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Special Planning Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – Wednesday, September 17, 2015 <br />Page 12 <br />Mr. Lloyd advised that it didn’t vary; noting that they are listed in the Table of Uses today as per <br />538 <br />City Council discussion, and even though their breakdown had been discussed, in the revised <br />539 <br />table they need not differ. Specific to manufactured home park designations coming out of those <br />540 <br />other districts, Mr. Lloyd noted that did require a more formalized land use. <br />541 <br />Consensus of the Commission was to combine uses in the table as discussed. <br />542 <br />One-family Attached (duplex or twin home) AND One-family attached (town home or row house) <br />543 <br />At the request of Member Cunningham, Mr. Lloyd clarified that twin home always had 2 units; <br />544 <br />while there were some parallels in 3 or more units, but instead of stacked there were various <br />545 <br />iterations possible; with a duplex similar to a single-family home and related to the LDR concept. <br />546 <br />Based on previous discussions tonight, Member Cunningham questioned if the will of the <br />547 <br />neighborhood was to desire more homes but clean-up of a site wasn’t feasible, if someone <br />548 <br />wanted to build a one-story duplex of single-family home, why would that be a bad thing. <br />549 <br />Discussion ensued regarding the definition of and number of construction variables for units. <br />550 <br />Member Murphy refocused discussion on the location of this CMU designated area, noting it was <br />551 <br />a transition area and proposed residential uses would run into issues with tiers and height <br />552 <br />restrictions, and while residential uses may sound good on the surface, he opined that he wasn’t <br />553 <br />sure if anything favorable would be accomplished for smaller family structures or units in the long- <br />554 <br />term based on the other permitted uses in this CMU designation. <br />555 <br />Chair Boguszewski concurred, referencing the bigger picture and intent for this CMU area, not as <br />556 <br />a primary residential development as stated by Member Murphy, but potentially incorporating <br />557 <br />such a use within the broader intent for the CMU and meeting the goals of the comprehensive <br />558 <br />plan for the Twin Lakes Redevelopment Area. However, if that is the case, Chair Boguszewski <br />559 <br />asked why any of these potential uses by their very definitions are P in the CMU area, opining <br />560 <br />that to him they seemed to be reluctantly hanging on to P such a residential use when the whole <br />561 <br />point was not to do so. <br />562 <br />Mr. Bilotta clarified that, in a number of mixed use projects, it wasn’t unusual to have housing as a <br />563 <br />component of a development, and actually allowing a transition for that use into an office/retail <br />564 <br />use that works well. <br />565 <br />As an example, Chair Boguszewski questioned if an example would be that of the <br />566 <br />Grand/Excelsior Development in the City of St. Louis Park with mixed use development of <br />567 <br />brownstones in a walkable neighborhood, or another example near the urban Guthrie Theater <br />568 <br />Redevelopment Area. <br />569 <br />Mr. Bilotta agreed those were both good examples and their intent was similar to providing a <br />570 <br />buffer to the CMU. <br />571 <br />Planning Commissioners decided they would retain these uses as currently shown on the Table <br />572 <br />of Uses. <br />573 <br />One-family Detached <br />574 <br />Chair Boguszewski admitted he was having difficulty considering this use left in at all. <br />575 <br />Mr. Bilotta clarified that the use came out of City Council discussions in their consideration that if <br />576 <br />someone wanted to clean-up the property in an area overlooking Langton Lake Park in one viable <br />577 <br />corner and within that 100’ lower height area, it may not be a bad idea; and similar to CMU-1 <br />578 <br />extended down, that use had remained as noted. While admitting this use would be somewhat <br />579 <br />different than the original intent for CMU, Mr. Bilotta stated that was their rationale in allowing a <br />580 <br />one-family detached home use only in that specific area. <br />581 <br />Chair Boguszewski admitted it would only be possible on the western side of Langton Lake and <br />582 <br />represented one of the last remaining properties in Roseville allowing a view of the water; which <br />583 <br />he further admitted could be attractive. Whether relevant or not, with it being a potential use and <br />584 <br />conditioned as noted, Chair Boguszewski offered his support of that use as shown on the Table. <br />585 <br />Member Murphy, while opining it seemed like tortured rationale, agreed that he could see the <br />586 <br />potential. <br />587 <br /> <br />