (+r- 27,700 60 ■ �• � {r 4 ■■ r $ \ [•} ��7 �aOE1 ��b C30t OET `g5s: p S59'45 55 W 935.00 DRAWING NAME NO. BY DATE REVISIONS USE [INCLUDING COPYING, pISTRISUTION, ANDIIX2 CONVEYANCE GF INFORMATIW OF THIS PRODUCT IS STRICTLY PROHISITEO WITFIDUT ER ESA AUTHORIZATION. 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