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Regular Planning Commission Meeting Minutes – Wednesday, March 2, 2016 Page 21 Daire asked if squatters’ rights didn’t apply even with the fence installation well south of 1014 the property line. 1015 Mr. Crain opined that, with all due respect, he didn’t think that was possible, at least not 1016 defined as adverse, but could be with permission; and further opined that such a 1017 determination as not within the scope of this land use application. Specific to squatters’ 1018 rights, again, Mr. Crain responded that while these questions may prove interesting, they 1019 didn’t directly relate to the purpose of the condition from his understanding, and the 1020 mitigation of noise and headlights. While there may be a safety issue to be addressed, 1021 Mr. Crain suggested that could be resolved through the city’s permitting process, since 1022 neither the Vogels or residents to the north could install a fence without a permit. 1023 Member Bull As a newer member of the Planning Commission, admitted that he didn’t 1024 fully understand the nature of the Vogel Mechanical business, including the number of 1025 employees, number of vehicles coming and going, and number and type of service trucks 1026 at the subject property or coming to the site from their respective work sites or vendor 1027 deliveries. 1028 Ms. Vogel explained that their firm basically had field workers who take their company 1029 vehicles home at night and travel from their home directly to their work site. Ms. Vogel 1030 advised that their firm had a one-tone delivery truck, but that would be the extent of that 1031 type of vehicle on site. During normal hours of operation at this time, Ms. Vogel advised 1032 that they may have six cars or pick-up trucks owned and driven by their office employees 1033 and located in the front parking lot. Ms. Vogel further advised that many weeks they didn’t 1034 receive any deliveries, while other weeks they may have up to five in a row, but not on an 1035 everyday basis. Ms. Vogel advised that their firm held quarterly meetings, where an 1036 average of twenty employees would meet at the office. 1037 Member Bull asked where the Vogels were moving their production from to this locale, 1038 and how many employees they currently had doing that work. 1039 Ms. Vogel responded that they had one employee working out of their Stillwater location. 1040 Chair Boguszewski asked for a description of what was being produced and the actual 1041 physical activity the firm wanted to begin at this location. As indicated via the applicant’s 1042 CU application narrative dated February 5, 2016 (Attachment D), Chair Boguszewski 1043 asked if the production would involve battery-operated tools, benders and electric or 1044 hydraulic sheers that would be quieter than typical older mechanical tools; and whether 1045 that work would only be done on a specialty need of in case of an emergency or when a 1046 customer was down and needed immediate turnaround. Otherwise, as indicated, Chair 1047 Boguszewski noted that larger jobs are subcontracted out to another firm and typically a 1048 3-4 day lag occurs before that product is delivered directly to the job site. 1049 Mr. Vogel explained that the work would consist of assembling of specialty parts. 1050 Ms. Vogel noted, as an example, recently one of their customers needed a booth built as 1051 part of their production, and Vogel employees spent considerable time drawing out the 1052 specifications for this one-of-a-kind piece of equipment to be made for the customer. 1053 Member Cunningham noted that the previous IU stated the Vogel’s intent to move their 1054 entire facility to Roseville, but they had not yet done so and asked why not. 1055 Mr. Crain responded that it was because of the fence issue and inability to complete that 1056 Condition of the IU. 1057 Mr. Vogel further responded that, since the IU was only for a term of five years and with 1058 no guarantees for extension, given the reality that moving their business completely and 1059 rewiring the Roseville building may cost up to $100,000 since it wasn’t currently set up 1060 accordingly, their family had decided to hold off with the full move in case the IU was not 1061 extended after that five year period. 1062 Ms. Vogel noted that the 5 year IU term was now down to 3 years, and thus was creating 1063 the additional financing problems. Given possible uses outlined in the city’s table of uses 1064