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Regular Planning Commission Meeting Minutes – Wednesday, March 2, 2016 Page 26 Ms. Erickson responded that the neighbors had originally asked for an 8’ board on board 1274 fence on the northern edge of the Vogel property as close as possible to the original 1275 fence location in place for over thirty years. Ms. Erickson stated that the neighbors would 1276 prefer that the Vogels install the fence as close to the property line as possible to there 1277 was no worry about maintaining either side. 1278 Member Murphy asked the reason for their request of an 8’ versus 6’5” fence height. 1279 Ms. Erickson responded that it matched the fence already there to the east of the 1280 property between residents and businesses. 1281 Member Murphy asked if Ms. Erickson had any concern with lights from the Vogel 1282 parking areas. 1283 Ms. Erickson stated that the neighbors had never asked about lights, only that there be 1284 some demarcation between residential and commercial properties. 1285 Member Murphy asked if Ms. Erickson had concerns if the fence was not on the 1286 property line, and if further back, if there were concerns with its location at 1’, 1 yard or 1” 1287 form the property line. 1288 Ms. Erickson responded that, per the Vogel survey, the fence was 3” from the property 1289 line and the neighbors didn’t object. However, Ms. Erickson noted that if the fence was 1290 located 1’ or 10’ from the property line, it would require two fences installed in the same 1291 area; and while willing to do so in order to protect their properties, she questioned what 1292 effect that would have overall. 1293 Lisa McCormick, Wheeler Street 1294 As a long-term resident of the area, and not immediately abutting the Vogel property, Ms. 1295 McCormick stated that she did live in close proximity and also happened to be an 1296 attorney working in the areas of real estate and land use. However, Ms. McCormick 1297 clarified that she was not speaking or functioning here tonight in that capacity, and only 1298 mentioned it based on her particular skill set as a preface to her comments. 1299 Ms. McCormick displayed Attachment B for reference from tonight’s agenda materials 1300 related to this item; and addressed questions since last speaking about the fence. 1301 Ms. McCormick referenced both Xcel Energy and CenturyLink representatives indicating 1302 there was no issue in replacing the fence in its prior location, which was in reality 1303 somewhat south of the actual property line. As for footings, Ms. McCormick stated that 1304 she had documentation she would leave with the Commission tonight from Midwest 1305 Fence showing their specifications for an 8’ fence requiring a 12” footing. 1306 Ms. McCormick referenced and expression for the comments made by a previous 1307 speaker differentiating “quantitative” and “qualitative” considerations. In line with that, Ms. 1308 McCormick stated that at no time had there been any indication of the location of the 1309 actual cable meandering; and it was typical for requirements to indicate hand digging 1310 near cable. Ms. McCormick advised that both Midwest Fence and CenturyLink had 1311 described the process for “potholing” in clay-based soils; and recognized that due to the 1312 nature of that soil, the cable could have shifted over time and the only way to know was 1313 through hand digging. 1314 Ms. McCormick referenced and read the requirements from CenturyLink and description 1315 of installation footings, which could be adjusted as needs determined. 1316 Ms. McCormick noted that three trees had already been removed, and 2-3 others could 1317 probably need to be removed in the near future due to similar situations. Whether or not a 1318 footing goes through a tree root, if the cable comes into play, Ms. McCormick reviewed 1319 her understanding that sheathing could be put in to move the cable out of the way, and 1320 therefore a tree root didn’t preclude a fence footing being installed. 1321 Ms. McCormick noted that while neighbors could install their own fences, indications 1322 show the cable 2’ into their properties requiring all of their fence posts to be hand dug, 1323