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Regular City Council Meeting Monday,January 30,2017 Page 9 ees and maintenance), Ms. Hansen noted that he could receive no compensation or control over the source or inventory of non-profits selling on his premises. Ms. Hansen questioned the viability of that business plan model, without her benefit of having heard from the owner of the Har Mar Pet Shop and ramifications to his business. Gary Papineau, Owner of Har Mar Pet Shop Mr. Papineau opined that variety was a good thing for Roseville; and further opined that licensing would serve to add to that diversity. Mr. Papineau noted that he had attended several of these meetings where animal rights groups had made comments about puppy mills and him and his business specifically. Mr. Papineau stated that he was proud of his store and the animals he sold there. While hearing from opponents at these meetings, Mr. Papineau noted that his reg- ular, satisfied customers weren't present stating that they were unhappy with their pet purchase. Mr. Papineau opined that licensing would work better than a ban. Ann Olson,Executive Director,Animal Folks MN, St. Paul, MN Ms. Olson thanked the city for drafting this ordinance, opining that it addressed their concerns as brought forward previously. As far as specifics with the pro- posed ordinance, Ms. Olson stated that they agreed with the 180 day effective date; with other minor points for discussion off line but not impacted by state law. Ms. Olson noted that, based on their experience in the industry, animals obtained from mass breeding facilities without any knowledge of their genetic conditions, was at the core of rationale in not obtaining animals there. As mentioned by her at the last meeting, Ms. Olson noted considerable data was available and records on large breeders in MN and IA and volunteered to share that information with the city to further support their position. Ms. Olson advised that those records would document the purchase of dogs and puppies by the Roseville pet store in question from those large breeders. Specific to criminal or administrative offenses, Ms. Olson asked that any penalty or fee should be high enough to serve as a true deterrent and relative to the sales price of animals. Ms. Olson spoke in support of the city continuing with the ordinance revisions; opining it was an efficient and economical way to address the issues. Kathy Maken,Animal Humane Society Ms. Maken agreed with the comments of Ms. Olson, and draft ordinance as origi- nally introduced, with revision to 180 days for an effective date. Ms. Maken agreed this would address the problem being faced with pet stores. Ms. Maken also offered additional information or clarification on how their shelters were run and pet licensing.