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• The road remains under Ramsey County's jurisdiction west of Cleveland <br /> Avenue. <br /> • The speed limit is currently posted at 40 mph. <br /> • After the October 2013 PWETC meeting, the City performed a speed study, <br /> with the 85th percentile speed indicating a speed of 46.1 mph at the east end <br /> and 36.2 mph at the west end. <br /> • The existing pavement width is 26'. <br /> • It is estimated that the existing pavement life remaining is 8-10 years. <br /> • Ramsey County has a desire to turn back this road to the City's jurisdiction, <br /> since it no longer serves its original function, with its closure as a connection <br /> to Highway 280 following the I-35W bridge collapse. <br /> • City and County staff continue to negotiate the turn back agreement terms, <br /> with the City concerned with the condition of the roadway and any cost- <br /> sharing that can be achieved under their new cost participation policy. <br /> Mr. Schwartz reviewed some preliminary pedestrian facility options and <br /> challenges that had been provided to the City Council for their consideration last <br /> night. Those included: <br /> • The immediate need and short-term solution would be to provide a shoulder <br /> trail or sidewalk along County Road B. <br /> • There are a number of obstacles to create a permanent separate facility that <br /> affect feasibility, including but not limited to right-of-way, topography, and <br /> drainage issues. <br /> • The most cost-effective, short-term solution would be to widen the shoulder <br /> facility with a 6' attached pedestrian facility with a 2.5' buffer between the <br /> roadway and path. <br /> • The cost of such a short-term solution was estimated by Mr. Schwartz at under <br /> $120,000, excluding the cost of necessary storm water mitigation. <br /> Mr. Schwartz advised that staff had suggested to the City Council the option of <br /> widening the shoulder from Cleveland to Fulham, then widening an additional <br /> segment from Fulham to the private apartment driveway at the west end. Mr. <br /> Schwartz reviewed some of the initial concerns expressed by the City Council, <br /> including whether to further extend the pathway to the apartment building on <br /> public right-of-way; whether this would provide the best and most cost-effective <br /> interim solution; and difficulties of undertaking this unbudgeted item outside of a <br /> reconstruction project that would spread the impact of additional width and <br /> address stormwater mitigation, and small wetlands adjacent to the golf course and <br /> area topography issues. <br /> Mr. Schwartz advised that the City Council had not taken any action at their <br /> meeting last night, other than directing staff to meet with the neighborhood, with <br /> staff anticipating such a meeting in early January to hear additional feedback, <br /> providing notice by direct mail to the neighbors. Mr. Schwartz noted that the City <br /> Council was also concerned with the lack of a physical barrier between the <br /> roadway and interim pedestrian facility, while recognizing the difficulty in <br /> Page 6 of 18 <br />
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