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Regular Planning Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – Wednesday, August 03, 2011 <br />Page 13 <br />Member Boguszewski questioned what other municipalities had used for their <br />608 <br />methodology, if something other than trip allocations. <br />609 <br />Chair Boerigter opined that the allocation needed to be based on net trips and <br />610 <br />alternatives for construction of the roadway; and further opined that the allocation not be <br />611 <br />open to negotiation or unique negotiations; and opined that a consistent method was <br />612 <br />needed across the board. <br />613 <br />Member Boguszewski concurred with Chair Boerigter; however, he questioned whether <br />614 <br />other methodologies should be considered. <br />615 <br />City Planner Paschke advised that other methods were analyzed, but this appeared to be <br />616 <br />the best recommendation for use by the City of Roseville. <br />617 <br />City Attorney Bartholdi noted that this method considered the number of peak afternoon <br />618 <br />trips; with a network trip determined as the number of improvements that trip traveled <br />619 <br />through; with those peak network trips confined to one trip versus 3-5 trips. <br />620 <br />Chair Boerigter noted that statement referred back to the suggestion made by Mr. <br />621 <br />Schwanke for revising the definition of network trips. <br />622 <br />Mr. Rancone suggested that the language address infrastructure completed to-date or <br />623 <br />allocation, assuming that a particular use generated a certain number of trips. <br />624 <br />City Attorney Bartholdi advised that this would not be appropriate for the City, as it <br />625 <br />needed to address the entire development area for those parcels building later. <br />626 <br />Mr. Rancone noted his parcel’s direct access to I-35W at a freeway exit on Cleveland <br />627 <br />Avenue and onto County Road C and questioned what benefit Twin Lakes Parkway had <br />628 <br />for his parcel. Mr. Rancone advised that, as a developer, his firm was willing to pay its fair <br />629 <br />share to develop Twin Lakes and the city; however, he questioned the benefit of what <br />630 <br />had been completed to-date. While the Commission was indicating that there was no <br />631 <br />other alternative, Mr. Rancone opined that the City needed to decide if they wanted to put <br />632 <br />up more obstacles or wanted development. Mr. Rancone, noted that the area had not <br />633 <br />had any redevelopment occurring for almost two (2) decades, and questioned if the City <br />634 <br />wanted that situation to change or not. <br />635 <br />Mr. Rancone suggested that he may be in part somewhat responsible for the allocation <br />636 <br />study, and was willing to share costs for remediation. Mr. Rancone reviewed past <br />637 <br />possibilities in the area that hadn’t been realized for one reason or another, and his firm’s <br />638 <br />frustration in attempting to redevelop the area. Mr. Rancone suggested that that past <br />639 <br />development potential under a master developer had gotten into the mindset of the City <br />640 <br />Council, creating this proposed ordinance versus a typical assessment based on the <br />641 <br />actual benefit to a parcel. <br />642 <br />Mr. Rancone opined that existing City Code and ordinances in place provided enough <br />643 <br />regulation, in addition to requirements of other agencies and government entities, and <br />644 <br />would address green space, parking, storm water management; and provided many more <br />645 <br />controls for the City than were in place ten (10) years ago. However, Mr. Rancone noted <br />646 <br />that they also created more cost for development; and any additional dollars required to <br />647 <br />be expended created yet another hoop or another detriment for developing the area. Mr. <br />648 <br />Rancone opined that he at least sensed a more enlightened view by this Planning <br />649 <br />Commission to get something accomplished in the Twin Lakes Redevelopment Area. <br />650 <br />At the request of Member Wozniak, City Planner Paschke reviewed prepping this next <br />651 <br />step (ordinance) for the Commission earlier in the process, as elimination of the Planned <br />652 <br />Unit Development (PUD) process took place keying implementation of this step. Mr. <br />653 <br />Paschke clarified that, it was not a question of whether or not the City wanted to develop <br />654 <br />the Twin Lakes Redevelopment Area, but was a situation of seeking good development <br />655 <br />for that area and the broader community, opining that this was staff’s intent and direction <br />656 <br />received from the City Council to-date. Whether potential developers considered this yet <br />657 <br /> <br />
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