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• Regular City Council Meeting Monday, October 10, 2011 Page 27 Ms. Bacon apologized if she had led anyone to believe that Y employee premiums were paid 100%; and noted that most employees paid a deductible out-of-pocket of$5,000 to $10,000. John Kysylyczyn,3083 N Victoria Street Mr. Kysylyczyn spoke more broadly to this issue, opining that the process for un- ion contracts was still screwed up in Roseville; and that the City Manger, as the City's negotiator was charged with negotiating at the direction of the City Council and their established goals, and then reporting back on those negotiations. Mr. Kysylyczyn opined that this was at least the way the process was supposed to work; however, the historical process for union negotiations that still seemed to be the norm was that the union's signed agreement was brought forward as a mat- ter of fact for the City Council to accept, without having the City Council setting priorities before hand. Regarding comparing with other cities and the private sector, Mr. Kysylyczyn opined that the other missing comparison was with other government entities with salary comparisons for like positions (e.g. snow plowing) such as Ramsey Coun- ty, the State of MN or other levels of government. Mr. Kysylyczyn noted that no information was presented to the City Council that considered that portion beyond city to city comparisons that served to isolate the City in a bubble. • While not having any conflicts with Ms. Bacon's information, Mr. Kysylyczyn suggested that there may be a conflict in asking her to bring forward recommen- dations to the City Council that personally and directly affected her, and adding undue pressure on her. Mr. Kysylyczyn suggested that a third party be brought into the process to avoid such a conflict. Councilmember McGehee questioned if Mr. Kysylyczyn had a model that uses such a third party negotiator; with Mr. Kysylyczyn responding that many cities, including the City of Maplewood, MN, used outside contractors for a portion or all of their human resource services. Carol Kester, SW Roseville At the request of Ms. Kester as to how many City employees were under Public Employers Retirement Association (PERA), Ms. Bacon responded that all City employees were under PERA, in accordance with state law. Ms. Kester advised that she was asking the questions based on Councilmember Johnson's comment about reviewing other pension plans; with Councilmember Johnson clarifying that he was asking to be educated on the City's pension plans. Ms. Kester opined that individual insurance premiums of $300 plus dollars per • month seemed high to her; with Ms. Bacon responding that the premiums were based on the number and amount of claims realized by the City, and opined that