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Planning Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – Wednesday, May 04, 2011 <br />Page 5 <br />Further discussion included the viability of mixed use and whether it was still a desirable <br />205 <br />use given the ongoing and/or frequent number of vacancies in many of those types of <br />206 <br />developments. <br />207 <br />Chair Boerigter noted the previous direction from the community in not wanting more <br />208 <br />destination retail for Roseville; continued disinterest in a big box retailer in the Twin Lakes <br />209 <br />area; and the limited potential for small shops and allowing for pedestrian access by foot <br />210 <br />or bicycle; and what options remained other than MDR or HDR with some limited mixed <br />211 <br />use. Chair Boerigter noted that the community’s vision didn’t appear to be a downtown <br />212 <br />feel, or regional shopping draw; and questioned the actual majority vision for the area <br />213 <br />and if it was being addressed by focusing on a new urbanism. <br />214 <br />Mr. Lamb advised that his and staff’s approach is that there was not a determination <br />215 <br />being made on what goes into the Twin Lakes area, whether mixed use, HDR, <br />216 <br />commercial or office use, but allowing for enough flexibility to facilitate the community’s <br />217 <br />vision for livable wage jobs at whatever use developed rather than minimum wage jobs <br />218 <br />such as would be found at a big box retailer. Mr. Lamb identified with comments of <br />219 <br />Commissioners on what would or would not work in this current economy, with indicators <br />220 <br />being that some smaller mixed uses, but not larger mixed uses depending on what the <br />221 <br />market could deliver; bur ways to provide incentives to developers to achieve that <br />222 <br />employment base. Mr. Lamb noted the need for amenities surrounding the Metropolitan <br />223 <br />Transit’s park and ride facility; and the potential for the area and its proximity to the <br />224 <br />Northeast Diagonal for future long-term transit corridor uses, in addition to the existing <br />225 <br />great public amenities in Roseville. Mr. Lamb advised that the intent was to make it all <br />226 <br />work together; while recognizing the multiple visions that could occur in Twin Lakes. <br />227 <br />Mr. Paschke clarified that the regulating map would not be specific enough to provide a <br />228 <br />template for a developer, but identifying what could be built and what could not be built <br />229 <br />based on the map and plan dictating where development could occur, not the specific <br />230 <br />use, but a development’s connection and interaction with primary streets, accesses, <br />231 <br />corridors, whether structures could be single or multi-story, and their massing and <br />232 <br />density. Mr. Paschke advised that the use was already set through Commercial Mixed <br />233 <br />Use Zoning District designation. <br />234 <br />Further discussion included how to arrange a structure on a site to reinforce walkability or <br />235 <br />liability of a street, identifying Langton Lake Park as a connection for residential areas <br />236 <br />and potential future residential areas; and how to make that park an asset for workers, <br />237 <br />residents, and the entire community. Mr. Lamb noted his observations with people <br />238 <br />currently using the west side of Langton Park for walking, creating a destination already; <br />239 <br />and the need to emphasize the flexibility of that asset, whether on the site itself, or by <br />240 <br />creating corridor streets that help connect he park with other areas to recognize its <br />241 <br />benefit. <br />242 <br />Mr. Paschke reviewed the next step for the Planning Commission and their next view of <br />243 <br />the map and plan after the public engagement process and open house to understand <br />244 <br />better what the community would like to see, once they understand the purpose of a <br />245 <br />regulating map. Mr. Paschke advised that the plan would provide the details: building <br />246 <br />heights, articulation of those buildings, how to achieve corridors and their proposed <br />247 <br />types, a pedestrian corridor plan reserved for pedestrian access with no building in that <br />248 <br />specific area, areas where buildings could locate. As an example, Mr. Paschke noted the <br />249 <br />existing Metropolitan Council’s interceptor pipe and easement that couldn’t be built on, <br />250 <br />but could accommodate a pedestrian corridor allowing it to be maximized to bring people <br />251 <br />to the park and create a natural separation between potential uses. Mr. Paschke advised <br />252 <br />that the plan would address many such opportunities, areas dedicated or reserved, and <br />253 <br />how it all ties together with specific design standards and zoning code requirements. <br />254 <br />Mr. Lamb advised that the plan and map would be used synonymously through diagrams <br />255 <br />for the public, with Langton Lake Park highlighted as an asset to reinforce, protect and <br />256 <br />use as a valuable resource for future development, with graphic lines on the map <br />257 <br />indicating “no build” areas and potential paths and connections. Mr. Lamb further noted <br />258 <br /> <br />
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