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<br />CITY CENTER TASK FORCE NOTES <br />November 19, 1998 <br /> <br />1. Call to Order: November 19,1998,6:30 p.m. <br /> <br />2. Present: Chair Keith Wietecki, Patricia Johnson, Peggy Egli, Donald Anderson, <br />Richard Bates, Perrie Heitfer, Thomas Johnson, Joseph Smith, Scott <br />Bergs, Ann Hermes, Jan Vanderwall <br /> <br />Council presentBarb Mastell <br /> <br />Others present Kim Way, Dennis Welsch, Mike Palermo, Bob Bierscheid, Chief Paul <br />Wood, Chief Dick Forletti <br /> <br />3. Chair Keith Wietecki reviewed past activities from Task Force meetings and the <br />November 7th City Tour. He asked that the Task Force consider a definition of <br />.community center". Patricia Johnson noted the difference between .community center" <br />(building) vs, .city center" (place). It is an area or place in the community, not a building. <br />The charge is to pull Roseville together - put components together that people of the <br />community agree should be placed together. An "activity center" is a group of activities at <br />a location. A community center is not the geographic center of the community. <br /> <br />4. Kim Way asked for likes and dislikes of the community center tour, <br /> <br />a. Brooklyn Park. All civic campus (a site); nationals guard armory, no sidewalks, <br />pedestrian pathways, add-on buildings, busy, little planning, a number of <br />activities, senior center, recreation center, activity rooms, skate center, not <br />aesthetically pleasing - dark, long hallways, library, city maintenance garage. No <br />sense of entry or door; federal, state, county, city, school district, tank display out <br />front; shooting center. <br /> <br />b. Maple Grove. Hard to tell jf this was going to work today, but will take 20 years <br />to complete; former gravel pit site that was being redeveloped by developer. City <br />takes "back seat" to master plan; created partnerships with builders/retailers. <br />Partnership could be used in Roseville, just differently; nice meeting spaces, <br />good indoor/outdoor connection to lake; teen and senior center heavily used with <br />a theatre; nice walk-through pattern; lots of good space; revenue from parties; <br />feeling of spaciousness; scattered group seating; space was gracious and sunny. <br /> <br />c. Plymouth. Where was city hall? Was the community building the city center; <br />parking problems; senior building not on site and not well planned; city, school <br />Life-Time partnership; no small child admittance; need to take advantage of <br />shared parking; be careful of public/private partnerships - get even treatment; <br />seniors wanted separated site from activity, retail (Cub), movie theatre, fast food <br />in area; located near major thoroughfares; private development activity wants <br />traffic and visibility. <br /> <br />d. Minnetonka. Civic center only; seniors and city hal1 together; hockey and <br />"Marsh" fitness site; no walking access to neighborhood; isolated; water and <br />decking were beautiful; dog training facility; site isolation. <br /> <br />e. Chaska. Has traditional city center-and a community center adjacent to schools <br />, - not near downtown; must drive to the facility; no community around it; <br />continuous add-on facility. Poor parking; On a mid-Saturday it was hardly used. <br />Theatre-auditorium art display center. Trying to build adjacent to neighborhood. <br /> <br />Page 1 of 6 <br />