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Member Felice concurred, noting that it appeared to be a government fee, but was actually a company or hauler-initiated, similar to that of a cost of doing business fee. Member Felice noted concerns with deceptive language tactics creating opaque surcharges and/or arbitrary fees; causing cities to consider what sanctions the City could realistically incur, when they needed garbage haulers available. Member Vanderwall opined that this issue had come up during previous discussions from a hauler's perspective. Member Vanderwall further opined that, in reviewing the price list, it provided for experience of dollars, and disproved the perception that everything done by government was at a higher cost. Member Felice noted that organized collection also provided for pick up of every can, and it became less likely that someone's service address would be missed; along with assurances that the contract could stipulate where the garbage would end up, and not allow it to be disposed of where the City could be held liable if not properly taken care of, both valid concerns. Member Vanderwall concurred, noting that it was not only a liability issue, but also a philosophical issue for the end point. Member Felice noted that an organized collection contract would allow the City to understand how much garbage was being produced in the City; with cities paying a tipping fee, with any changes addressed in the contract. Chair DeBenedet noted that these were more interesting points for the Commission to consider in its continuing discussions. Chair DeBenedet noted other considerations were whether license fees adequate to administer and enforce existing City ordinances; policy brainstorming should Roseville adopt organized trash collection and concerns that fees would remain the actual cost for administering the program and not go toward a"slush fund" or another use or need. Chair DeBenedet elaborated on the consensus direction provided from the City Council at their recent joint meeting with the PWET Commission, with the next step indicated for the Commission to get an engineering opinion on the actual impact on local streets from multiple haulers versus organized trash collection systems. Chair DeBenedet noted an interesting post on the Roseville Issues Forum recently, addressing current practices for weekly versus bi-weekly recyclable collection and response rates plus how that additional traffic impacted City streets, even though recycling trucks were smaller and should have less impact on the streets. Chair DeBenedet opined that it was an issue worth discussing. Member Felice opined that it was easier to remember to put it out every week; and further opined that there was only one recycling truck for an entire neighborhood versus multiple garbage haulers. Page 15 of 18