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Regular City Council Meeting Monday,July 1, 2013 Page 13 plans coming before the body for the rest of staff as well; opining that this repre- sented a big commitment. Mayor Roe clarified that the pension was intended as a supplemental benefit; and when someone was retiring, this wasn't their primary source of income. Since this was his first look at this presentation, Mr. Breen advised that he could not respond to Councilmember McGehee's questions at this point without giving it further review. Mr. Breen noted that the original intent was in recognizing that a firefighter wage may not be high, but if a commitment was made for twenty(20) years, they would receive just compensation at the end of that commitment through the fund. Mayor Roe noted that the intent tonight was for informational purposes, with the actual request coming back to the City Council at a future meeting, allowing for staff's recommendations as conditioned if an increase was granted. As an ex offi- cio of the Relief Association Board, Mayor Roe opined that the conditioned rec- ommendations made sense from his perspective. Mayor Roe noted that as the City continued to transition into PERA, and eventually those currently in the Re- lief Association retired, another issue for Association Board membership would be how the Association wound down with a fixed number in the Association and no longer growing; what was best for the people in the Association, whether re- tired or retiring, and from a financial perspective for the City. Mr. Trudgeon noted that the Association needed a decision on the benefit increase from the City Council by the end of July; with staff intending to bring this for- ward as a formal recommendation for City Council adoption at the July 8, 2013 regular meeting in order to meet the timeline required by the Association. Mr. Breen concurred, noting that the Relief Association needed to report to the State of MN before the end of July. Councilmember McGehee requested that the upcoming meeting packet materials include the applicable State Statutes or regulations for defined benefit plans. Mr. Breen advised that they were available on the State Auditor's website, with Mr. Breen and Mr. Trudgeon offering to provide information on links. Councilmember McGehee advised that she wanted to know the average payout per month per person; and how Roseville compared with other communities. Mr. Breen advised that it varied, but averaged $30 per month based on the number of years of service; with Councilmember McGehee advising that she would do her own calculations based on that information.