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Member Lester sought clarification if the applicant repaired buses and semis, would they not be defined <br />98 <br />as “inoperable.” <br />99 <br />Chair Boerigter opined that not necessarily since this Conditional Use related only to outdoor storage and <br />100 <br />they have a building that could house inoperable vehicles. <br />101 <br />Mr. Paschke concurred, as long as the facility use was in compliance with City Code, with maintenance <br />102 <br />for fleet and worker’s vehicles allowed, since the Code didn’t preclude that, and actually supported it. <br />103 <br />However, Mr. Paschke clarified that Code defined what outdoor storage allowed and where it was <br />104 <br />located; what could and couldn’t be stored out side; and other parameters defining that use. Mr. Paschke <br />105 <br />advised that the use would be permitted and monitored as with any other use in Roseville; with staff <br />106 <br />monitoring situations to garner compliance. Mr. Paschke advised that a Conditional Use provided a higher <br />107 <br />level of authority for the City to revoke them if not kept in compliance. <br />108 <br />For extra clarification, Mr. Lloyd noted the difference in a bus in the yard that didn’t start and needed to be <br />109 <br />moved into the garage since it was temporarily not operational, but was intended to be brought back into <br />110 <br />service versus letting the grass grow around it and remaining inoperable, or abandoned or scavenged for <br />111 <br />parts. <br />112 <br />Member Cunningham questioned if there were time guidelines for how long inoperable vehicles could be <br />113 <br />kept on site. <br />114 <br />Mr. Lloyd advised that there was nothing currently in City Code to draw a clear distinction; and depending <br />115 <br />on circumstances, it was hard to define a rationale timeline. Mr. Lloyd advised that the Planning <br />116 <br />Commission could provide a recommended condition as part of their approval, but noted that he would be <br />117 <br />hard pressed to offer any guidance for such a timeframe. <br />118 <br />Mr. Paschke advised, from a staff perspective, that it was key for them to understand the issue and <br />119 <br />determine why a vehicle was sitting out for any length of time, and to work with the property owner on <br />120 <br />compliance. Mr. Paschke advised that it was typical for adjacent property owners to serve as staff’s eyes <br />121 <br />for them, in addition to staff observations. From a personal perspective, Mr. Paschke opined that it was <br />122 <br />not unreasonable for a vehicle to be outside for a week or so, especially if parts were not immediately <br />123 <br />available. <br />124 <br />At the request of Member Cunningham, Mr. Dufresne advised that they would typically work on the trucks <br />125 <br />in the garage. <br />126 <br />Public Comment <br />127 <br />attached hereto and made a part hereto, <br />As a Bench Handout, Mr. Lloyd provided correspondence with <br />128 <br />Ms. Terry Gilberstadt, Corporate Secretary and Manager of Horton Transportation, Horton Holding, Inc., <br />129 <br />2565 Walnut Street, Roseville, MN, as adjacent property owner and specific to this requested use. <br />130 <br />Ms. Terry Gilberstadt, Corporate Secretary and Manager, Horton Transportation, 2565 Walnut <br />131 <br />Street (adjacent to subject site) <br />132 <br />Ms. Gilberstadt referenced the correspondence as noted; and provided photos to display of the current <br />133 <br />property situation with weeds, inappropriate fencing, and other debris on the subject property. Ms. <br />134 <br />Gilberstadt noted that their property, Horton Holding, served as their corporate headquarters, serving <br />135 <br />national and international visitors, and that they kept their property maintained and aesthetically <br />136 <br />presentable accordingly. Ms. Gilberstadt expressed her appreciation of the new owner’s intent to improve <br />137 <br />the property; however, she expressed concern that current conditions may continue unless the <br />138 <br />Conditional Use could effectively address the majority of their concerns. At a minimum, Ms. Gilberstadt <br />139 <br />requested that the new owner mow the weeds; and if using the back portion of the parking lot, tar it to <br />140 <br />keep dust blowing into their office. Ms. Gilberstadt noted how aesthetically pleasing the adjacent golf <br />141 <br />course was to their office; even though they had been living with the current conditions at the subject <br />142 <br />parcel since they constructed their Horton headquarters in 2001. <br />143 <br />Member Boguszewski clarified that Ms. Gilberstadt and Horton Holding may be in support of this <br />144 <br />Conditional Use application, if the applicant was able to purchase the property and make obvious <br />145 <br />improvements. <br />146 <br /> <br />
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