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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, November 18, 2013 Page 11 Mr. Ziegler referenced the hierarchy of his family compared to this issue and the confusion of his children in determining the "boss" and who made decisions. Mr. Ziegler agreed that it would be confusing for him as well if this proposal went through, and his loss of freedom if the City Council became the boss versus him being able to choose who hauled his garbage. Having been a former resident of St. Paul for 5 years and neighbors having issues with too many trash haulers in their immediate neighborhood, Mr. Ziegler noted that they were able to handle it and come to a compromise among themselves in choosing one hauler and reduc- ing traffic in their alley. Mr. Ziegler advised that this was simply through his knocking on doors seeking consensus; and opined that people could work together in Roseville as well to reduce haulers in their neighborhood. However, Mr. Zieg- ler opined that citizens didn't need a committee or the City Council to do so. Roger Toogood, 601 Terrace Courte As a Roseville resident for 59 years, Mr. Toogood advised that he had experi- enced the services of various trash haulers. As the Past President of the Roseville Citizen's League Board, Mr. Toogood advised that he had been intimately in- volved in these discussions over the last five (5) years and had spent considerable time studying the issue; but noted that often much of the verifiable information got thrown out. Mr. Toogood expressed his appreciation that some of his free- doms could be limited to enhance his quality of life (e.g. speed limits, city codes, etc.). In the meeting held in September by the League, Mr. Toogood noted that speakers were available from Maplewood addressing their new organized trash collection system and reporting on the significant savings obtained by this system for residents, averaging a cost reduction of 50%. Mr. Toogood suggested those facts be double-checked for verification. Mr. Toogood displayed his own informal survey of his neighbors and their costs, providing interesting realities, and his amazement that many didn't even know those costs without looking up their records. Mr. Toogood provided comparisons from his survey on costs from $17.63 to $32.00 and based on types and sizes of containers. Mr. Toogood noted that, as a townhome resident, and when this start- ed his service as the Vice President of the Owasso Hollow Town Home Associa- tion Board, when reviewing their Association budget, he found the cost for trash collection to be $13.75 per home owners. In questioning such a low rate, Mr. Toogood advised that he found that the rate was negotiated among various town home associations corporately to achieve this low rate. Mr. Toogood spoke in support of organized waste collection to reduce wear on streets, reduce trucks in neighborhoods; and encouraged the City Council to take the leadership in this for Roseville and follow the City of Maplewood along with other communities who have also researched this issue. Mr. Toogood recognized that it would not be easy for the entire community to accept it, but was a positive from a cost and service perspective.