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Ethics Commission Meeting Minutes <br />Wednesday, October 11, 2017 <br />Page 3 <br /> <br />1 that are used each year are what makes the training live. She agreed that information <br />2 should be included regarding the 2018 elections along with examples to determine what <br />3 may or may not be appropriate. <br />4 <br />5 City Attorney Gaughan agreed it is appropriate to tie in the 2018 election year. Over the <br />6 past couple of years, part of the presentation has included a complaint from a previous <br />7 election cycle regarding public use of resources. <br />8 <br />9 Mr. Trudgeon commented he appreciates when Mr. Gaughan provides scenarios that lead <br />10 to differing opinions since it encourages group learning. It also helps people to <br />11 understand the nuances and that the issue may not be as clear cut as they thought. He also <br />12 suggested information regarding open meeting laws, communication and emails be <br />13 included. If people are not aware of the laws, it could lead to some ethical challenges. <br />14 <br />15 s and agrees with the open meeting laws, but <br />16 it would be helpful for others who are not familiar with them to learn more about them. <br />17 <br />18 Chair Cihacek inquired if this was included as part of the training for new <br />19 Commissioners. <br />20 <br />21 Mr. Trudgeon confirmed it was included and stated the discussion would be a good <br />22 refresher for others. <br />23 <br />24 Chair Cihacek suggested they touch on it, but not spend a lot of time on it since it is <br />25 covered in the training for new Commissioners. <br />26 <br />27 Member Bull commented the scope of their ethics is very narrow in the broad world of <br />28 ethics. There could be a violation of the open meeting law where there is no intention of <br />29 personal gain, but it is still very wrong. If they teach it as ethics, they may not get the full <br />30 explanation on what the open meeting law is really about and why it is important. He <br />31 suggested they keep it as a separate option for training. <br />32 <br />33 <br />34 general ethics and it may be confusing to people if they include open meeting laws with <br />35 ethical training. <br />36 <br />37 Member Bull commented the length of the program in past years has been good. They <br />38 want to keep an audience engaged, and anything they can do to encourage conversation <br />39 among the participants is good. He supports what has been done in the past and would <br />40 like to see more of it. <br />41 <br />42 Mr. Gaughan stated he always tries to touch on both what the ethics code is and is not. <br />43 Several years ago, he did a presentation on open meeting law to all City Commissions, <br />44 and due to Commissioner turnover, it may helpful to do it again. <br />45 <br /> <br />