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would check on this (per SP, JV questions). DA and KL disagreed whether boat traffic could impede riparian access. Mechanical or hand clearing of weeds can be done if < 2500 ft2, including a<15'-wide boat channel, with notificatian of the GLWMD (and city?). Chemical treatment requires a permit (DA,MC). Is there a right not to have one's shoreline eroded? Unclear. DNR regulations specify type and dimensions of anti-erosion materials and beach sand blankets. Da shoreline owners have the right to put out docks, rafts, or buoys in order to discourage boat tra�c near their shore ar to indicate the extent of the no-wake buf� f"er zone? No permit is required for structures e�ended from shore, but rafts need permits. Structures that are safety hazards are not perniitted; long docks in shallow water may be reasonable. General discussion wzth Mr. Converse followed -- The proposed Shoreview ordinance is adequately and appropriately drafted, but MC had no personal opinion about it. The current ordinance is unclear, and some modern-day problems are not addressed (MC). Wakes can travel long distances on calm days (DA) but are subject to dissipation (JG). We can change regulations subject to DNR's standards (JG, 6110.3700). If a JPA is reached that the DNR does not appr�ve in its entirety, it is likely (MC's words) that the DNR could accept only part, and require the cities to amend their ordinances accordingly. We could put an "escape clause" into tiie JPA that clearly allows the DNR to do this. Most JPA's are approved by the DNR; they commonly defer to cities. Mr. Converse accepted the LOTF's thanks and lefl at 8:41 PM. 3 Detertnine individuals to invite to 11/1 / 6 meeting on Regulatorv Enforcement and Safet� Not done, see #4. 4 Determine auestions to be provided to�artici�ants in the 11/13/96 rneetin� Due to the late hour and because environmental questions were not yet developed and most environmental guests were invited for 11/13, it was decided to spend the 10/30 meeting developing questions for both the environmental panel (11i13) and questions plus guests for the regulatory - safety paiiel (likely 12/4). GW felt there was a need to organize and prioritize questions. JG urged others to come prepared. Jeff Roessler (GLWMD) will he re-invited for 11/13 by Egli. Other guests on 11/13 will be: Tom Peterson (Ramsey County Soil and Water Conservation District), Terry Noonan (Ramsey coiinty limnologist), and Ed Musielewicz (National Resaurces Conservation Service). These three felt they could not answer questions specifically about Lake Owasso (DA). Tom Landwehr (Shoreview city council) sees himself as more of a facilitator than an expert, and will iiot attend. No one frotri DNR is slated to attend (but s�e JG handout on fisheries, Uelow). Don Meyer (environmental) could not attend on 10/30 and will be invited for 11/13 or another time by Wood. Otherwise, Wood will ask hitn if he would be willing to respond in writing to our questions. Lt. Bergeron and/or Dep. Biehn of the Ramsey county sheriff s water patrol would be likely guests on 12/4 (Prak to invite) It would be good to get someane from the DNR who oversees regulations (GW); unclear who will invite them (DNR phone = 296-3336). All the invited guests who are public officials will require an official 'uivitation froin Steve North and the city.