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Regular Planning Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – Wednesday, August 03, 2011 <br />Page 11 <br />Steinwall opined that it appears to apply to buildings on a lot, not roadways, suggesting <br />505 <br />that it be further clarified. <br />506 <br />Steve Schwanke, with RLK <br />507 <br />Mr. Schwanke stated that he had worked extensively with Ms. Steinwall and concurred <br />508 <br />with her comments. As a consultant working with property owners and potential <br />509 <br />developers in the Twin Lakes Redevelopment Area for a number of years, Mr. Schwanke <br />510 <br />suggested further review of the proposed definition of “network trips.” With all due <br />511 <br />respect, Mr. Schwanke advised that, in his long-term professional experience, he had not <br />512 <br />seen that definition before, and questioned if it actually addressed the type of trips the <br />513 <br />City wanted to monitor; and suggested that City staff ask its traffic engineers for a more <br />514 <br />precise definition. <br />515 <br />With Mr. Schwanke’s concurrence, Member Boguszewski clarified that he was referring <br />516 <br />to Chapter 1022.02 (Definitions – line 64). <br />517 <br />Mr. Schwanke opined that, if he charged a member of his transportation staff to perform <br />518 <br />such a study as proscribed, he wouldn’t be sure of what the City’s intent was, whether <br />519 <br />interior trips, exterior trips or other variables. Ms. Schwanke recognized that the City had <br />520 <br />consulted with several very good traffic engineers on this to-date, but further opined that <br />521 <br />this definition was too broad and generic as currently stated; and suggested that the <br />522 <br />traffic consultants could provide a much more clear definition of the types of trip <br />523 <br />information being sought. <br />524 <br />Mr. Schwanke advised that these types of ordinances provide for traffic demand <br />525 <br />management systems or methods, and ways to reduce traffic; however, he noted that he <br />526 <br />didn’t see that referenced in the proposed ordinance language. Mr. Schwanke noted that <br />527 <br />the Cities of St. Paul and Minneapolis had ordinances that could be referenced for model <br />528 <br />language, and included provisions for credits as applicable, that may have been <br />529 <br />anticipated originally in the AUAR. <br />530 <br />With the concurrence of Mr. Schwanke, Member Boguszewski referenced Chapter <br />531 <br />1022.04, Sections C and D (lines 275 and 281), encouraging such credits. <br />532 <br />Tony Dorso, Owner of 10.29 acres at 2814 Cleveland Avenue <br />533 <br />Mr. Dorso thanked the Planning Commission for their diligence in this Twin Lakes matter; <br />534 <br />and opined that the Planning Commission was being asked to clean up a Plan that was <br />535 <br />not originally properly executed. With the understanding that developer fees were a <br />536 <br />normal undertaking, Mr. Dorso suggested that, in going back several years, a decision <br />537 <br />had been made to charge for improvements based on developer fees for utility <br />538 <br />connections, not for design and construction of streets throughout the entire Twin Lakes <br />539 <br />Redevelopment Area. <br />540 <br />In testimony at previous meetings, Mr. Dorso noted his reference for the Commission of <br />541 <br />staff’s statement that he would be assessed a developer fee of $2.5 million. Mr. Dorso <br />542 <br />noted that, in today’s market that would be the approximate value of the entire 10 plus <br />543 <br />acre parcel. Mr. Dorso opined that the process to-date had not been done correctly; <br />544 <br />further opining that the Commission was being asked to recommend for approval <br />545 <br />enforcement of an earlier decision to not do this on a normal assessment basis. Mr. <br />546 <br />Dorso noted law requiring that a property owner could not be assessed more than the <br />547 <br />improvements would add value to and benefit the property. Mr. Dorso alluded to the <br />548 <br />references of a similar attempt by the City of Rochester, MN by City Attorney Bartholdi, <br />549 <br />and subsequent litigation and loss of the case by the City. While understanding that there <br />550 <br />would always be some disagreement, Mr. Dorso opined that if the City was to enact this <br />551 <br />ordinance and use this approach, they would ensure that litigation would follow. <br />552 <br />With concurrence by City Attorney Bartholdi, Member Boguszewski clarified City Attorney <br />553 <br />Bartholdi’s previous statement that of the total original amount of money required for <br />554 <br />infrastructure completion in the Twin Lakes Redevelopment Area, the gap between that <br />555 <br />and what the City was paying was approximately $10 million. Member Boguszewski <br />556 <br />noted that this $10 million would be allocated among all parcel owners; and that would <br />557 <br /> <br />
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