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Regular Planning CommissionMeeting <br />Minutes –Wednesday, January 6, 2016 <br />Page 17 <br />used for deliveries would have a side enough space to be able to turn off the road onto <br />823 <br />the site. <br />824 <br />Mr. DeLong also expressed his concerns related to water drainage, noting the <br />825 <br />considerable funds spent at Midland Grove to fix their drainage problems, and asked that <br />826 <br />planners seriously look at that aspect, especially with the proposed drainage plane and <br />827 <br />plans for underground parking, given that Midland Grove experienced flooded <br />828 <br />basements. <br />829 <br />Member Cunningham asked staff to address the road width and access for street plows, <br />830 <br />semi tractor-trailers, or vans, suggesting that this was probably the reason for “No <br />831 <br />Parking” designation on both sides to facilitate that. <br />832 <br />Mr. Paschke responded that the issue will be with traffic volumes and at what point that <br />833 <br />became problematic for the intersection. However, Mr. Paschke noted that the current <br />834 <br />design capacity of that part of the road is already much higher than anyone was probably <br />835 <br />aware of, but it may be an issue to be addressed with a traffic study. <br />836 <br />Specific to stormwater management and drainage problems experienced with Midland <br />837 <br />Grove Condominiums, Mr. Paschke advised that today’s regulations had changed <br />838 <br />dramatically since the existing single-family homes and Midland Grove Condominiums <br />839 <br />had been constructed. Mr. Paschke noted that today’s standards were very high and the <br />840 <br />site would now be required to meet many requirements before any runoff can leave the <br />841 <br />sites. While staff has yet to review those stormwater plans in detail due to the concept <br />842 <br />nature of the proposal at this point and not part of tonight’s requested action, Mr. <br />843 <br />Paschke advised that those requirements would become part of the approval process of <br />844 <br />any development, and anticipated the developers had already worked a number of those <br />845 <br />considerations into their design even at this point. Mr. Paschke noted that heightened <br />846 <br />stormwater management issues were here to stay, and any development would need to <br />847 <br />meet not only city requirements, but also those of the applicable watershed district; and if <br />848 <br />not met, there would be no permit issued for development. Mr. Paschke noted that one <br />849 <br />of those requirements is that stormwater runoff leaving the site had to remain as it was <br />850 <br />today or prove less, and had to be controlled before leaving the site. <br />851 <br />Rick Poeschl, 2220 Midland Grove Road, #111 <br />852 <br />Mr. Poeschl had provided his concerns via written comment, included in the meeting <br />853 <br />packet materials. Mr. Poeschl reiterated that Midland Grovehad a water problem, and <br />854 <br />when it rained hard there was water in their garages and in the tunnel connecting them, <br />855 <br />as well as at the end of Midland Grove met their property. Mr. Poeschl questioned if this <br />856 <br />project would make that situation worse. <br />857 <br />P. Carrington Ashton, 2200 Midland Grove Road <br />858 <br />Mr. Ashton concurred with concerns about drainage, and opined that there would <br />859 <br />definitely be a serious problem with stormwater drainage and the additional traffic on the <br />860 <br />roadway. Given the amount of drainage and flooding issues with Midland Grove, Mr. <br />861 <br />Ashton questioned why drainage wasn’t looked into before Midland Grove was built. <br />862 <br />Mr. Paschke referenced his previous comments, and noted that regulations had changed <br />863 <br />since the 1960’s and construction of Midland Grove. Mr. Paschke stated that the <br />864 <br />development met standards in place at that time, but since then and during his 17 years <br />865 <br />tenure in the City’s Planning Department, stormwater management standards had <br />866 <br />changed at least 12 times. Mr. Paschke noted that those standards had been changed to <br />867 <br />protect adjacent properties as well as the development site itself to avoid putting any <br />868 <br />additional pressure on existing infrastructure and those adjacent properties. <br />869 <br />Fred Christiansen,2200 Midland Grove Road <br />870 <br />As a retired architectbeing familiar with buildings, design and site development, Mr. <br />871 <br />Christiansen opined that a lot of mistakes had been made when Midland Grove was <br />872 <br />constructed. Mr. Christiansen further opined that part of that was the two architects who <br />873 <br />did the preliminary plan but then hadn’t been paid, ending up with the facility built without <br />874 <br />any architectural expertise or oversight. <br />875 <br /> <br />