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Notes froll1 February 20, 2003 to discuss a firing range Attendees: Mayor Kysylyczyn, Councilll1ell1ber Kough, Conm1issioner Jan Wiessner, Jolly Mangine, Dave 11etusala, Ron Kolmer, An10ld Olsen, Chief Sletner, Lt. Mathwig, Carolyn Curti. TOIll Kough welconled everyone to nleeting. He said the City has questions about the use of a firing range if the City builds one. He mentioned a specific problen1 would be with adding an exten1al door that does not go through the police area. Tonl asked Jolly Mangine to explain where Ran1sey County is in the process with their firing range. Dave explained that in the early 1990s Ramsey County identified a need for a firing range. State Patrol, St. Paul Police and Washington County also said they were seeking a firing range. Went together to the Legislature and got $500,000. Adding to that $1 nlillion frOln Washington County and $2 nlillion froln Rmnsey County to build a 10 lane, 75 foot, state of the art firing range with moving targets and air cleaning systelTI. J oIly explained that Ranlsey County is in the process of developing an operating agreelnent with Washington County having access use of the facility for 35% of the tilTIe and RmTIsey County 65% of the time. Plan to open the range in Septelnber. They plan to nm the firing range like a business. For govenuTIent use, costs would be recouped, but not make a profit. For private sector, would have an altenlative rate - silTIilar to nlarket rate. Prices vary - one range charges $15 and a person can shoot as long as he/she wants - usually less than 2 hours. Very fev! private ranges exist - noise complaints from neighbors, many are outdoors so people don't \-vant to shoot there in cold, can't shoot at night. Costs must cover · Utilities · Preventive Maintenance · Capital Improvenlents · Supplies · Cleaning Estinlate that will cost around $60,000 a year. Plan is to have capacity use of 44,000 hours a year. 16 hours a day five days a week. 8 hours on Saturday - 10 lanes. Assunlption is that with night hours officers would not have to be paid overtinle. 16 x 5 = 80 8x1=8 88 hours x 10 lanes = 880 880 x 50 - 44,000 (allows time for repairs) Estinlate that there are 1,555 public safety officers (County, City, State Patrol) that could use the facility in the two counties. ASSUll1e ll1inilTIUlTI of 6-8 hours of training each year. That means require nlinilTIUlll of9,330 to 12,440 hours of usage per year.