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Regular Planning Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – Wednesday, March 7, 2012 <br />Page 3 <br />Mr. Paschke noted that, in general, the clause only comes into effect when the sign <br />97 <br />owner wants to upgrade or otherwise improve their signage and/or property, similar to <br />98 <br />current code; and triggering the City to condition approval on bringing their signage into <br />99 <br />compliance with today’s code. At that time, Mr. Paschke advised, any ongoing concerns <br />100 <br />or issues can then be addressed; however, compliance requirements are typically <br />101 <br />predicated on such a trigger. <br />102 <br />Chapter 1010.04 … Section D.2 (Pages 14- 15) <br />103 <br />Vice Chair Gisselquist noted the public rights-of-way language on this section and sought <br />104 <br />clarification of the types of signs being addressed. <br />105 <br />Mr. Paschke clarified that this was not directed to people holding signs; but those signs <br />106 <br />on poles, on rights-of-way or on boards (e.g. political signs; Parade of Homes signage, <br />107 <br />etc.). <br />108 <br />Section 3.0, Chapter 1010.02, General Provisions (pages 3-4) <br />109 <br />Member Lester sought clarification between fees and fines and the frequency they <br />110 <br />changed. <br />111 <br />Mr. Paschke advised that the fees stayed fairly static if they followed those of the past; <br />112 <br />and while staff could consult with the City Attorney for his advise and look at them again, <br />113 <br />as most City fees were generally adopted annually by resolution, but since they didn’t <br />114 <br />often change, he didn’t anticipate many fines being processed unless necessary to bring <br />115 <br />them back into compliance. <br />116 <br />Chapter 1010.04, Section B (page 14) <br />117 <br />Member Wozniak, in addressing removal of abandoned signs, questioned if that section <br />118 <br />was new. <br />119 <br />Mr. Paschke advised that, under current code, it was addressed through the City’s <br />120 <br />Nuisance Code, but was often cumbersome; and that by having things spelled out in the <br />121 <br />Sign Ordinance, the Nuisance Code could serve as a back stop for a clear and effective <br />122 <br />way to set up the sign ordinance, unless it was a life and/or safety issue. Mr. Paschke <br />123 <br />advised that, if that was the case, the City would remove abandoned signs and the <br />124 <br />property owner would be held responsible for those costs. In staff’s review of other <br />125 <br />municipal codes and in consultation with the City Attorney, Mr. Paschke advised that this <br />126 <br />was common practice. <br />127 <br />Member Lester, in that same section, noted appearance (e.g. faded, chipped, rusted <br />128 <br />signs) and questioned whether this wasn’t in the eye of the beholder and who would <br />129 <br />determine if a sign needed to be cleaned, renovated or replaced. <br />130 <br />Mr. Paschke advised that the City would make the determination, and while there was no <br />131 <br />ready definition, there was usually a clear distinction among those signs and others. Mr. <br />132 <br />Paschke noted that the sign owner always had the right to appeal any administrative <br />133 <br />decisions. <br />134 <br />Member Wozniak asked if this also addressed signs and content; with Mr. Paschke <br />135 <br />responding affirmatively, that it included the entire structure: the sign, the pole, and the <br />136 <br />advertisement itself. <br />137 <br />As an example, Member Wozniak noted the abandoned Geller’s Jewelry sign base in the <br />138 <br />middle of the parking lot near the Dairy Queen on Lexington Avenue (immediately north <br />139 <br />of Larpenteur Avenue). <br />140 <br />Mr. Paschke advised that the Lexington Plaza strip mall had a Master Sign Plan; and had <br />141 <br />other non-conforming signs (e.g. roof mall sign); and once they embark on remodeling or <br />142 <br />refurbishing the exterior of the mall, the signs will need to meet the master sign plan <br />143 <br />requirements. Mr. Paschke reiterated that non-conformities were typically allowed until <br />144 <br />you trigger compliance through an improvement. <br />145 <br /> <br />
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